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Old 07-20-2008, 01:00 AM   #528
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Take a look at that wink there... The Father has hinted at the Z28, I don't know if your aware...
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Old 07-20-2008, 01:08 AM   #529
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A direct carbon copy of the concept car. I likey. I'm interested to see how they further differentiated the V8 from the V6, the only thing I see so far is the hood air inlet.
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Old 07-20-2008, 01:13 AM   #530
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After digesting the yellow vehicle for a day or so, I'm actually starting to like that yellow a little. I still prefer that sunrise yellow but this one is alright.

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Old 07-20-2008, 01:28 AM   #531
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Take a look at that wink there... The Father has hinted at the Z28, I don't know if your aware...
Don't know if you know but when GM originally released the Camaro in 1967 there was ONLY a RS or SS models available until LATER in the production year they offered a race-oriented Z/28. Now since GM beleaves a lot in their history it would suffice to say that NO Z28 for now.
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Old 07-20-2008, 01:33 AM   #532
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This pic makes it look tough to even do aftermarket t-tops.

My uncle is a fire lieutennant/medic for one of Cleveland's suburbs. I can tell you from his first hand experince that if GM has engineered the structure for the Camaro for 5 star safety, you will NOT be able to hack through those roof supports over the door frame.

Cities all over the country have been having to shell out mega, mega, MEGA bucks for 82,000 PSI jaws of life cutters and spreaders and hack saw cutters because the 40,000 PSI models that they have been using for years (work well even with the thick gauge steel used in cars from the 1950s) are absolutely no match for the solid beam reinforcements inside those roof supports and A and B pillars of today's cars. When you read "reinforced safety cage" under the standard safety feachers on the window sticker, they mean reinforced.

Look at crash test footage on new cars. The best cars in head on collisions absorb most of the collision in the front of the car, and the passenger compartment goes basically untouched. But you will notice, even on the most sever collisions, the frames around the windows and roof line are hardly even bent. There are seriously solid steel beams between the sheetmetal and interior plastic.

Imagine the roll cage in the General Lee, only integrated seamlessly and completely unnoticeable into the body structre.
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Old 07-20-2008, 01:34 AM   #533
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anyone else notice the shift pattern... sorry didn't read all billion pages!
I think they noticed the Shift Pattern Placard, but I dont think they realised that reverse is on the drivers side. I am SOOOO used to the T56's passenger side reverse:(
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Old 07-20-2008, 01:34 AM   #534
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Don't know if you know but when GM originally released the Camaro in 1967 there was ONLY a RS or SS models available until LATER in the production year they offered a race-oriented Z/28. Now since GM beleaves a lot in their history it would suffice to say that NO Z28 for now.
I agree with you, I KNOW we will not be able to buy a Z28 this February/March... unless there is a huge surprise!

But eventually, we'll have the option to get one, no doubt.

I think we agreed, but in different perspectives.

"The Z28 will PROBABLY come out later"

Right?
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Old 07-20-2008, 01:39 AM   #535
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I agree with you, I KNOW we will not be able to buy a Z28 this February/March... unless there is a huge surprise!

But eventually, we'll have the option to get one, no doubt.

I think we agreed, but in different perspectives.

"The Z28 will PROBABLY come out later"

Right?
Hopefully, yes. Most likely we'll see it in 2010 cause 2009 model year is really short. But yes I hope and beleave there will be Z28. But I know there diffently won't be a ZL1 aka: COPO Camaro...
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Old 07-20-2008, 01:42 AM   #536
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I think they noticed the Shift Pattern Placard, but I dont think they realised that reverse is on the drivers side. I am SOOOO used to the T56's passenger side reverse:(
European car?.......These pictures were released from a British car site.
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Old 07-20-2008, 01:44 AM   #537
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I will wait as long as it takes.

Z28 or bust.
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Old 07-20-2008, 01:51 AM   #538
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Hopefully, yes. Most likely we'll see it in 2010 cause 2009 model year is really short. But yes I hope and beleave there will be Z28. But I know there diffently won't be a ZL1 aka: COPO Camaro...
DAMN CAFE!!!
"Most likely..." as a 2011 model. But, for now, we KNOW there will be a Z28......until something else comes along.
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A few more new pics from MT's website...











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Old 07-20-2008, 02:12 AM   #540
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Awesome Pics read all 25 pages. Cant wait till 7/21/08 4:00pm EST. Cant wait to see what the SS looks like.
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Old 07-20-2008, 02:12 AM   #541
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I just love it, every pic gets better and better.
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Old 07-20-2008, 02:13 AM   #542
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The 6 is definitely NOT a bad looking car, at all.
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Old 07-20-2008, 06:09 AM   #543
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Hey dont get me wrong...i apologize to everyone...sorry about that
I love Camaro...and have one myself....and iam just as excited about this car as is everyone else....but Something just looked really different to me when I first saw these pics and i noticed right away....this car does not look mean and as aggresive as the one we've been used to seeing all over the internet for a long time now. The front seems pretty much the same for the exception of the headlights....the turn signals were on the outside before and now thier on the inside...which really doesnt make a noticable difference to the front look of the car....and also is the concept wider? ....or am i just imagining it?

And from behind....it doesnt look so intimidating anymore....someone said they had to put that bump in the rear for crash purposes....well if thats the case.... then why isnt the corvette all pointy from behind....i just think they should have rounded and smoothed it out as much as they could....its so obvious....i noticed that right away and iam sure others will too...and where are those huge exhaust pipes? Something looks different about the tail lights too?They could have made it look closer to the concept by placing the reverse lights next to the license plate like the corvette rather than sticking them out there and saying.... look...here i am. Does anyone else agree with me on these little details ?.....that would have made a huge difference. Those reverse lights really are an eye sore on whats supposed to be a smooth sexy behind.

Iam not trying to put the car down...its a beautiful car....legendary.....just wanted to get everyone elses opinion
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Old 07-20-2008, 06:30 AM   #544
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Hey dont get me wrong...i apologize to everyone...sorry about that
I love Camaro...and have one myself....and iam just as excited about this car as is everyone else....but Something just looked really different to me when I first saw these pics and i noticed right away....this car does not look mean and as aggresive as the one we've been used to seeing all over the internet for a long time now. The front seems pretty much the same for the exception of the headlights....the turn signals were on the outside before and now thier on the inside...which really doesnt make a noticable difference to the front look of the car....and also is the concept wider? ....or am i just imagining it?

And from behind....it doesnt look so intimidating anymore....someone said they had to put that bump in the rear for crash purposes....well if thats the case.... then why isnt the corvette all pointy from behind....i just think they should have rounded and smoothed it out as much as they could....its so obvious....i noticed that right away and iam sure others will too...and where are those huge exhaust pipes? Something looks different about the tail lights too?They could have made it look closer to the concept by placing the reverse lights next to the license plate like the corvette rather than sticking them out there and saying.... look...here i am. Does anyone else agree with me on these little details ?.....that would have made a huge difference. Those reverse lights really are an eye sore on whats supposed to be a smooth sexy behind.

Iam not trying to put the car down...its a beautiful car....legendary.....just wanted to get everyone elses opinion
for the record vettes arent crash tested theyre a niche car. I know someone stated that in a former thread. thats why it looks like that..
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