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Old 07-22-2008, 10:30 AM   #1
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Good Choice on GM's Part!!

I know the majority of Camaro and Muscle Car enthusiasts probably all prefer stick shift, but I personally think GM including the Tap Shift or "Shift Tronic" technology into the Automatic Transmissions is a great idea and may attract a different crowd eventually causing the current crowd to grow!

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Old 07-22-2008, 10:31 AM   #2
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Definitely a great move. The 6 speed is awesome too!
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:33 AM   #3
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for the people that can't drive stick and the ones that praise paddles I agree.
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I absolutely love it! Most of my Camaros are manual cars but the tap shift allows you to have almost as much fun as a manual but still keep your sanity when in rush hour traffic.

Clutch out and roll a few feet, clutch in, clutch out and roll for a few feet, clutch in, clutch out and roll for a few feet, clutch in.....drives me nuts and I swear my left leg muscles are stronger than my right leg as a result!
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:34 AM   #5
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For some reason I didn't see a 6spd Auto coming! But that just makes me even more excited at the possibilities it can bring!
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I like the way it will work as well where the car will redline until you upshift. BMW's set-up sucks because the computer will overide if it thinks you are shifting too soon or too late.
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Im only interessed in an Auto and im not really sure whats this tap shift transmission is

Will i be able to get a plain regular auto trans on the floor like on my 99 firebird
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for the people that can't drive stick and the ones that praise paddles I agree.
Son, Some people can drive a stick but prefer the automatic......
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Im only interessed in an Auto and im not really sure whats this tap shift transmission is

Will i be able to get a plain regular auto trans on the floor like on my 99 firebird

you dont have to use it.
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you dont have to use it.

Cool and thanks for the quick answer
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I absolutely love it! Most of my Camaros are manual cars but the tap shift allows you to have almost as much fun as a manual but still keep your sanity when in rush hour traffic.

Clutch out and roll a few feet, clutch in, clutch out and roll for a few feet, clutch in, clutch out and roll for a few feet, clutch in.....drives me nuts and I swear my left leg muscles are stronger than my right leg as a result!
AMEN! The reason I went to an Automatic Sky was just that reason. I was caught up in traffic for a long time one day, and the next day I could hardly walk because of my left knee was sooo sore... The tap shift will be fun when you want and full auto mode will be great in traffic..
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:07 AM   #12
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Im only interessed in an Auto and im not really sure whats this tap shift transmission is

Will i be able to get a plain regular auto trans on the floor like on my 99 firebird
I'll explain the technology to you a little

An Automatic Transmission with "this" technology (also called "Shift Tronic", "Paddle Shifters", "Smart Shift", etc) essentially the default mode is Auto. You drive the car just like any other automatic powered car, just start it, put it in Drive and go! But if you want, you can put it into "M", which stands for "Manual Mode". You can easily take it out but shifting it back into "D". But with Manual Mode, you can control the gear shifts by tapping the shift knob forward to "up" a gear, and tapping it back to go "down" a gear. So it's really a very free reign technology. If you don't like the feeling of having more control over your car and playing with it you can just simply switch it back into "D" and not worry about a thing! Very user friendly technology!
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I'll explain the technology to you a little

An Automatic Transmission with "this" technology (also called "Shift Tronic", "Paddle Shifters", "Smart Shift", etc) essentially the default mode is Auto. You drive the car just like any other automatic powered car, just start it, put it in Drive and go! But if you want, you can put it into "M", which stands for "Manual Mode". You can easily take it out but shifting it back into "D". But with Manual Mode, you can control the gear shifts by tapping the shift knob forward to "up" a gear, and tapping it back to go "down" a gear. So it's really a very free reign technology. If you don't like the feeling of having more control over your car and playing with it you can just simply switch it back into "D" and not worry about a thing! Very user friendly technology!
Okay, let's say that you've never driven a manual before, and you've never driven anything with paddle shifters, can you screw up your car if you don't know what your doing, or will it override it if your not doing it right?
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:23 AM   #15
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Okay, let's say that you've never driven a manual before, and you've never driven anything with paddle shifters, can you screw up your car if you don't know what your doing, or will it override it if your not doing it right?

I'm not sure about ALL Brands and Models with this technology but the Mazda 6 I test drove with it installed had a limit or something that would kick in if your revs were slightly too high or too low. If your in gear too high, I'm pretty sure it will kick over, I know it SHOULD do it for down shifting! Like if you are coming to a stop sign and you were in 2nd gear, if you come to a complete stop it automatically puts you in 1st gear.
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I'll explain the technology to you a little

An Automatic Transmission with "this" technology (also called "Shift Tronic", "Paddle Shifters", "Smart Shift", etc) essentially the default mode is Auto. You drive the car just like any other automatic powered car, just start it, put it in Drive and go! But if you want, you can put it into "M", which stands for "Manual Mode". You can easily take it out but shifting it back into "D". But with Manual Mode, you can control the gear shifts by tapping the shift knob forward to "up" a gear, and tapping it back to go "down" a gear. So it's really a very free reign technology. If you don't like the feeling of having more control over your car and playing with it you can just simply switch it back into "D" and not worry about a thing! Very user friendly technology!
Great explanation thanks, sound way too complicated for me so i ill keep it on D and just drive
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:32 AM   #17
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Great explanation thanks, sound way too complicated for me so i ill keep it on D and just drive

alright, fair enough
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I'm not sure about ALL Brands and Models with this technology but the Mazda 6 I test drove with it installed had a limit or something that would kick in if your revs were slightly too high or too low. If your in gear too high, I'm pretty sure it will kick over, I know it SHOULD do it for down shifting! Like if you are coming to a stop sign and you were in 2nd gear, if you come to a complete stop it automatically puts you in 1st gear.

well i really want to learn to use my paddles. but im a little scared to screw something up. someone needs to post a how to video on here for me
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Great explanation thanks, sound way too complicated for me so i ill keep it on D and just drive
Only problem is that if you see how much fun a buddy will have using it, you'll learn it pretty quickly. Auto-X anyone?
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well old age sets in or people get lazy. . .whatever the reason they don't drive an manual because it's not fun for them anymore.
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well old age sets in or people get lazy. . .whatever the reason they don't drive an auto because it's not fun for them anymore.
I think you meant the reason they don't drive a MANUAL because it's not fun for them any more.
Some guys think driving a manual makes them MACHO.... anyone that thinks that is fooling themselves...
You can have just as much fun in an Automatic.. If you really know how to drive
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I think you meant the reason they don't drive a MANUAL because it's not fun for them any more.
Some guys think driving a manual makes them MACHO.... anyone that thinks that is fooling themselves...
You can have just as much fun in an Automatic.. If you really know how to drive

well I drive a manual because it's fun and if you know how to drive you know what gear the car needs to be in. The car will tell. . .you just got to listen to her. now with an auto it's no fun left foot gets bored and feel disconnected from the car.
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well i really want to learn to use my paddles. but im a little scared to screw something up. someone needs to post a how to video on here for me
It's pretty unlikely that they'll allow you to do anything immediately destructive. It will certainly allow you to drive along at near-redline all you want, which if you just cruise along like that will probably beat the hell out of your engine quickly.

What are you afraid of? As long as you're vaguely aware of how fast the engine is spinning, you aren't going to hit redline before you hit the shifter unless you are really trying to. Just practice at lower RPMs in normal daily driving first.

Anyway you shouldn't try to out-think the computer for fastest acceleration; you can't choose better shift points than a modern computer. For that, just put it in D (or 'S' if there's a "Sport" mode) and shove the pedal into the floor. The purpose of paddle shifters is when you think ahead and want it in a different gear BEFORE you need it. It won't allow you to downshift into a gear that will blow the engine.
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It's pretty unlikely that they'll allow you to do anything immediately destructive. It will certainly allow you to drive along at near-redline all you want, which if you just cruise along like that will probably beat the hell out of your engine quickly.

What are you afraid of? As long as you're vaguely aware of how fast the engine is spinning, you aren't going to hit redline before you hit the shifter unless you are really trying to. Just practice at lower RPMs in normal daily driving first.

Anyway you shouldn't try to out-think the computer for fastest acceleration; you can't choose better shift points than a modern computer. For that, just put it in D (or 'S' if there's a "Sport" mode) and shove the pedal into the floor. The purpose of paddle shifters is when you think ahead and want it in a different gear BEFORE you need it. It won't allow you to downshift into a gear that will blow the engine.
yep....^^^ to prove that point when I was test driving the Mazda 6, I was on the interstate going about 70mph and I went to downshift into 4...it wouldn't let me down shift until my foot was on the brake!
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I think it's great that paddles are an option for those who want them. Me I've mastered the manual gearbox finally and get bored when I get in auto. Nothing like slamming in those gears. Just my opinion.
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