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Old 07-12-2008, 06:42 PM   #1
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Front License Plate Bracket

Just posting this in response to the new frontal shots we got; I was always against having a front license plate on my car and the pix we got just reaffirmed my stance. I did a search online for states that don't require front plates so I can possibly get a car w/o holes in the front fascia for that damed bracket and ran across this. Hope it's helpful to you somebody here... looks like I'll be flying out to AZ and taking a road trip home for mine!


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Old 07-12-2008, 07:01 PM   #2
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Old 07-12-2008, 07:06 PM   #3
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Well I guess I can hope to get stationed back in North Carolina again between now and when I plan on getting my Camaro. That is where mine was originally purchased, but as you can see in my signature, my car is registered in Vermont which does require the Front plate. When I bought the car, the bracket was in the trunk, at first I didn't have the bracket on the car after registering it, but got stopped and a cop wrote me a ticket, but was informed that the fine would be waived if I took the car to the court house and showed the bracket installed with the plate on it. Didn't want to pay the fine, so installed the bracket.

Could always buy the car in NC again or any other front plateless state and since I don't drive to VT that often not put the front plate on since most other state law enforcement agencies aren't gonna push for the front plate since I am not in VT more than likely.
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Old 07-12-2008, 08:21 PM   #4
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It wouldn't be nearly as bad if they would design it in a way you didn't need to drill holes in your bumper.
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Old 07-12-2008, 08:52 PM   #5
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now is it FOR SURE that the states that dont require it wont have the plates in front?
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:00 PM   #6
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Ya know....if your state requires a front plate, (like this one), I think it might be a good idea to suggest to your state's legislature to make it law to only run a rear plate. WHY? Well, if you cut the plate requirement in HALF, then the state saves 50% on plate costs! Oh, wait...that would make too much sense.....
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:09 PM   #7
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I believe the cost is the plates was factored into the cost for registration of your veicle.
I don't mind both of them, it makes it easier to catch criminals.
It's only a 25$ fine in California anyways, if it's that important to you just drive without one.
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:14 PM   #8
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I hate stupid Massachusetts, if you've lived here long enough to have the old green plate you don't have to run a front plate. When I buy my car I am going to ask them to just zip tie the plate to the grill to get me through inspection. Then yank the plate off and test my luck.
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:26 PM   #9
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My front bracket on my '01 "broke off" and i just put the plate in the front window. not sure what the exact law is but shouldn't that be enough to satisfy the cops?
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:50 PM   #10
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yeah, I live in ohio so I have to have both (one of the reasons I ADORE the C5 'Vette) but after seeing the picture of the Camaro with the bracket on the front, I don't think it looks bad.
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Old 07-12-2008, 10:29 PM   #11
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but after seeing the picture of the Camaro with the bracket on the front, I don't think it looks bad.
I wouldn't say it looks bad either... just not as good!
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Old 07-12-2008, 10:30 PM   #12
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Yea I have been pulled over in Tx. cause I dont use a front plate...lol Stupid sh!t
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I don't care lol...no front plate for me.
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Old 07-12-2008, 11:20 PM   #14
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actually i read somewhere that in some areas that require 2 plates if your car was not designed to have a front plate and you require to drill holes to mount a factory plate bracket to mount it you are exempt. you just have to keep the front plate in the car some where. i know the pontiac solstice roadster has a plate bracket that is designed to attach to the 'grilles' in the facia using the existing holes in the 'honeycomb' texture area. my hobby shop guy has a regular solstice roadster and his front plate looks good, no need to drill holes at all!

I am sure that GM will have a bracket that will attach to the 'grille' intake between the fog/driving lights that will be able to be installed with no drilling and can be removed if you go to a area that DOES require 2 plates. as for california being a 2 state plate i was there for 2 weeks and almost ALL cars there only had them on the back .
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Old 07-12-2008, 11:38 PM   #15
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Old 07-13-2008, 12:22 AM   #16
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My front bracket on my '01 "broke off" and i just put the plate in the front window. not sure what the exact law is but shouldn't that be enough to satisfy the cops?
mine broke off too(the screws happened to unscrew) and i don't know about Oregon but in California you can still get a Fix-It Ticket for it being in the front window and not on the bumper because if you get in an accident where do think it's gonna go? so i just leave it at home
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Old 07-13-2008, 12:44 AM   #17
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Ya know....if your state requires a front plate, (like this one), I think it might be a good idea to suggest to your state's legislature to make it law to only run a rear plate. WHY? Well, if you cut the plate requirement in HALF, then the state saves 50% on plate costs! Oh, wait...that would make too much sense.....
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I believe the cost is the plates was factored into the cost for registration of your veicle.
I don't mind both of them, it makes it easier to catch criminals.
It's only a 25$ fine in California anyways, if it's that important to you just drive without one.
SO, get the law changed (dont hold your breath, but try anyway)
you pay the fees, get half the plates; and the state saves the extra$$$ win/win
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We do not put the license plate bracket on at the factory --- we ship them in the trunk of the car :

>1. in states that require a front license plate
or
>2. when the dealer orders RPO VK3......

In BOTH cases, the bracket is in the trunk. The Camaro will NOT have holes in the front fascia for the bracket --

There are those that don't like the bracket....

Neither do we.

............think about it -- does anyone REALLY believe that Tom Peters and SangYup Lee -- (designers) WANT something like that bracket on a beautiful car? We cannot force states to drop their front license requirement. (may I suggest that if you are in a state that DOES require it -- that you start a grass-roots effort to have the law repealed???)

The bottom line is that we MUST, by law, provide for a robust system to affix a front license plate onto a vehicle by select states.

Sorry -- that's the way it is.

Once again -- we hate the brackets, too!
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Old 07-13-2008, 02:30 AM   #19
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My front bracket on my '01 "broke off" and i just put the plate in the front window. not sure what the exact law is but shouldn't that be enough to satisfy the cops?
Nope. Not good enough. Because the law states that the front license plate needs to be on the front of the vehicle....furthest mostest farthest point!


And, as you can tell by Scotts answer above....you don't NEED to go anywhere else to order it just because of a license plate braket.
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We do not put the license plate bracket on at the factory --- we ship them in the trunk of the car :

>1. in states that require a front license plate
or
>2. when the dealer orders RPO VK3......

In BOTH cases, the bracket is in the trunk. The Camaro will NOT have holes in the front fascia for the bracket --

There are those that don't like the bracket....

Neither do we.

............think about it -- does anyone REALLY believe that Tom Peters and SangYup Lee -- (designers) WANT something like that bracket on a beautiful car? We cannot force states to drop their front license requirement. (may I suggest that if you are in a state that DOES require it -- that you start a grass-roots effort to have the law repealed???)

The bottom line is that we MUST, by law, provide for a robust system to affix a front license plate onto a vehicle by select states.

Sorry -- that's the way it is.

Once again -- we hate the brackets, too!
hey fbodfather, how close am i to where it will mount too on the front fascia? will it be attached to the lower 'grille'? I am unfortunate, i live in a '2 plate' state so i am GLAD it either comes with the car or I have the code to order it from the local dealer (like I will be able to afford a 5th gen car ).
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:48 AM   #22
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I had no idea so many states required front and back plates. I thought it was mainly a handful of the more populous states that had them.
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Old 07-13-2008, 08:10 AM   #23
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Nope. Not good enough. Because the law states that the front license plate needs to be on the front of the vehicle....furthest mostest farthest point!


And, as you can tell by Scotts answer above....you don't NEED to go anywhere else to order it just because of a license plate braket.
While checking the Texas Department of Public Safety site I came across this:

How many license plates am I required to display?
State law requires that you display two (2) license plates, one to the front and one to the rear. Placement or mounting of license plates is not defined.
Click Here to view state statute

( here is the link)

The Statute is part of the transportation code found in 502.404 which in part states:
§ 502.404. OPERATION OF VEHICLE WITHOUT LICENSE PLATE OR
REGISTRATION INSIGNIA. (a) A person commits an offense if the
person operates on a public highway during a registration period a
passenger car or commercial motor vehicle that does not display two
license plates, at the front and rear of the vehicle
, that have
been:
(1) assigned by the department for the period; or
(2) validated by a registration insignia issued by the
department that establishes that the vehicle is registered for the
period.
(b) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a
public highway during a registration period a passenger car or
commercial motor vehicle, other than a vehicle assigned license
plates for the registration period, that does not properly display
the registration insignia issued by the department that establishes
that the license plates have been validated for the period.
(c) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a
public highway during a registration period a road tractor,
motorcycle, trailer, or semitrailer that does not display a license
plate, attached to the rear of the vehicle
, that has been:
(1) assigned by the department for the period; or
(2) validated by a registration insignia issued by the
department that establishes that the vehicle is registered for the
period.

link for Texas transportation code

no where in the statute could I find info that states "furthest mostest farthest point". There is a section that talks about the license plate not being altered or blocked from view. BTW this is only the TEXAS Transportation code
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im just going to have to tell my dealer, and make it VERY clear, that i do not want the bracket mounted to the front of my car. ill just tell them that it will be a show car and not for street use, if they try to give me hell.
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