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Old 11-17-2009, 05:51 PM   #18
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I think someone is trying to describe allocation and constraints. I can tell you for certain the the SS's ordered this week will all be 2010 models. The SS production is still less than 100%, but they are still building them. Model year change won't be til summer some time.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:53 PM   #19
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They are only up in the 50,000 production mark. My vin is 52396 and it was built 10/2009. Don't they share some production w/ the corvette for the ls3? That could also hold things back if they use the same engine plant!

**OOPS*** Sorry missed that last post. Well they were at the 50K mark in Oct, hows that.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:06 PM   #20
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They will be building 2011's next july or so.

They cuirrently have 19000 cars as sold orders for 2010.. that are not built.

They are building around 480 cars a day six days a week.

Take out holidays....you do the math.


Your math doesn't add up.

Let's just take the six months from January through June (Nov and Dec will be used as holiday days). There are about 150 production days left.

Building 480 cars per day equals 72,000 cars possibly being built. Now there will probably be some parts shortages that will drop that number somewhat, but nowhere near the 19,000 you quote. Maybe 55,000 to 60,000.

Line changes for existing models (no die changes) usually take no time at all, but they will close the plant for two weeks probably around July 1 (Canada Day) to do the change over with 2011 models being produced the 3rd or 4th week of July and on lots in late August.
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Car #65513 was built and shipped the 11/10 So I'll start the math from the 11th Rounding up let's say 72 *Production Days*

Wednesday (11/11)
Thursday (11/12)
Friday (11/13)
Saturday (11/14) - 4 days

Monday (11/16) - 10 days

Monday (11/23) - 16 days

Monday (11/30) - 22 days

Monday (12/07) -28 days

Monday (12/14) - 34 days

Monday (12/21) - 40 days

Monday (12/28) - 46 days

Monday (1/4) - 52 days

Monday (1/11) - 58 days

Monday (1/18) - 64 days

Monday (1/25) - 70 days
Tuesday (1/26 - 71 days
Wednesday (1/27) - 72 days

That's with 100,000 cars being built, lets say 10 days off (work days) for Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years.

Monday (2/9) - 68 days
Tuesday (2/10) - 69 days
Wednesday (2/11) - 70 days
Thursday (2/12) - 71 days
Friday (2/13) - 72 days

So with that being said lets say a week to ship it (maybe a bit more) at the LATEST the last car should arrive at the dealership (that's estimating that they're only building 100,000 cars) by the end of February sometime, which seems to early to me.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:10 PM   #22
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Some people think the 2011 model starts in January.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:15 PM   #23
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Hey carguy why are you bailing? because it's been proven that your "source" is mathematically wrong? Lets think about this for a minute. Canada has already taken their thanksgiving break weeks ago and they do not get their Christmas break until the 1st week of January. The 19,000 preordered cars WILL be built before the end of December easily.

The 2011 model change over is not until the 1st week of July and they do not stop taking orders until mid May - first of June. This is how it has ALWAYS been and it WILL NOT be any different for the Camaro and sure as hell won't be different for the SS. So what you pretty much are saying is that "hey guys my moron for a source says that for 5 months after all of the current sold orders are filled you will not be able to buy a SS, which is the hottest car in North America and I'm stupid enough to believe him. But don't worry they will still be making the other trims."

Next time before you go making a doom and gloom post get your facts straight and while your at, the next time your "inside source" tries to tell you something, DON'T LISTEN TO HIM. How does that saying go?

It's best to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are a moron then open it and prove them correct.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:17 PM   #24
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I think what he may be saying is that there are 19000 sold v8's in the system. If you have to build X# of v6 cars compared to V8 cars, all of the v8 cars may be allocated for production 2010 models. Coupled with the production of the engine t support the vette, the system may not be set up to build any more orders for 2010 v8's until 2011 model initiates. All the possible production of 2010 V8 builds may currently be allocated.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:20 PM   #25
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Here we go again.

Some Dealer who is an Idiot tells some "friend" what he thinks is happening and could not be more wrong.

OP rushes on here to proclaim the facts with assurances that source is solid.

Poster gets flamed by others who call BS and poster says " only conversation" after a few hundred have read it and tell EVERYONE they know it must be true.!

Conversations about what was to be back in 07 or 08 are worthless. The projections were based on the way the car business was then..... It is a whole new world now.

The 2010 CAMARO will be in available for 2009 and more than 1/2 of 2010.

Find the right dealer and get what you want.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:22 PM   #26
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Car #65513 was built and shipped the 11/10 So I'll start the math from the 11th Rounding up let's say 72 *Production Days*

Wednesday (11/11)
Thursday (11/12)
Friday (11/13)
Saturday (11/14) - 4 days

Monday (11/15) - 10 days

Monday (11/22) - 16 days

Monday (11/29) - 22 days

Monday (12/6) -28 days

Monday (12/13) - 34 days

Monday (12/20) - 40 days

Monday (12/27) - 46 days

Monday (1/3) - 52 days

Monday (1/10) - 58 days

Monday (1/17) - 64 days

Monday (1/24) - 70 days

Monday (1/31) - 76 days

Monday (2/7) - 82 days

Monday (2/14) - 88 days

Monday (2/21) - 94 days

Monday (2/28) - 100 days

Monday (3/7) - 106 days

Monday (3/14) - 112 days

Monday (3/21) - 118 days

Monday (3/28) - 124 days

Monday (4/4) - 130 days

Monday (4/11) - 136 days

Monday (4/18) - 142 days

Monday (4/25) - 148 days

Monday (5/2) - 154 days

Monday (5/9) - 160 days

Monday (5/16) - 166 days

Monday (5/23) - 172 days

Monday (5/30) - 178 days

Monday (6/6) - 184 days

Monday (6/13) - 190 days

Monday (6/20) - 196 days

Monday (6/27) - 197 days
Tueday (6/28) - 198 days
Wednesday (6/29) - 199 days
Thursday (6/30) - 200 days - Last 2010 Production Day

200 x 480 is 96,000 more cars add that to 66,000 already built that's 162,000 cars, lets take off 12,000 cars divided by 480 cars a day that's 25 days (we'll take that off for holidays and such) so roughly 150,000 SHOULD/are going to be built by when they should change it to the 2011 model year.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:22 PM   #28
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my $.02 is this the ss was going to be the top of the line. now to keep the ss owners happy they are probably slowing production of the 2ss because that is what is selling the most compared to the other models. maybe GM was thinking the v6 was going to sell alot instead of the v8 . also GM released the camaro in 2009 as a 2010 model so they can produce the car longer and see how it does. no one know what is going to sell and what is not.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:37 PM   #31
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Some people think the 2011 model starts in January.
I think Ford is coming out with their 2011 in January and the 2012 in march... to try and keep interest up.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:39 PM   #32
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OK guys this sounds ridic. There is NO WAY on earth a car manufacturer like GM would stop making the 2010 SS Models this early. Think about it for a minute.

This not a Nissan GT-R where Nissan announced that they were only gonna produce 1500 of them, but this is a sports coupe planned for the masses.

AND GM is still in a loss as of yesterday's report, do you think really think they are gonna stop making production models of their hottest selling car???? A car that some say will revive GM out of the financial trouble they are in?

This probably means Contsraints and it could also mean that they wont be making anymore 2010 SS models this year, because they are at full capacity till year end. Sounds about right, if you order a car today, you probably will have it shipped early Jan!
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If you don't like the info or believe it or want to hear it move on or don't stop.

Simple as that. I have not changed anything Conversation is all it has been never stated anything for fact only from what I would coinsider a very reliable source, a plant super.

If you can do better than that bring it on or move on to something you do care about.

Why do I keep defending someone elses statement ? I am an Idiot

I don't need this usless BS

I have revealed my source super60. Call him a liar and see what you get...

Bet he knows more than U
Actually I got to talk to Bob Lutz (I think he's more "in the know" than super60, correct me if I am wrong) but he said they were going to build 2010 models until mid-2010 AND they knew they were building "at least 100,000" but probably more as the demand rises. Maybe your friend was talking about they're building 19,000 more until the end of the year? Or maybe 19,000 2SS models but either way your info is wrong.
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Super60... Where are you??

We just want it straight from the horses mouth...
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