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Old 11-05-2009, 12:22 AM   #1
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Update: Chrysler Buisness plan reveals upcoming Challenger Refresh for 2011

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Old 11-05-2009, 02:33 AM   #2
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I'm a lot more interested in the all-new 2010 Charger. Wonder if they will still keep the 4-door setup?
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:25 AM   #3
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http://jalopnik.com/5397115/2012-dod...yline=true&s=i

not sure if you saw this a_username. 4 doors still but looks similar to the 1999 concept.
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:45 AM   #4
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Looks nice, but why oh why keep 4 doors ???
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:50 AM   #5
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Probably change up the interior and get a new v6

I'll be lookin at that little 500 when it comes out...
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:14 AM   #6
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Looks nice, but why oh why keep 4 doors ???
Their Charger hit's the Sedan market... if they were to make ANOTHER coupe to go along with the Challenger (judging by the attention it has received through concepts) it'd be the Cuda.


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Probably change up the interior and get a new v6

I'll be lookin at that little 500 when it comes out...
How bout the Fiat 500 Scuderia...




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Old 11-05-2009, 11:16 AM   #7
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Meh, refresh doesn't mean anything big. Probably some colors, some standard features adjustments, and some slight styling cues on the front and rear...
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:29 AM   #8
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Meh, refresh doesn't mean anything big. Probably some colors, some standard features adjustments, and some slight styling cues on the front and rear...
2011 Mustang refresh brought a 5.0L V8 ....
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:32 AM   #9
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2011 Mustang refresh brought a 5.0L V8 ....
The "refresh" was in 2010, which brought a new skin...unless I missed something...


As for the Challenger...it's too bad they didn't do it right the first time. I'm interested to see what happens in this "refresh".....
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:35 AM   #10
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I drove buy two dodge dealers today and wow. They have nothing on the lots. They better do something faster than this plan or they will be gone. The truck, jeeps , and the charger,300, challenger platform are the only things they got. The rest is worthless. And, face it the charger platform is an old out dated mercedes sl platform.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:39 AM   #11
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The "refresh" was in 2010, which brought a new skin...unless I missed something...


As for the Challenger...it's too bad they didn't do it right the first time. I'm interested to see what happens in this "refresh".....

So what would you call them changing nothing but an engine and transmission....?


To the Challenger Part. If they want to compete that R/T better put down 400hp, and the SRT 450+ hp.
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So what would you call them changing nothing but an engine and transmission....?


To the Challenger Part. If they want to compete that R/T better put down 400hp, and the SRT 450+ hp.
If I had to guess on engines, it's going to be more along the lines of wiping out the SRT, and they will have a fuel efficient yet powerful v6, and one gas guzzling v8. Remember, these plans have to be approved by the government, and they aren't going to approve of two 400+hp v8 engines...
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:45 AM   #13
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If I had to guess on engines, it's going to be more along the lines of wiping out the SRT, and they will have a fuel efficient yet powerful v6, and one gas guzzling v8. Remember, these plans have to be approved by the government, and they aren't going to approve of two 400+hp v8 engines...
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there lol

It'd be better if they could employ some sort of weight saving technique but it'd be too expensive, they'd need a whole new platform
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:49 AM   #14
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If you read the whole plan, you'll see that the 5.7 is on the board until 2014. However it is being upgraded to multi-air. They're already at 390hp in the ram so I'd say 400 wouldn't be an issue. Getting these approved by the government won't be an issue IMHO because they are keeping the volume low while introducing higher volume a and b segment cars. The government has told them they need to get serious on the electric vehicle though.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:52 AM   #15
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So what would you call them changing nothing but an engine and transmission....?
A model year-to-model year change. Similar to how the Vette got an LS3 over the LS2...

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If I had to guess on engines, it's going to be more along the lines of wiping out the SRT, and they will have a fuel efficient yet powerful v6, and one gas guzzling v8. Remember, these plans have to be approved by the government, and they aren't going to approve of two 400+hp v8 engines...
Why do they have to be approved of by the gov't??
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:00 PM   #16
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Why do they have to be approved of by the gov't??
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bai...ler-green-car/

Comes to mind. There is clearly some amount of direct feedback going on with Chrysler and the gub'ment (GM too, for instance the pushing for the new CEO).
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:03 PM   #17
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Comes to mind. There is clearly some amount of direct feedback going on with Chrysler and the gub'ment (GM too, for instance the pushing for the new CEO).
That's....not quite what I meant.
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:07 PM   #18
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That's....not quite what I meant.
Sorry I misunderstood then.
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:08 PM   #19
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Sorry I misunderstood then.
No worries, I wasn't clear enough....just pretend I didn't ask. I'm afraid where it might lead the discussion.
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Where do you see the 5.7 sticking around till 2014?
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:24 PM   #21
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No worries, I wasn't clear enough....just pretend I didn't ask. I'm afraid where it might lead the discussion.
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:37 PM   #22
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Where do you see the 5.7 sticking around till 2014?
Well maybe I sort of misread the big graph- but you'll see on the full presentation which I posted yesterday (as always Zeus, a day late and a dollar short -jk big guy) they show the following slide:

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Which shows the 5.7 and a 6.4 for "beyond 2010"

It also shows the current engine line up:

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Which shows everything from 1 of the 2.4s to the 4.7 V8 replaced by a single V6 model which will be primed for NA or FI applications.

Since these will be the only 8s "beyond 2010" and the slide show shows the development plan through 2014- I assumed that means the 5.7 will be in cycle until then. If they were going to dump the 5.7, now would be the time to do so. 13 engines currently reduced to 8- which makes sense.
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:41 PM   #23
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And yet they continue to dilute their own product line
  • Chrysler small car (2013, supplied by Fiat)
  • Dodge small car (2013, supplied by Fiat)
  • Jeep small CUV (2013, supplied by Fiat, replaces Patriot and Compass)

Who wants to bet these are all the same damn car?
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And yet they continue to dilute their own product line
  • Chrysler small car (2013, supplied by Fiat)
  • Dodge small car (2013, supplied by Fiat)
  • Jeep small CUV (2013, supplied by Fiat, replaces Patriot and Compass)

Who wants to bet these are all the same damn car?
Ladies and Gentleman, to replace all of these vehicles, I am pleased to present to you the all new Fiat Panda with optional European Spec Airbags!:

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I hope Chysler makes it, but it looks bleak at this point.

I will keep my eye on the new Dodge Charger.....the 68/69 Charger was my favorite car....ever.
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