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Old 11-20-2009, 12:54 PM   #1
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NY Times Test Drives Volt

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SITTING behind the wheel of a 2011 Chevrolet Volt prototype on Wednesday, I found myself confronting what may be the greatest fear that future owners of electric vehicles will face: a battery-charge indicator showing just a few miles of remaining range.
I'm kinda pleasantly shocked to see the Volt so favorably compared to Tesla and BMW models. :-)
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:57 PM   #2
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I am not a fan of electric cars, but eventually, that's what we will be working with only.

I also hope they have fixed the fire issues with the Volt. I remember hearing when it first was in talks and what not, they started one, or were driving it, and it randomly caught on fire.
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I am not a fan of electric cars, but eventually, that's what we will be working with only.

I also hope they have fixed the fire issues with the Volt. I remember hearing when it first was in talks and what not, they started one, or were driving it, and it randomly caught on fire.
I've been following the Volt relatively closely and I've never heard that. But cars do ocasionally catch fire durring testing. A ZR1 turbocharged prototype was destroyed by a 'thermal event'.
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:55 AM   #4
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I've been following the Volt relatively closely and I've never heard that. But cars do ocasionally catch fire durring testing. A ZR1 turbocharged prototype was destroyed by a 'thermal event'.


There's a very, very large cap between prototype "issues" and actual production issues, if any. Thats the point of a prototype: its like the rough draft for a paper. Its going to have flaws, some of them rather serious. But you wouldn't submit it for publication either.
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P.S. - I also have never heard of any flaming volts, by the way.
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Can you imagine being the test drivers of one of those cars and it caught on fire? I'd be wearing a flame-suit in every test drive afterwards.
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anyway, that was a good article. Sounds like the only major bug they have left is the switch from EV to RE mode, which shouldn't be too hard. Start the generator, and then ramp up the throttle. As it is, it sounds like the generator has 3 settings: off, idle, full power. The trick is to do it fast enough to maintain efficiency yet not be too abrupt.
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anyway, that was a good article. Sounds like the only major bug they have left is the switch from EV to RE mode, which shouldn't be too hard. Start the generator, and then ramp up the throttle. As it is, it sounds like the generator has 3 settings: off, idle, full power. The trick is to do it fast enough to maintain efficiency yet not be too abrupt.
Yep - and that could also be aided by things like a more finalized exhaust for the generator and more sound dampening material.
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Old 11-23-2009, 07:41 AM   #8
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I am not a fan of electric cars, but eventually, that's what we will be working with only.

I also hope they have fixed the fire issues with the Volt. I remember hearing when it first was in talks and what not, they started one, or were driving it, and it randomly caught on fire.
Do you have a link? That's the first time I've ever heard of that.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:47 AM   #9
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I am not a fan of electric cars, but eventually, that's what we will be working with only.

I also hope they have fixed the fire issues with the Volt. I remember hearing when it first was in talks and what not, they started one, or were driving it, and it randomly caught on fire.
I would also like to see some evidence of this as well.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:14 AM   #10
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I don't have the link. I can't remember if I seen it on another car forum, on a reputable car site, or in a car magazine. I do remember it though.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:54 AM   #11
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I just did a Google search and...nothing.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:02 AM   #12
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I just did a Google search and...nothing.
Trust me lol, I did hear about it. I can not remember where I heard about it, but I did. It was something like an electrical fire or something. They planned on fixing the issue asap. If I feel like it, I will try finding it..
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:13 AM   #13
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Are you sure you weren't thinking about the EV-1s? Those had some fire problems.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:21 AM   #14
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I am not a fan of electric cars, but eventually, that's what we will be working with only.
What makes you say that? The Climate Change Alarmists suppfered a huge setback last week when some hacker published all their emails revealing an effort to distort the facts. This could put an end to their war on fossil fuels!
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:29 AM   #15
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What makes you say that? The Climate Change Alarmists suppfered a huge setback last week when some hacker published all their emails revealing an effort to distort the facts. This could put an end to their war on fossil fuels!
Sort of like any other political group that favors a particular motive? Just because climate change isn't as big of a deal as some make it out to be doesn't mean we should abandon all efforts of an electric car.

Think of it this way, the more A to B type people driving electric cars leaves more gas for the gearheads like us.
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:02 PM   #16
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I'm very pleased to read this. I'm very anxious to get some seat-time in a Volt....I know that'll be a long ways away...but I'm anxious anyways!
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I'm very pleased to read this. I'm very anxious to get some seat-time in a Volt....I know that'll be a long ways away...but I'm anxious anyways!
Same here, a nice Electric Blue one like Jolt in TF2!
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Anyone know its speculated price range? I might hold off on the Cobalt as a second car if I can get one of these for under $15,000.
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Anyone know its speculated price range? I might hold off on the Cobalt as a second car if I can get one of these for under $15,000.
$15k? I only wish.

The Volt is going to be expensive. It's the first of its kind. Expect starting MSRP at $40k with government tax rebates to bring it down around $32k. Once the technology becomes more common, the price will come down.
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$15k? I only wish.

The Volt is going to be expensive. It's the first of its kind. Expect starting MSRP at $40k with government tax rebates to bring it down around $32k. Once the technology becomes more common, the price will come down.
Screw that. COBALT FTW!
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Screw that. COBALT FTW!
Better get a Cobalt while there still is one! Cruze ftw!
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What makes you say that? The Climate Change Alarmists suppfered a huge setback last week when some hacker published all their emails revealing an effort to distort the facts. This could put an end to their war on fossil fuels!
The Volt isn't about combating climate change, at least not according to Lutz who's been spearheading the program. He wants to reduce Americas dependence on foreign oil (a view which GM probably shares, though would never admit). So whether you believe in saving the planet or want to be independent, the Volt helps.

One other really cool thing about the Volt is that future generations of Voltec drivetrains will probably be the first fuel cell cars that GM sells to the public. The conversion from a normal car to fuel cells is quite extensive, but with Voltec its just replacing the generator and swapping the fuel tank. All the drive components (and much of the power management system)remain unchanged.
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I am not a fan of electric cars, but eventually, that's what we will be working with only.

I also hope they have fixed the fire issues with the Volt. I remember hearing when it first was in talks and what not, they started one, or were driving it, and it randomly caught on fire.
Wow where did you come up with that? Someone close to me partly leads the Global Engineering, and this project is part of his oversight. This was never an issue, except when it first started some many years ago. The issue was with keeping the batteries cool, which was resolved in 2007.
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Wow where did you come up with that? Someone close to me partly leads the Global Engineering, and this project is part of his oversight. This was never an issue, except when it first started some many years ago. The issue was with keeping the batteries cool, which was resolved in 2007.
I heard something along the lines, of some kinda issue. Maybe it was the batteries, or maybe it was the v-1 or whatever someone else said.
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I heard something along the lines, of some kinda issue. Maybe it was the batteries, or maybe it was the v-1 or whatever someone else said.
I think I know what you're thinking of...Lutz mentioned batteries igniting under certain conditions WAY early on in the program. He was talking about it in the context of "yes, we're testing for that, and making sure the battery supplier is a good one so we don't get any of that".

The Volt's never been on fire....at least not by accident.
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