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Old 11-04-2009, 09:37 PM   #1
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Oil change question???

I was told today by a Royal Purple rep today that I should change my oil twice before putting Royal Purple in my car.

He said "Those cars have break in oil in them. You don't want any of that mixing with the Royal Purple. I suggest you chage your oil two times before you put Royal Purple in."

Has anyone herd of anything like this. I just have a hard time beleiving it.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:54 PM   #2
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no experience using Royal Purple. "break-in oil"? that's a new one, sounds like a marketing ploy. Although, I changed my oil at 400 miles anyway (only mobil 1 synthetic of course).
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Your Royal Purple guy is a Royal Idiot
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:10 PM   #4
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:12 PM   #5
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Just go MOBIL 1
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Take care of your child and use mobile 1. I changed my baby at 600 miles and plan on changing it again around 3000.
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:28 PM   #7
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I changed mine twice anyways before I reached 1,500 miles and I just put in the Royal Purple motor oil, Synchromax trans fluid, and Max Gear differential fluid. What a difference. Car idles smoother, runs smoother, shifts smoother and it's noticeably quieter inside the car. Well worth it. I've used RP for years and their stuff is great.
So your saying to go ahead and go two Mobil 1 oil changes before going to RP??? huhhhh
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:41 PM   #8
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1000 miles on her now Did a oil change at 500 with Mobil 1 Car isnt broke in yet no changes in runnability yet, she hasnt woke up yet. I just like to follow the manufacture suggestions. Not triing to disagree with you Put what you want in your car. Hope it works well for you.
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:41 PM   #9
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J Lambert, if the car in your avatar is your, your car came from the factory with Mobil 1 in it, not break in oil, which is a old wives tale. We don't know how many miles you have on it now, but most of us have changed it at about 1000 miles, then start your normal oil change schedule. and stick with MOBIL 1 and good quality filters and you can't go wrong.
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Royal Purple... What's the benefit here? Haven't countless studies proven that oil is oil is oil. I've never heard of a well maintained engine blowing because of the oil brand.

Drive a car with Mobil 1 and a car with Supertech (Walmart's oil brand) and you won't be able to tell which is which. You guys think the Mobil 1 car will last longer???
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:17 PM   #11
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i was going to change mine but with my previous cars, i just took it to some oil change place. I have no idea what they use. If i wanter to get mobile 1, how should i got about it. I dont plan on changing it my self. Should i go to the dealer? thanx
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:44 PM   #12
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I'm thinking of switching to Crisco
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:49 PM   #13
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So I will admit this right out ... I wouldn't know the difference regarding oil type, but will say that for the first time in my long car buying life, I changed the oil in my current 10 year old car every 3,000 miles mostly and every now and then at 5,000.

In the early days it was all with the dealer and whatever oil they put in, then after maybe 7-8 years mostly local auto shops.

Anyway, I now have over 260,000 miles on this baby, the most I have ever gotten a car to. Not sure if it was my commitment to changing the oil that helped or that is was a Honda, but ... I will surely do the same with my Camaro and find out.

That said, I am intrigued in this oil type debate ...
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:53 PM   #14
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No No No ... You need Extra Virgin Olive Oil for a Camaro! Crisco will fry it !!!

Sorry, You started it and I couldn't help myself ...
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:00 AM   #15
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also looking at royal purple, i saw a variety of viscosities? i know nothing about oil. which viscosity should i buy and how much should be bought for an oil change
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:12 AM   #16
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Just watch out when you say oil is oil.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:03 AM   #17
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I read an article done by Cambridge university (I think) They tested Mobil 1 against an 'average' priced oil and the cheapest supermarket brand (all oils were the same oil spec)
From 0-2000 miles the lubrication/viscosity of all the oils were nearly identical and all degraded at about the same rate. From 2000-10000 were where the results really changed, Mobil 1 pretty much stayed the same and the other two slowly dropped off through the test, with the cheapest supermarket brand dropping the most! The tester did comment that although the cheapest brand had dropped the most, it still wasn't critical to lubrication/protection.
I will see if I can find the website, it was quite interesting!!
From what I could gather, if you had a car that you just used as a run around, then cheap stuff would be just fine as long as you didn't leave it too long between changes!

Not the site I was looking for but very interesting

http://http://www.mobil1.com.sg/performance/miles.aspx
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:15 AM   #18
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I changed mine at approx. 2000 miles and put the car away for the winter. I used Valvoline Syntec,they claim it's better then mobil 1 on their website,plus it's cheaper. I run synthetic in 3 cars and 1 truck. Mobil 1 got to expensive.
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I read an article done by Cambridge university (I think) They tested Mobil 1 against an 'average' priced oil and the cheapest supermarket brand (all oils were the same oil spec)
From 0-2000 miles the lubrication/viscosity of all the oils were nearly identical and all degraded at about the same rate. From 2000-10000 were where the results really changed, Mobil 1 pretty much stayed the same and the other two slowly dropped off through the test, with the cheapest supermarket brand dropping the most! The tester did comment that although the cheapest brand had dropped the most, it still wasn't critical to lubrication/protection.
I will see if I can find the website, it was quite interesting!!
From what I could gather, if you had a car that you just used as a run around, then cheap stuff would be just fine as long as you didn't leave it too long between changes!

Not the site I was looking for but very interesting

http://http://www.mobil1.com.sg/performance/miles.aspx
That's why i always believed that if you change the oil every 3,000 miles use the cheapest grade of oil you can buy.
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:50 AM   #20
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Does anyone know if they run these engines at the factory at all? Seems to me that anything I've heard or read was that the fist 20mins or so required an oil high in zinc, phosphorous and other minerals for initial break in after that you could switch to whatever synthetic necessary. The engineers are no dummies, I'd have to believe if the car comes with Mobil1 that's just dandy for break in and every day use.
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:34 AM   #21
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the V6 camaro comes with conventional oil from the factory, the v8 comes with M1 from the factory.

Royal Purple is one hell of an oil, mobil 1 is a great oil as well, as is Amsoil. I run RP in everything but my wife's Jetta soley because its still under warranty and free oil changes for 3 years using their brand.

the other thing people need to be aware of is not just the oil that they are using, but the oil FILTER as well. you can use the best oil out there (RP or Redline IMHO) and use a crappy filter (ie Fram) and not be completely protected.

I personally recommend a Wix filter, or a Napa Gold, or Purolator PureOne filter.

M1, K&N, and RP filters are great, but they are pricey compared to the previous 3.
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:45 AM   #22
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I have 3000 miles on my car. I'm picking up an AC Delco filter today and bringing it where I bring all of my cars to get the oil changed. They use Mobile 1.

So I guess thats what she's getting.
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I will till you one thing, I put non synthetic in and changed it out after 300 miles. #230 ran like crap with it so back to Mobil 1.
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Wow! An oil that makes your car run quieter??? Are you serious? How does it compare to Mobil 1? The only concession I'd have made for my Camaro was I was going to use synthetic every time, but I didn;t care which brand. I tend to swing towards penzoil a lot because there's a jiffy lube near me that uses it.

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You should only use non-synthetic in the first 1,500 miles when all the breaking-in is being done. The specific reason is a good synthetic like Mobile 1 does too good a job protecting the cylinder walls and can interfere with the rings seating against the cylinder walls. I put non-synthetic in at the 65 mile mark, changed it again at the 600 mile mark, and I just put Royal Purple in everything at the 1,700 mile mark.
HUH?!

Wow. I plan to just leave the factory oil in until the car manual says to change it! What's the cycle on a camaro? On my Honda CRV, its every 6 months or 6,000 miles. I use Mobil 1 extended performance, supposedly good up to 15,000 miles, but I go by the car's oil life indicator.

Anyway, what's the oil cycle for the Camaro? Every 3,000 miles / 3 months?
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Wow. I plan to just leave the factory oil in until the car manual says to change it! What's the cycle on a camaro? On my Honda CRV, its every 6 months or 6,000 miles. I use Mobil 1 extended performance, supposedly good up to 15,000 miles, but I go by the car's oil life indicator.

Anyway, what's the oil cycle for the Camaro? Every 3,000 miles / 3 months?
most people have been changing their oil around the 1500 mile mark the first time around. after that, whenever the car tells you to
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