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Old 11-18-2009, 01:13 PM   #101
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to you its just a name. to many others, its Heritage. its passion, its love, its more than the name.

and 425hp from a v6 is not the same as 425hp from a v8
That may be true but from reading the thread the heritage can't even be agreed upon. Not trying to hurt anyones feelings but there are many that would buy the TTV6 regardless if it were called Z28 or POS. Its 2009, a TTV6 is a sign of the times.
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to you its just a name. to many others, its Heritage. its passion, its love, its more than the name.

and 425hp from a v6 is not the same as 425hp from a v8
I'm sorry; to say it's just a name is utterly incomprehensible. Z28's always been about performance.
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That may be true but from reading the thread the heritage can't even be agreed upon. Not trying to hurt anyones feelings but there are many that would buy the TTV6 regardless if it were called Z28 or POS. Its 2009, a TTV6 is a sign of the times.

there's a difference in what peoples opinions are of heritage and what the facts of the cars background are.

TTV6 is a sign of the times. but TTV6 is not a sign of a Z28.
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That may be true but from reading the thread the heritage can't even be agreed upon. Not trying to hurt anyones feelings but there are many that would buy the TTV6 regardless if it were called Z28 or POS. Its 2009, a TTV6 is a sign of the times.
Sign of what times?
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there's a difference in what peoples opinions are of heritage and what the facts of the cars background are.

TTV6 is a sign of the times. but TTV6 is not a sign of a Z28.
Haha, I can live with that.
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that would buy the TTV6 regardless if it were called Z28 or POS. Its 2009, a TTV6 is a sign of the times.
I would not be one of them.... Even if it has the name Z/28 on it, it still has to impress me.

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Sign of what times?
sign that engines are going to not increase in size dramatically, but more than likely decrease as time goes on. more FI from the factory, DI, VVT, AFM, all sorts of new technology reducing the "need" for overly large engines. the hot rodders will still have their choice of toys however, but look for smaller FI engines to start overpopulating the market.
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I have already decided that I'm selling my SS if the Jay Leno Camaro is put in production...or the Z28...I dunno! (maybe the same design?) Really, I hope that the twin turbo V6 is replaced with a V8 though. It doesn't make since to me to make a new looking V6 package; especially if you consider how many V8 have been sold vs. V6s.
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I have already decided that I'm selling my SS if the Jay Leno Camaro is put in production...or the Z28...I dunno! (maybe the same design?) Really, I hope that the twin turbo V6 is replaced with a V8 though. It doesn't make since to me to make a new looking V6 package; especially if you consider how many V8 have been sold vs. V6s.
that is exactly why
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:30 PM   #114
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Going back to the talk about the G8, I heard they were bringing it back as the next generation Impala, but I could have heard wrong. And GM would be crazy to not bring the G8 back. Plain and simple. If it comes back as the Caprice or Impala or whatever, yay GM. If not, boo GM. But I still love em.
The plan is shaping up to be, Police Fleet cars in 2011. When Pontiac is dead & gone, a Chevy SS in 2012.

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If it's Monday, there must be a big, rear-wheel drive Chevrolet four-door coming soon. Tuesday? We'll retract and deny everything. We know, we know. We also know we just reported that the next Chevy Impala will remain front-wheel drive – but check this out. We've been hearing rumors for some time now, that despite whatever Fritz Henderson has to say on the matter, a high-performance version of General Motors' Zeta platform that underpins the Pontiac G8 will live on as a Chevy SS model, either badged as a Caprice or (more likely) an Impala. And we're not talking the police special. As Maximum Bob has said, the G8 is "Kinda too good to waste." Needless to say, we totally agree.

An eagle-eye'd AB reader named Jim just caught the following on a Pontiac G8 forum:

"My dealer had sent off pictures to GM of the cable portion of the front seats belts rubbing against the plastic on the side of the front seats. In an email sent back to the dealer, GM says that they have no plans to solve what has already been built but going forward a correction is planned. The email continues: ...a fix is planned for MY11.5 Chevy Police Program and MY12 Chevy SS. The fix will involve a protective sleeve that covers the buckle and section of the buckle stem that rubs on the plastic trim."

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Old 11-19-2009, 07:30 AM   #115
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sign that engines are going to not increase in size dramatically, but more than likely decrease as time goes on. more FI from the factory, DI, VVT, AFM, all sorts of new technology reducing the "need" for overly large engines. the hot rodders will still have their choice of toys however, but look for smaller FI engines to start overpopulating the market.
Smaller engines...bwahahahahaha I dont even understand that language. Thank goodness for the after market
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There never has been a V6 Z/28
But there has been V6 SS's
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not in a camaro.
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Just like a supercharger has never been in a Camaro from ?
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I have already decided that I'm selling my SS if the Jay Leno Camaro is put in production...or the Z28...I dunno! (maybe the same design?) Really, I hope that the twin turbo V6 is replaced with a V8 though. It doesn't make since to me to make a new looking V6 package; especially if you consider how many V8 have been sold vs. V6s.
When the camaro is no longer the new kid on the block and gas prices goes back to $4.50 a gallon that will change over night. The value of the dollar keeps decreasing, thus gas prices rising is inevitable sooner or later.
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An eagle-eye'd AB reader named Jim just caught the following on a Pontiac G8 forum:

"My dealer had sent off pictures to GM of the cable portion of the front seats belts rubbing against the plastic on the side of the front seats. In an email sent back to the dealer, GM says that they have no plans to solve what has already been built but going forward a correction is planned. The email continues: ...a fix is planned for MY11.5 Chevy Police Program and MY12 Chevy SS. The fix will involve a protective sleeve that covers the buckle and section of the buckle stem that rubs on the plastic trim."

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I think Jay said it best in the video where they show him seeing the car for the first time @ SEMA '09 a few weeks ago, "if we want to keep cars like this around we have to accept they're going to have to change"...or something to that effect...and he's right. The answer I would have like to heard from Lutz though would have been "We'll get it done".
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Anyways in response to this thread, may i be the first to smack my forehead...if you can already buy a 425hp Camaro what the hell is all the hype about a new one, lol, so what its a turbo V6 the V8 does that with not a damn thing attatched and thats where the bragging rights go, lol, and besides there wont be much weight savings, the V6 isnt THAT much lighter than the V8 and even then all the turbo stuff will even it out plus there'll still lower torque, the V6 is the economy car, not the performance car, stop trying to make it the performance car and all you tuners stop whining about it, this is a CAMARO not a friggin Civic, go rice out your 92' import-mobile...and if they do make a twin turbo V6 it better be the base engine for LT models (like Ford's doing with the Mustang) and that V8 better get the same 100hp boost, otherwise im totally not feeling the hype...
1.) you can get the power of the v8 with the mpg of a v6!!!

2.)theres lots of v6 performance cars, they're not muscle cars but they tend to handle alot better than muscle cars.

3.) please give me your address because as soon as I get mine I'm driving to your house and going yarding in your front lawn. and incase your too old to understand what that is, it means I'm gonna do donuts in your front yard. who are you to be telling people what they can and cant do with their cars?

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1.) you can get the power of the v8 with the mpg of a v6!!!
yea its called the LS3

2.)theres lots of v6 performance cars, they're not muscle cars but they tend to handle alot better than muscle cars.
the GTR is one i can think off the top of my head, but it doesnt handle better than its muscle car counter part the Z06, ZR1 or the Viper.

3.) please give me your address because as soon as I get mine I'm driving to your house and going yarding in your front lawn. and incase your too old to understand what that is, it means I'm gonna do donuts in your front yard. who are you to be telling people what they can and cant do with their cars?
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