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Old 11-17-2009, 01:21 AM   #1
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thinking bout installing springs my self

should i not? im not sure if i could do it but i dont want to pay some crazy price to have it done

so what do i need to know?
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:31 AM   #2
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Look 'dis
http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=23

edit: nevermind, you meant suspension. This link is for valve springs.
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:58 PM   #3
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It's a job that can be completed in a driveway in roughly 3-4 hours. You'll need a good Jack, jack stands, strut spring compressor and basic hand tools.

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Old 11-17-2009, 02:07 PM   #4
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thanks- my friends and i will attempt to do this
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:36 PM   #5
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Is there anything other than alignment that needs to be done after a spring install?
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:38 PM   #6
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That's all for my car Alignment this Friday...I was told to let the car settle in a bit before the alignment. So I waited...200-300 miles or so.
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:53 PM   #7
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That's all for my car Alignment this Friday...I was told to let the car settle in a bit before the alignment. So I waited...200-300 miles or so.
Cool, ive seen some people post about Camber/Caster/Toe, i have no idea what those are, or who would be able to adjust them
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:57 PM   #8
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Yes, those are alignment terms. See this FAQ: http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoAlignment.dos

Discount Tire does not do alignments though...Your local Chevy dealer does and I was quoted around $108.
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:00 PM   #9
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should i not? im not sure if i could do it but i dont want to pay some crazy price to have it done

so what do i need to know?
i've lowered 3 camaro's so far, let me know if i can help you.

right off my head, youll need:

15/16 or 21mm wrench
24mm socket
7mm socket(to undo front swaybar,hold backup with 15mm wrench)
21mm socket
40,45 torx drive bits
15mm socket
18mm socket
15mm wrench
18mm wrench
10"-12" extension
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:26 PM   #10
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i've lowered 3 camaro's so far, let me know if i can help you.

right off my head, youll need:

15/16 or 21mm wrench
24mm socket
7mm socket(to undo front swaybar,hold backup with 15mm wrench)
21mm socket
40,45 torx drive bits
15mm socket
18mm socket
15mm wrench
18mm wrench
10"-12" extension
did you do the alignment right away, or as one of the other posts says let the car settle a little first ?
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:53 PM   #11
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There are several issues on alignments that need to to be considered when dropping the Camaro:

1. There is no camber alignment bolt in the front end. Therefore it becomes more of a challenge just to put it back into the same location.

2. When dropping the rear, we have found the rear camber adjustment becomes very limited and does not have enough throw to be able to put the rear cambers where we like to to promote best reduction in understeer.

Pedders makes 3 alignment kits for the Camaro:
1. A front kit that includes the camber adjuster bolt, and a set of eccentrics that will allow you to adjust front caster, which is not adjustable in OE configuration
2. A rear kit that includes new hardware to adjust the rear cambers and toes.
3. A kit that includes both front and rear.

The Pedders kits use lazer cut eccentrics that relocate the center hole to allow a far greater throw than OE and come with a life time warranty.

They are also cad plated for corrosion protection. Here is a picture of the full kit:


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Old 11-17-2009, 10:00 PM   #12
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I have been doing alignments for along time .I would put 200-300 miles on the car before the alignment to let them set because they all do.If you don't want to wait, ask the alignment shop if they will recheck it after a few miles or after about 30 days.They may have to touch it up a bit but you will be happier with it, not mention not ruining a set of tires.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:30 PM   #13
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How much is the whole kit?

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There are several issues on alignments that need to to be considered when dropping the Camaro:

1. There is no camber alignment bolt in the front end. Therefore it becomes more of a challenge just to put it back into the same location.

2. When dropping the rear, we have found the rear camber adjustment becomes very limited and does not have enough throw to be able to put the rear cambers where we like to to promote best reduction in understeer.

Pedders makes 3 alignment kits for the Camaro:
1. A front kit that includes the camber adjuster bolt, and a set of eccentrics that will allow you to adjust front caster, which is not adjustable in OE configuration
2. A rear kit that includes new hardware to adjust the rear cambers and toes.
3. A kit that includes both front and rear.

The Pedders kits use lazer cut eccentrics that relocate the center hole to allow a far greater throw than OE and come with a life time warranty.

They are also cad plated for corrosion protection. Here is a picture of the full kit:


thanks
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:11 PM   #14
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Yes, +1 on the price. Then, will an alignment shop know what to do with these? The camber alignment bolts in the front end are obvious as I've seen the empty bolt hole.

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