camaro v-6 Vs 99-04 Mustang gt

[scrming]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

The risk is worth the reward IMO, didn't you show us the next vid where he beat you by 1 plus second?

Nope, not in my video... but he did eventually win.. but he SHOULD ALWAYS win!! A S197 GT should always beat a 2010 V6 Camaro... unless there is some serious driver error... like stalling or spinning wildly... LOL!

[SWAT 79]

Right right, I mean, with respect to you, the mustang gt is a fast car, by comparison the camaro v-6 is slow. Then again, manual's take much more skill to drive well, but they also have better benefits when driven properly, Ie more power, better traps, faster ets. The pay off however is that, if you aren't paying attention, you can easily stall or miss a shift and get rocked by a slower vehicle.

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by jrc1122

I think you are missing the entire point- The Sentra was 5 years ago, when I made about 1/3 of what I make now. I can afford nicer, more powerful cars now.
I definitely wasn't bragging about the sentra, I was simply pointing out that a buddy of mine on base had an 04 Automatic GT and he didn't really "smoke" me like an American V8 RWD pony car should, when I drove a little 4 cylinder sedan. that was my point.

And for what it is worth- I was picturing the 94-98 interior in my head when I commented on this thread-- but I still stand by that the 99-04 interior was fairly crappy.

The power is my biggest issue with the 99-04 GT. Not the interior, but the interior makes it a horrible deal all around.

The power was decent on the 99-04 GT. Ford added the Perfromance Improved heads and it helped considerably. Your opinion on the interior is just that, your opinion.

Originally Posted by 9c1ny

no ones mentioned the 94-98 Stangs, can you say CRUSHED?

They aren't worth mentioning

[All-Or-Nothing]

Originally Posted by jrc1122

I say-- who cares who wins.

The 99-04 Mustang is so outdated, and the interior is the biggest rattlebox, crap-plastic interior.

I would not own a 99-04 GT- so the Camaro FTW- regardless who gets down the track faster.

It would be close.

I raced a 04 Mustang GT (automatic) in my old car (04 Nissan Sentra SER- Spec V) (manual)

0-60-- He won by only about 1.5 - 2.0 cars)

Not a really good example if he's ahead 2 cars just in 0-60. Guess that would be 5 cars in the 1/4 mile.

[jrc1122]

Originally Posted by REEFBLUE93

The power was decent on the 99-04 GT. Ford added the Perfromance Improved heads and it helped considerably. Your opinion on the interior is just that, your opinion.

AMEN!


This is my signature on my primary board (G8board.com) same screen name...



"My opinions are just that.. Opinions, as are yours. You are no more right than I am."
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[jrc1122]

PS The mere fact we are comparing an iconic tire roasting RWD V8 pony car(Mustang GT) to a Base Model V6 version of a pony car (Camaro LT) with only 5 years of separation. (literal years - not model years) says plenty about both cars.

I didn't realize I had to like the interior or the mediocre power it had. (I Believe the Nissan Maxima ,a four door family sedan) had very similar HP numbers.

I happen to like the 05+ Mustangs. I am not some Anti-Mustang guy here. I just call it like I see it.

If you disagree with me that is completely fine. I am cool with that.
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[Stew]

Originally Posted by jrc1122

PS The mere fact we are comparing an iconic tire roasting RWD V8 pony car(Mustang GT) to a Base Model V6 version of a pony car (Camaro LT) with only 5 years of separation. (literal years - not model years) says plenty about both cars.

I didn't realize I had to like the interior or the mediocre power it had. (I Believe the Nissan Maxima ,a four door family sedan) had very similar HP numbers.

I happen to like the 05+ Mustangs. I am not some Anti-Mustang guy here. I just call it like I see it.

If you disagree with me that is completely fine. I am cool with that.

It's a testament to how far we have come in the automotive world. Everything from a Camary V6, to a Mitsubishi Eclipse GT, to Nissan Altimas and Maximas, to a Honda Accord, to a Hyundai Genesis all run Similar times to the V6 Camaro now.

[Stew]

OK, don't know where the times came from in the origional post for the GT but they are a little off. If you want a rag time.

Mustang GT 0-60 5.4 and 1/4 mile in 14@100.2
01 Bullitt (only 200 miles, not broken in) 0-60 in 5.6 1/4 mile in 14.07@97.9


See here http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...fications.html Noth times are mentioned in this BUllitt test

[KatarHol]

Originally Posted by Stew

It's a testament to how far we have come in the automotive world. Everything from a Camary V6, to a Mitsubishi Eclipse GT, to Nissan Altimas and Maximas, to a Honda Accord, to a Hyundai Genesis all run Similar times to the V6 Camaro now.

We are the best era of cars ever. I remember when a 300HP LT1 Corvette was a big deal and when the 275HP Z28 came out in '93,well that might as well been a rocket to me when i was 15,i just couldn't believe how fast that car was,and now,300HP on a new car is just sort of blah.........
The better match for the '99-04 GT will be that new V6 Mustang coming out next spring.

[esperman]

Originally Posted by Stew

OK, don't know where the times came from in the origional post for the GT but they are a little off. If you want a rag time.

Mustang GT 0-60 5.4 and 1/4 mile in 14@100.2
01 Bullitt (only 200 miles, not broken in) 0-60 in 5.6 1/4 mile in 14.07@97.9


See here http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...fications.html Noth times are mentioned in this BUllitt test

its really a drivers race. Look at some of our forums track times.
A V6 keeping up with any V8 powered muscle car from the last decade is impressive.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by esperman

its really a drivers race. Look at some of our forums track times.
A V6 keeping up with any V8 powered muscle car from the last decade is impressive.

If it's a 5 speed GT, the Camaro would have to be a 6 speed and the Mustang driver be a worse driver. The best I kind for a V6 6 speed manual Camaro is 14.3 and the best 99-04 run 13.8 at over 100MPH

[scrming]

Originally Posted by esperman

its really a drivers race. Look at some of our forums track times.
A V6 keeping up with any V8 powered muscle car from the last decade is impressive.

yep.. way to many variables with track conditions, weather and drivers... One thing I've noticed is the LLT seems to respond more to weather conditions than previous cars...

Right now with just a simple axle back and a stand alone IAT (to avoid heat soak) I'm running 14.3 with my automatic. Shifts are int the .275 to .3 second range... This is with the DA above 1600... hopefully here in the next couple weeks the DA will be closer to 0 or perhaps a bit negative...

Also my 2LT RS hooks pretty darn good with the stock tires... I'm pulling 2.0 60's very consistently... TC on and flash the converter...

I owned a 2002 Mustang GT vert... was a very fun car... especially with the top down... Nice car but it was before I discovered modding and the track... heck, i don't even have a single picture of it... LOL

[scrming]

Originally Posted by Stew

If it's a 5 speed GT, the Camaro would have to be a 6 speed and the Mustang driver be a worse driver. The best I kind for a V6 6 speed manual Camaro is 14.3 and the best 99-04 run 13.8 at over 100MPH

BTW... i have an automatic... and it's a 6 speed...

[Stew]

Originally Posted by scrming

BTW... i have an automatic... and it's a 6 speed...

Meant 6 speed manual Shoot, getting used to all these autmatics having more than 3 or 4 gears haha

[KMPrenger]

If the 99 - 04 Stang GT's are getting mid to upper 5 sec. 0 - 60 times, well then that makes it nearly a drivers race (and weather conditions will factor into that equation as well).

In optimum weather conditions...many guys are getting into the 5's with their camaro LTs from what ive seen on the V6 forums.

[nachocheese]

Originally Posted by esperman

A V6 keeping up with any V8 powered muscle car from the last decade is impressive.

When you look at V6 cars in general these days, it seems that the gap between V6's and V8's is narrowing. No doubt that 1-2 seconds is huge in a race, it is still small compared to how SS's/GT's of old compared to the average V6 sedan.

[Viral]

Pulled into a burger king drive thru yesterday behind a fairly rough looking 4th gen mustang with tags that say 'H8CHVY' in my 2010 SS. He was waiting to order, caught a glimpse of me in his mirrors and bolted right in the middle of his order! Lol not sure if I scared him off for some reason or if he suddenly decided he wanted McDonalds

[76z28]

Originally Posted by Stew

If it's a 5 speed a Mustang GT of that year should run in the mid/high 5s to 60 and the 1/4 mile in the very low 14s with a few in high 13s. If it is an automatic though, go for it, I was able to pace those in my old LT1 Caprice.

i beat an auto in my 2002 tundra

[Sax1031]

Drivers race.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Why would you revive this thread? not enough mustang vs. camaro threads going??

[Viral]

LOL Because it was the newest one I found pertaining to 99-04 Stangs and it wasn't really about a race, just a run in with a 4gen mustang with funny tags. Didn't want to threadjack an actual live 'vs' conversation.

[Donseye]

I own a 2010 V6 Camaro with auto and one of the guys that works next door to where I work has a 2004 GT Mustang done up with the Stalker ground effects and he has an exhaust system and some other go fast parts( his car looks very cool). We both left work a few days back at the same time. Well we pull up to the light and both look at each other and "its on" we left the light close with the advantage to me (I've been racing for many of years)...I hit second gear and pulled him slightly, we then hit third gear and he pulled back on me (you could see the torque of the V8) then we hit 4th gear and I pull him slightly again! Surprise I win... the next light was coming up quick had to stop. He looks over and acknowledges defeat. We then roll thru the next light and he hits it without me paying attention...I kicked it down and by the next light I caught him and passed him! Needles to say he was not happy with my V6 beating him. I can't wait for our next meeting as I now have an exhaust system and CAI and gears and a CPU tune!! I know you Ford guys out there are going to speculate this for accuracy but it is true. My father is the biggest ford enthusiast I know (worked for Ford and Drag raced Fords for 20years). He now has a 04 Mustang Mach 1 with everything done to this thing including Nitrous (and he is 75yrs old)...I'm not even going to try my luck with Pop...It would be a bad day for me!

[THE EVIL TW1N]

i have an idea! why dont you race an 80's V8 Mustang, then youll put a real good whoopin on one!!!! oh wait oh wait!!! how bout you race a 1967 Camaro with a big ole 327 V8 they only run 18.2@77 MPH!

[Donseye]

I hear ya! But this post was about a 99-04 Mustang GT vs the 2010 V6. I'm just giving factual information on the question in hand! I was not bragging...just giving facts. There are plenty of other cars that could kick the crap out my car including the newer Mustangs...but that was not what this post was about.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Donseye

I hear ya! But this post was about a 99-04 Mustang GT vs the 2010 V6. I'm just giving factual information on the question in hand! I was not bragging...just giving facts. There are plenty of other cars that could kick the crap out my car including the newer Mustangs...but that was not what this post was about.

my bad my sarcasm wasnt really aimed at you.