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Old 05-10-2015, 01:07 PM   #1
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Walking on the flag

I write this post for all of my camaro brothers and sisters that have served our great country.

It does not make a person special to place a flag on the ground and walk on it. We all have that freedom. It takes a real man or woman to sew that flag on their uniform and serve honorably.

Therefore, two facts hold true.

1 Regardless how many people walk on the flag it is still going to stand for freedom.

2 Anyone that desecrates the flag is going to be forever know as an ungrateful piece of crap.

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Old 05-10-2015, 01:35 PM   #2
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The People have the RIGHT to protest. Do not interfere with their RIGHT.
If you do interfere with their right, that is contradicting your belief in what the United States was founded upon. The people who founded this great nation have given this right to us for a reason.

You can't be closed minded to the problems of this country or there is no freedom.
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Stomping on a flag is not protesting. It's acting like a little child who doesn't get their way.
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My Grandfather served our country (27 years) if someone did that shit in front of me I would kick there ****ing ass point blank! Don't disrespect the people that died for that flag and our freedom! Better find another way to protest mother****ers!
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Old 05-10-2015, 01:45 PM   #5
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I 100% agree that everyone has the right to protest. Just as long as they do not do it on the back of someone else.

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Old 05-10-2015, 01:52 PM   #7
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Stomping on a flag is not protesting. It's acting like a little child who doesn't get their way.
Your founding fathers did it with the British flag.
History will repeat itself if you choose to ignore it.
I'm not condoning the act, I am defending the right to though because I believe in not only the 1rst Amendment but ALL OF THEM. Yes my family has served in WW1, WW2, and Vietnam and I love them for protecting us.
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The People have the RIGHT to protest. Do not interfere with their RIGHT.
If you do interfere with their right, that is contradicting your belief in what the United States was founded upon. The people who founded this great nation have given this right to us for a reason.

You can't be closed minded to the problems of this country or there is no freedom.

They do not have a right to walk on the flag

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/700


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Your founding fathers did it with the British flag.
History will repeat itself if you choose to ignore it.
I'm not condoning the act, I am defending the right to though because I believe in not only the 1rst Amendment but ALL OF THEM. Yes my family has served in WW1, WW2, and Vietnam and I love them for protecting us.
First, our founding fathers left the UK. So the people that are stomping on the flag, and don't like it here...they can leave.

edit: and no one will chase them and start a war.
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They do not have a right to walk on the flag

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Old 05-10-2015, 02:05 PM   #11
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The People have the RIGHT to protest. Do not interfere with their RIGHT.
If you do interfere with their right, that is contradicting your belief in what the United States was founded upon. The people who founded this great nation have given this right to us for a reason.

You can't be closed minded to the problems of this country or there is no freedom.
It's literally illegal to do so though. Protest all you want but don't break the law. Once that line is crossed it becomes a whole different thing.
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Old 05-10-2015, 02:09 PM   #12
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They do not have a right to walk on the flag

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/700


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That is a code. lol. Let me provide you with a .GOV link: http://www.uscourts.gov/educational-...exas-v-johnson

Also @poormanscamaro you do know we were British Colonies before we were the United States. Thus why I said your Founding Fathers desecrated the British flag.
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First, our founding fathers left the UK. So the people that are stomping on the flag, and don't like it here...they can leave.

edit: and no one will chase them and start a war.
That's exactly what I was thinking. If you don't like it here and feel the need to stomp on the American flag then leave. Why stay if you hate it here so much?
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That is a code. lol. Let me provide you with a .GOV link: http://www.uscourts.gov/educational-...exas-v-johnson

Also @poormanscamaro you do know we were British Colonies before we were the United States. Thus why I said your Founding Fathers desecrated the British flag.
Sure, have a .gov link.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/granule/USC...nt-detail.html

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Old 05-10-2015, 02:52 PM   #15
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Also @poormanscamaro you do know we were British Colonies before we were the United States. Thus why I said your Founding Fathers desecrated the British flag.
Would have to do some research, but I don't think there were any concept of flag desecration in the UK back then. Plus, we don't know if they did anything to the british flag until they came over and started a war. Comparing the two is pretty ridiculous to begin with.
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Im sorry but who exactly is walking on the american flag?
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Old 05-10-2015, 03:26 PM   #17
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Here is a link for you.

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"Eric Sheppard challenge...Sheppard self-identifies as a terrorist against white people"

Ahhh I see now its some dumb fuken challenge made by a racist fuk
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Guys.

Take a deep breath here.

LBreezie: you're a little out of line with your very first post here. Yes I know you won't like reading it, but what way can I sugarcoat that? Nobody you responded to said that anyone didn't have a right to protest. Nobody you responded to said they don't deserve a right to protest. In fact, the post you referred to (your post is the second one, so you must by default be replying to it) states we have that right, quote (bold red from me for emphasis) :

"It does not make a person special to place a flag on the ground and walk on it. We all have that freedom. It takes a real man or woman to sew that flag on their uniform and serve honorably."

So right off the bat, you're not really understanding what the man said, but you're adamantly stating some things as if he's denying somebody something. He stated an opinion which didn't take away anybody's ability to do anything. It's a strong opinion yes, and I feel, a good one. Nothing the man said even suggests ignoring the problems of this country.

I recall debating Texas v. Johnson in Constitutional Law. The case was taught for a reason: it illustrates what we think of as right versus what the law says is right. But just because you (the figurative 'you' of course not you personally) can do something doesn't mean you should.

10 Silver Bullet: and if I'm there, I'll stop you from assaulting that person. Your love of country doesn't give you special rights to harm others because you disagree with them. That's not the America I believe in. It's a dangerous attitude to start feeling that your version of right and wrong takes precedence over other's people's rights. That's not freedom, that's Might Makes Right.

Folks I'm glad to see we're passionate about the subject but let's assume we're all friends, OK? No reason for the way we're headed in this thread.
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lmao this country is messed up beyond belief we let these degenerates riot and ransack our beautiful cities that the hard working middle class built because some crack head drug dealer deservingly got shot by a police officer. Then we have stupid racist pricks like Eric Sheppard jumping on american flags and calling it protests of injustice. You cant call yourself a citizen and protest if you dont contribute to society while leeching off everyone else and collecting welfare.

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How come its always some dumb ass man or women obviously uneducated acting a fool? How come I never see someone in a business attire coming from work doing things like this?

"My message to Erica Walker -- You hate the country so much you stomp on the flag - please by all means and feel free to leave at any time."
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It could be interpreted as free speech. Having said that, do I believe they deserve to be beaten, yes. Now, if they stomp on your (personal) flag then yes they deserve a severe beating.
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People wouldn't stomp on a flag if they've had to wrap it around a buddies coffin defending freedom.. Yes it's a symbol but is Our symbol of what our country stands for..
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Would have to do some research, but I don't think there were any concept of flag desecration in the UK back then. Plus, we don't know if they did anything to the british flag until they came over and started a war. Comparing the two is pretty ridiculous to begin with.
You may or may not know that in the time of the revolutionary war, colonists DID indeed burn British flags. What would our founding fathers say if they heard that we would use the revolution as justification to take away our most sacred rights? To ban flag burning is incredibly Un-American.

To truly "burn" your freedom would be to not burn a flag because of a law. To burn a flag because you have a strong opinion against your government, would be to practice your freedoms as a citizen of this great nation, America.

The Supreme Court has ruled against violating protests in which flag burning is used. The United States Codes were put there in order for the Federal government to be allowed to stop the demonstrations but the Supreme Court has already made it very clear that burning or desecrating a flag in form of free speech is VERY much LEGAL.

(Also I may have assumed OP was threatening to hurt anyone that would burn the flag in protest. Which may or may not be true, but that act in itself would get you a lawsuit fast and jail time for aggravated assault.) It's good to discuss the topic for the greater of public knowledge.

I do not think that we are "burning" our independence, when we set a piece of cloth with a certain pattern of dye on it aflame. I think we are practicing our rights.
You must realize that is the reason why we separated from Great Britain:
To have rights such as the right to freedom of speech.
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Yes, that's my point. They burned british flags because the british came to America and wanted to start a war. totally different situation. Apples and oranges. Our founding fathers actually did something about not liking the place they lived. They moved.

And there are many ways to protest. burning a flag, or stomping on a flag, will do nothing to solve whatever issue they may have. That act will actually harm what they may be trying to do.
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