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Old 01-16-2007, 09:09 PM   #1
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Rear-drive Pontiac Grand Prix replacement spied in Australia

By BOB GRITZINGER

AutoWeek | Published 01/16/07, 9:42 am et

General Motors will draw on its Australian Holden division for a new rear-wheel-drive sedan to replace the Pontiac Grand Prix. The Holden Commodore SS will be rebadged as the 2008 Pontiac G8 when it arrives in the U.S. late this year or early next year, according to published reports.

GM vice chairman Bob Lutz spilled the beans on plans for the car at the Detroit auto show and promised that more details will be forthcoming at the Chicago show in February.

“It’s such a logical thing to do,” Lutz said. “The volume range is 30,000 to 50,000. It depends on how we price it.” Reports indicate pricing will be around $25,000.

The latest Pontiac will draw on the Holden Commodore that went on sale in Australia in August 2006. The right-hand-drive model must be re-engineered for left-hand drive for the U.S. Spy shots reveal that work is well under way, along with new sheetmetal, to distinguish it from its Aussie cousin.

G8 will come with a choice of V6 or V8 engines, including a 6.0-liter 362-hp, 390-lb-ft V8 coupled to a six-speed manual or automatic transmission.

GM previously sold a rebadged Holden Monaro as the Pontiac GTO in the United States, and despite the car’s strong appeal to enthusiasts, sales of the 2004 to 2006 models did not meet expectations.
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Old 01-17-2007, 12:07 AM   #2
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GM sure is upping it's HP in many different lines of cars....a great thing if you ask me. Even though it looks like a Zebra and I can't really make out the lines, it seems like it could be a nice ride.
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Old 01-19-2007, 12:05 PM   #3
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Hi, I'm new here.
I'm a total car freak (GM-fan, of course!), and I've been a member at GM Insidenews forums since around June 2006. I first heard about this site when someone at GMI posted a link to an article here a few months back, and I've been frequently visiting this site the last few months, and I finally decided to join.


Anyways, back to the topic. One of the guys at GMI thinks that the pic that is posted at the top of this page may actually be the new Holden-based Buick. It's the first post at this link. Very interesting.

www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43385&page=12
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Old 01-20-2007, 12:56 AM   #4
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The front headlights remind me of an opel astra for some reason.
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:13 PM   #5
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sure looks like a holden (not a bad thing)

i do like the sound of the v8 model though!
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Old 01-31-2007, 03:46 PM   #6
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Old 02-01-2007, 10:15 AM   #7
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I like the looks of those last 2 pics. And the v8 option sounds AWESOME. for GM
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:20 PM   #8
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Saturn Astra and Pontiac G8 at Chicago Auto Show
Text & Photo edited by Frank de Leeuw van Weenen
Source: General Motors
01-31-2007

Also Chevrolet Corvettes special editions to debut

General Motors will introduce the all-new 2008 Saturn Astra and 2008 Pontiac G8 at the Chicago Auto Show next week, building on the momentum of the North American International Auto Show in Detroit – where the Saturn Aura captured the North American Car of the Year award and the Chevrolet Silverado claimed the North American Truck of the Year award.

Saturn continues its product revitalization with the new Astra compact car, along with the 2008 Vue Red Line and Vue Green Line hybrid. The Astra marks the fifth all-new vehicle in Saturn’s lineup, and is the last step in a complete reinvention of the brand’s showroom in less than 20 months.

The G8 sedan represents Pontiac 's continuing commitment to rear-wheel-drive performance, and adds to the G6 GXP and Torrent GXP recently introduced in Detroit. Additionally, a pair of special-edition Chevrolet Corvettes will debut.

The Chicago Auto Show is open to the public Feb. 9-18 at McCormick Place.

GM also will bring the cars that caused a stir in Detroit : the Chevrolet Volt electric car concept, the Chevrolet Camaro convertible concept, the 2008 Chevrolet Malibu and the 2008 Cadillac CTS.

“It is truly an exciting time at GM, because every few weeks, we get to show off all-new models that reinforce the fact that we’re not only back in the car market, we’re back with the intention to lead it,” said GM North America president Troy Clarke. “The common thread linking all of these great new products is our renewed commitment to design excellence and technological innovation.”

Complementing GM’s new vehicles at the Chicago Auto Show is an all-new exhibit that is the auto show equivalent of an art gallery. It features a distinctive, more intuitive layout that allows visitors to experience GM’s eight individual brands in gallery-type settings.
I'm pretty amped about seeing this car, especially after seeing the abcnews interview w/ Rick Wagoner. Looks pretty aggressive and like the kind of image builder the Pontiac brand needs. It deserves a chance.
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:56 PM   #9
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stumbled upon this.... looks like the G8 minus the holden badges...





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Old 02-04-2007, 06:29 PM   #10
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Pics aren't showing up :(
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:10 PM   #13
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^^^ Those are some VERY cool shots! I'd love to see that on the roads!
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:42 PM   #14
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This thing looks hotter than a BMW M5!!! Hope they don't change a thing on the production car.
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Old 02-06-2007, 07:51 AM   #15
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Here's some leaked official press pics
http://www.g8power.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24

Sorry I haven't been around these parts but the G8 has my attention recently since it's coming out soon and I'm considering a sedan instead of a coupe.
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:42 AM   #16
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I like it. GM's got another winner.

The only thing I'd change...the clear tail lights. Cheesy and cheap looking IMO. They look like a 'Pep Boys' "boy racer" add-on.
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:55 AM   #17
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Based on the pictures, it has a bland cookie cutter look to it that just looks plain boring. This design would have looked great in 1999 or 2000, but looks dated for 2007-08. Looks like a bloated E46 3 series BMW. Maybe it'll look better in person. I don't know.
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Chicago Auto Show: 2008 Pontiac G8

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Chicago Auto Show: 2008 Pontiac G8
Pontiac is bringing back a 4-door relative based on the Holden Commodore SS, but rather than use the GTO badge, it calls this sedan the G8.
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:33 PM   #19
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ok so lets bring the holden ute to the states to and get the el camino back in action. anyone agree with me on that move? i hear it is actually in the works.
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:36 PM   #20
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Maybe Im just wierd but I hate the things. (El Camino)
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:41 PM   #21
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i have always liked them, but hey whatever floats your boat. i feel gm is finally going in the right direction with all the new products they are putting out. we will see what happens in the near future with the camaros old friends
(el camino, gto, firebird, chevelle, and whom ever else is worth mentioning).
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Old 02-06-2007, 07:16 PM   #22
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I have to agree that GM is going in the right direction. They're finally taking the business seriously and building products consumers want, not what works best for the bottom line and the bottom line only. Beyond that they're tapping into their over seas brands potential in that they make high quality cars that offer both excellent performance and value.

On topic: I'm ecstatic the car will be here in August, which as pointed out already, is quick turn around time. The G8 deserves to succeed and here is hoping that it will. In the mean time I'm going to search for some road tests of the Commodore so we can get a feel for what we can expect.
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Old 02-06-2007, 07:31 PM   #23
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C&D preliminary write up:

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2008 Pontiac G8 - Auto Shows


Pontiac chases down the Dodge Charger and Chrysler 300C with a rear-wheel-drive V-8–powered sedan. Bye-bye, Grand Prix.
BY JARED GALL, February 2007

Pontiac has been pushing itself as a performance brand for years while peddling not much more than plastic ribs and dual-nostril snouts pasted onto underwhelming Chevrolets. Woo hoo. The 400-hp, rear-wheel-drive GTO was a good start, but looked like everything else on the road all rolled into one large, formless blob. It foundered, died, and may or may not return, depending on whom you ask.

Then Pontiac rolled out the Solstice, a delightfully tossable little treat with oh-my-god good looks and performance to match. We started to pay attention to Pontiac. After all these years, is Pontiac going to try to capture our attention with product, rather than marketing? At the Chicago Auto Show this week, the Poncho crew is doing just that with the G8 GT.

A little extra show for Chicago, but still exciting in the showroom

The G8 GT Pontiac showed in Chicago is not, in fact, exactly what the G8 GT is going to look like when it hits showrooms early in 2008. This car is dolled up with a few SEMA-style tweaks that will not make it into production. For example, if you like the 20-inch wheels, tough nuggets. They won’t make the cut. Ditto for the ride height (production will be about a half-inch higher), the paint color, the hi-po brakes and painted calipers, and most tragically of all, the lovely two-tone leather interior. An available sport package will include alloy pedals and a leather-trimmed steering wheel and shifter, but the leather-wrapped dash is a show-car one-off. So sorry.

On the other hand, take a look at what will make it into production: a 6.0-liter V-8 delivering a 362-horsepower and 391 lb-ft whack to unwitting passengers; a choice between six-speed automatic or six-speed manual transmissions—the manual not available until shortly after launch—and prairie-fire smoke billowing off the rear tires. Some semblance of environmental responsibility will be maintained with cylinder deactivation in low-load situations. The V-8 will headline the G8 GT, while base G8s will get the General’s DOHC 3.6-liter V-6 making 261 hp and 250 lb-ft twisting a five-speed automatic. We figure the GT’s combo ought to be good for 0-to-60 runs in less than 5.5 seconds, with the quarter passing in the low 14s at right around 100 mph. Braking duties will be handled by 12.6-inch rotors clamped by two-piston calipers up front, with single-piston calipers in the rear pinching 12.8-inch rotors. Rotors on base G8s will be about an inch smaller at each end. ABS is standard on all models.

Prices for this rear drive Grand Prix replacement should start just under $25,000 for a base V-6 model, about $27,000 for a bare-bones GT, and into the mid-$30,000 region for a loaded GT.

2008 Pontiac G8 - Chassis and Styling

Based on serious architecture to take down serious opponents

Just as the cost-saving but soul-sapping front-drive architecture is gone, Pontiac is cutting no corners with the G8’s suspension, either. Each wheel of the G8 will be independently suspended, the front end riding on struts and the rear on a four-link setup, with anti-roll bars both front and rear. V-6 models will come with 18-inch wheels, while the GT gets 19s and stiffer suspension tuning. Actually, Pontiac shouldn’t get all the credit, or even much credit at all. Holden, GM’s Australian arm, designed and built both the platform the G8 is built on and the G8 itself. This is the first North American look at the platform formerly known as Zeta—now Global Rear-Wheel Drive—that will eventually underpin the production Camaro as well as the next-generation Impala and possibly a GTO replacement.

A full-size, rear-wheel-drive, V-8–powered sedan from an American company? Who’s thinking Chrysler 300/Dodge Charger? GM is. Both inside and out, the G8’s measurements are similar, if not a smidge bigger, to the DaimlerChrysler twins in all critical dimensions. The G8’s length (196.1 inches), width (74.8 inches), and height (57.7 inches) are all within an inch of the Chrysler 300’s measurements. On paper, the 300 has a slightly roomier back seat, but the G8’s 17.5-cubic-foot trunk trumps the DCX boys by more than a cube.

On paper it’s a good match-up, but does it have the looks to go after the segment’s pretty boys?

Dimensionally, the G8 is locked onto the Chrysler and the Dodge, but stylistically it takes a much different approach. Whereas the DCX cars are characterized by high waistlines, tight greenhouses, and bold faces, the G8 gets the more conservative styling of the Holden Commodore sedan upon which it is based. There are no muscular fender bulges, just a flared stamping around the wheel well. An upright greenhouse doesn’t look as menacing as the 300’s broad shoulders, but will provide excellent visibility lacking in the Chrysler and is actually lower by a fraction of an inch.

The most exciting aspect of the G8’s styling is its divisive front end, which endows the otherwise characterless nose of the Commodore with a trio of split intakes stacked atop one another and bisected by a common tapered line. It is distinctively Pontiac, but not particularly attractive. More than one staffer here has drawn a comparison to the Dodge Caliber, particularly in SRT4 guise. Even so, this appears to be another competitive performance machine from Pontiac, and the company’s most exciting sedan in decades. We’ll just have to wait and see what the Poncho will do about those SRT8 cars.
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:29 PM   #24
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ok so lets bring the holden ute to the states to and get the el camino back in action. anyone agree with me on that move? i hear it is actually in the works.
Oh lordy I miss living in Sydney. This picture takes me back......
But I dont like it for here at home. I think I'm just used to seeing Texas sized trucks and suvs. Seems like it would be out of place. They had this commercial in Australia for the ute, it was driving down a deserted road and all these women were running after it like it was the last man on earth. Am I the only one that sees the humor in that?
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They had this commercial in Australia for the ute, it was driving down a deserted road and all these women were running after it like it was the last man on earth. Am I the only one that sees the humor in that?
The ute looks a bit "butch" to me, so it makes sense.

What bought you down under???
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