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Old 08-06-2008, 07:21 PM   #451
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Z28 ........ Thoughts

Okay so we all know that there is NO Z28 Model camaro coming out. It's either LS,LT, or SS with RS packages available one some.

Now with that being said a Chevy turning ...... 100? In 2011. Do you think it's possible they could be holding off on the Z28 to make it a Anniversary edition camaro with some badass V8 that'll shame the other V8 cars?

I personally believe that this is the case behind no Z28 and the anniversary being so close they can smell it. If I'm wrong it won't be the first time lol. So jab away ladies and gents, I am very interested to see what other people think of this idea.

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Regardless of what he told you, i'd love the opportunity to ask him a question or ten. Must have been great to be able to speak your minds to Chevrolet brass. And as for the last 20 posts, no supercharger does not mean no Z/28!
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And no Z28 does not mean no supercharger

you're both right. and I'm with you both.

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Okay so we all know that there is NO Z28 Model camaro coming out. It's either LS,LT, or SS with RS packages available one some.

Now with that being said a Chevy turning ...... 100? In 2011. Do you think it's possible they could be holding off on the Z28 to make it a Anniversary edition camaro with some badass V8 that'll shame the other V8 cars?

I personally believe that this is the case behind no Z28 and the anniversary being so close they can smell it. If I'm wrong it won't be the first time lol. So jab away ladies and gents, I am very interested to see what other people think of this idea.

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I think they were just making the Z28 (if it's in prepro. . .which depending on who you ask it is) a limited production model. no one even thought for a second that whatever the top dog was would be out the SORP (start of regular production). but with the whole 2011 thing it's possible that it would be an anniversary edition. but I know that's not why it's not out yet. . .
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Okay so we all know that there is NO Z28 Model camaro coming out. It's either LS,LT, or SS with RS packages available one some.

Now with that being said a Chevy turning ...... 100? In 2011. Do you think it's possible they could be holding off on the Z28 to make it a Anniversary edition camaro with some badass V8 that'll shame the other V8 cars?

I personally believe that this is the case behind no Z28 and the anniversary being so close they can smell it. If I'm wrong it won't be the first time lol. So jab away ladies and gents, I am very interested to see what other people think of this idea.

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Ahhhh! See I didn't know any of that!
Makes total sense.

I predict a supercar hybrid! NOT JOKING! That's what they are saving it for!

When Ed was questioned about the Z28 he answered and went into the hybrid technology in common cars and possibly supercar applications part of the presentation.

Super high performance flagship automobile. Z28 that rules all. 800+hp an electric motor on each wheel and some awsome powerplant under the hood.
30+ mpg (40?)
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I do think a Z28 will be announced sometime in 2011 after the Camaro helps GM regain a lot of what its lost over the years... The sharing of technology with Ford is a good thing and will help the company lower R&R costs. I do see a Pontiac Firebird revival in a few years as well once the Camaro sales slow down.. 2013 perhaps... You can quote me on these predicitons in 4 years from now
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I'm still siding with passion as a good thing....

And in relation to posting up positive stuff and hoping GM see's it.

I have no clue why I was invited to an intimate round table meeting with Ed Welburn. I'm just a fanatic. (like yourselves I see)
And out of the blue....(to an e-mail address almost no-one on the planet knew i was involved in) I get the invite....It was way cooler then I ever expected....(I'm thinking college auditorium and thousands of nobodys)
and here's a room with ten people in it talking with ED WELBURN.....I'm not sure it's really sunk in YET!
I still wonder ... still no official statement ... why would I trust them? I mean, they are in an industry of sharks. I have no objective reason not to trust'em, but I have no reason to trust'em neither.

"keep the faith" ... well ... I'll do that ... until mid 2009 ... then, I'll go see if the grass is greener somewhere else ... somewhere supercharged
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you know what, nevermind... I'm done with this thread... its pointless.
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you know what, nevermind... I'm done with this thread... its pointless.
Well ... just like all and every single thread of this forum until the unveiling of official specs ...

Just take this thread for what it is: just a way to make Fbofather see the "word" "Z28" every time he comes on the forum ...

We (who am I to speak for the others????) just want to make potential GM people coming here know that there are potential buyers for a Z28, that there is a market for supercharged camaros, that we're quite a few to want something stronger than the SS.

I can't imagine to let it be and to make them think that we're all happy with the SS.

Oh, I'm not dreaming, I know it won't change a decision already taken, but I guess it's worth the try ... don't you?
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Well ... just like all and every single thread of this forum until the unveiling of official specs ...

Just take this thread for what it is: just a way to make Fbofather see the "word" "Z28" every time he comes on the forum ...

We (who am I to speak for the others????) just want to make potential GM people coming here know that there are potential buyers for a Z28, that there is a market for supercharged camaros, that we're quite a few to want something stronger than the SS.

I can't imagine to let it be and to make them think that we're all happy with the SS.

Oh, I'm not dreaming, I know it won't change a decision already taken, but I guess it's worth the try ... don't you?



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Well ... just like all and every single thread of this forum until the unveiling of official specs ...

Just take this thread for what it is: just a way to make Fbofather see the "word" "Z28" every time he comes on the forum ...

We (who am I to speak for the others????) just want to make potential GM people coming here know that there are potential buyers for a Z28, that there is a market for supercharged camaros, that we're quite a few to want something stronger than the SS.

I can't imagine to let it be and to make them think that we're all happy with the SS.

Oh, I'm not dreaming, I know it won't change a decision already taken, but I guess it's worth the try ... don't you?
the problem is, no matter what is said, no matter who says it (and that even includes the Fbodfather himself), someone out there is going to pretend like they know more than you do... and that's just annoying to me... because none, I repeat, NONE of the people who are on the Camaro or Z28 focus groups, design teams, brand managers, marketing managers or ANYONE related to the car has come in here and said, "the Z28 is dead"... not a ONE of them... and here we are still talking about speculation because someone had breakfast with a guy who could be being misquoted? we know the Z28 isn't slated for production yet, therefore there are no production "plans"... every single project at GM is being looked at and is potentially on the chopping block right now... we already know all about that, right? so why are we still talking about it? its pointless... its a waste of bandwidth... GM knows we want a Z28... they know it VERY well... the demand is outrageous... but this is neither the time nor the place to be hawking Magnuson superchargers just because someone misquoted a GM exec.

sorry for the rant, but this whole thread has gone completely awry and is just pointless now.
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the problem is, no matter what is said, no matter who says it (and that even includes the Fbodfather himself), someone out there is going to pretend like they know more than you do... and that's just annoying to me... because none, I repeat, NONE of the people who are on the Camaro or Z28 focus groups, design teams, brand managers, marketing managers or ANYONE related to the car has come in here and said, "the Z28 is dead"... not a ONE of them... and here we are still talking about speculation because someone had breakfast with a guy who could be being misquoted? we know the Z28 isn't slated for production yet, therefore there are no production "plans"... every single project at GM is being looked at and is potentially on the chopping block right now... we already know all about that, right? so why are we still talking about it? its pointless... its a waste of bandwidth... GM knows we want a Z28... they know it VERY well... the demand is outrageous... but this is neither the time nor the place to be hawking Magnuson superchargers just because someone misquoted a GM exec.

sorry for the rant, but this whole thread has gone completely awry and is just pointless now.

actually it's been pointless for a long time now. it's been none stop it's dead no it's not it's dead no it's not since july 21'st.
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Well ... just like all and every single thread of this forum until the unveiling of official specs ...

Just take this thread for what it is: just a way to make Fbofather see the "word" "Z28" every time he comes on the forum ...

We (who am I to speak for the others????) just want to make potential GM people coming here know that there are potential buyers for a Z28, that there is a market for supercharged camaros, that we're quite a few to want something stronger than the SS.

I can't imagine to let it be and to make them think that we're all happy with the SS.

Oh, I'm not dreaming, I know it won't change a decision already taken, but I guess it's worth the try ... don't you?


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I'm going to make this a new addition to my sig' if the Mods' are okay with it, LOL.

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the problem is, no matter what is said, no matter who says it (and that even includes the Fbodfather himself), someone out there is going to pretend like they know more than you do... and that's just annoying to me... because none, I repeat, NONE of the people who are on the Camaro or Z28 focus groups, design teams, brand managers, marketing managers or ANYONE related to the car has come in here and said, "the Z28 is dead"... not a ONE of them... and here we are still talking about speculation because someone had breakfast with a guy who could be being misquoted? we know the Z28 isn't slated for production yet, therefore there are no production "plans"... every single project at GM is being looked at and is potentially on the chopping block right now... we already know all about that, right? so why are we still talking about it? its pointless... its a waste of bandwidth... GM knows we want a Z28... they know it VERY well... the demand is outrageous... but this is neither the time nor the place to be hawking Magnuson superchargers just because someone misquoted a GM exec.

sorry for the rant, but this whole thread has gone completely awry and is just pointless now.
... but entertaining. After reading more comments from the poster you're referring to, I don't think it was posted with the intent some of us (i.e. me, specifically) may have taken it as. I believe he was trying to try to inform us of what was available out there through his experience, and I can appreciate that.

To address your last comment though, I agree that IMHO, it would be nice to stay focused on one topic in this thread. Regardless, we'll just have to keep up with all the new posts
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Thanks radz....you got me figured out.

The good news is...they ARE watching....





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The good news is...they ARE watching....






That's all I'm asking.
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Because this thread looks like 20 pages of mis-information up to this point.

I'm just trying to help you ALL get a handle on reality...

Be wishful if you want.

Gather facts in one hand and wish in the other. See which one produces a 600hp CamAro.

K, heres what i think. 1: Its Ed Welburn, the dude who wanted to see it again heck, he even owns one and I think even knows the true meaning of such a car. 2: No crap is he going to keep his mouth shut and IMO it seems like he would hide any info on any future camaro products. 3: Done.
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Once that's done....................
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The original Z/28 Camaro was a stripped-down lightweight model with less creature comfort equipment than the Camaro SS. And its 302 was the smallest V8 engine in any Camaro model back then. Maybe with gas prices and the economy both headed in the wrong direction, GM will return the Z/28 to its roots and make it lighter and with limited optional equipment and put their 260hp turbo 4-cylinder in it. Wouldn't that be something!
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The original Z/28 Camaro was a stripped-down lightweight model with less creature comfort equipment than the Camaro SS. And its 302 was the smallest V8 engine in any Camaro model back then. Maybe with gas prices and the economy both headed in the wrong direction, GM will return the Z/28 to its roots and make it lighter and with limited optional equipment and put their 260hp turbo 4-cylinder in it. Wouldn't that be something!
with hybrid tech at the wheels!!!!
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Just noting that the discussion regarding the Z28 has the most replies of any other topic or discussion right now.
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.....and put their 260hp turbo 4-cylinder in it. Wouldn't that be something!
Don't make me vomit! Go buy a Cobalt SS if you want something like that.
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The original Z/28 Camaro was a stripped-down lightweight model with less creature comfort equipment than the Camaro SS. And its 302 was the smallest V8 engine in any Camaro model back then. Maybe with gas prices and the economy both headed in the wrong direction, GM will return the Z/28 to its roots and make it lighter and with limited optional equipment and put their 260hp turbo 4-cylinder in it. Wouldn't that be something!
all I'm going to say is prepare to get flamed for that statement. everyone here that is a true enthusiast has already stated what the original Z was.

now to put a turbo 4 in it for those enthusiasts would be like dropping an import engine in a classic muscle car. it shouldn't be done for whatever reason. . .I'm sorry I respectfully disagree with how you view a Z28 should be brought back. and hope people aren't to hard on you for that statement. everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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