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Old 11-20-2009, 08:14 PM   #1
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Supercharger Installation

Trying to get some feedback on supercharger installation in the DMV area. I have received PM's from a few local shops like tandtperformance and Race Proven motorsports in DE to name a few and they are very helpful and have had nothing but good feedback from the shops but I would like to hear from some owners in the area that have added superchargers at local shops.

I am looking at the TVS2300 Maggie set-up and have been very impressed buy Livernois in MI. that offers a good price, and in some cases cheaper than the local shops I've heard from including the shipping costs.

I think the main reason I am leaning towards this shop is because of the overwhealming good responses I have heard from their customers on this forum about their builds and reputation.

I would like to have my car built locally for several reasons, i.e if something goes wrong it would be more conveinent to fix, local economy, helping smaller shops, but I haven't really heard any feedback from owners with this type of supercharger addition from local shops.

So please if there are owners out there that have added superchargers please give some feedback on your experencies with local shops and some idea of pricing.

I would prefer to have this work done locally but don't really want to gamble with a $7000-$8000 modification.

Thanks for your responses in advance.
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Old 11-20-2009, 08:37 PM   #2
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trsc1970 or Tim at T&T performance in Frederick. I met him at a meet and liked the work he had done on his camaro. To tell you the truth he probably has one of the few legit shops in the area that do work on cars hahaha. I think were supposed to have are December's meet at his shop you should come and check out his work.
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Old 11-20-2009, 08:55 PM   #3
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trsc1970 or Tim at T&T performance in Frederick. I met him at a meet and liked the work he had done on his camaro. To tell you the truth he probably has one of the few legit shops in the area that do work on cars hahaha. I think were supposed to have are December's meet at his shop you should come and check out his work.
Yeah I have spoken to them before regarding this issue and he invited me to the November open house but I could not make it. I will definitely try to get to the next open house.
But I still want to hear from owners that have used local shops for superchargers. I don't think these shops are out to rip me off but I need some first hand information on their work and track record from customers not just people from the shops.

Thanks for your feedback, are you thinking about this type of mod and looking at tandt?
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Personally I wont to forced induction so soon maybe later down the road, Im actually contemplating even modding the camaro as Im looking for a 5.0 foxbody to make into a drag car but If I do get exhaust and headers T&T is gonna do it for me.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:39 AM   #5
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Seen tandt work and it is very professional
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Old 11-21-2009, 10:57 AM   #6
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The installation isnt he part you need to really worry about its the TUNE. How many forced induction vehicles have these local shops tuned? We have tuned over 2k LSX vehicles with probably 800 of them being forced induction.
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Old 11-21-2009, 12:56 PM   #7
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The installation isnt he part you need to really worry about its the TUNE. How many forced induction vehicles have these local shops tuned? We have tuned over 2k LSX vehicles with probably 800 of them being forced induction.
That is exactly what I have been hearing from everyone; the install is very easy but the tune is everything! Since I am new to forced induction I know nothing about this stuff but that part seems common sense also.

I still am a bit concerned that I haven't heard from any actual owners that have had this type of work done by shops in this area. Is this something that people in the DMV are not big on adding S/C's or is it that they are not getting their cars done locally?

I got your PM Frans96ss and sent a response and I do plan on seeing your shop soon.
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Old 11-21-2009, 01:07 PM   #8
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That is exactly what I have been hearing from everyone; the install is very easy but the tune is everything! Since I am new to forced induction I know nothing about this stuff but that part seems common sense also.

I still am a bit concerned that I haven't heard from any actual owners that have had this type of work done by shops in this area. Is this something that people in the DMV are not big on adding S/C's or is it that they are not getting their cars done locally?

I got your PM Frans96ss and sent a response and I do plan on seeing your shop soon.

I went with Lingenfelter.
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Old 11-21-2009, 01:30 PM   #9
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I went with Lingenfelter.
Why them? Was it becasue you could not find a local shop to do your install that you trusted or got a good price from? Or maybe price was not an issue from you and you wanted what you considered the best.

Please let me know your reasoning?

Thanks for the feedback and I hope others will join you, you are the first person locally I have heard from with this modification....other than the 2 or 3that went with Livernois.
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Old 11-21-2009, 01:45 PM   #10
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Why them? Was it becasue you could not find a local shop to do your install that you trusted or got a good price from? Or maybe price was not an issue from you and you wanted what you considered the best.

Please let me know your reasoning?

Thanks for the feedback and I hope others will join you, you are the first person locally I have heard from with this modification....other than the 2 or 3that went with Livernois.
t and t will also do the tune.onsite dyno so you can see results
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Old 11-21-2009, 01:58 PM   #11
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t and t will also do the tune.onsite dyno so you can see results
Have they done this type of S/C installation work to your car? I see you have a 2010 camaro, what mods have you done?

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Old 11-21-2009, 02:46 PM   #12
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Having a SC done locally may sound like a good idea and I can just about guarantee it will be cheaper, But, what good is cheaper and having a shop close to do the work when you have to take it every couple of weeks, or more, to get re-tuned. A good tune job should last and there should be no reason to be going back for constant fixes. How much will you save if your car has to be tied up for two days while the guy tries to figure out what is wrong, especially if its your D&D. How much gas and excessive wear on your engine are you willing to put up with.
I have 3 places in mind where I am going to have the work done. The closet one is about 2.5 hours away I am getting a charger, exhaust and suspension work that will run me between 12 and $13,000, you might be only getting a charger done but the point is the same its a lot of money to give to the local and maybe very nice guy who said that he can do it for less and knows a buddy where he can get the dyno done. Take the time and just look at his place and decide if its a performance shop or a garage. Its more than if he'll get your seats dirty its how serious he takes his business. A good shop will not only be clean it will also be well equipped. There should be no reason to take your car anywhere else to have anything done including the tune and/or dyno. He should be willing, proud, to show you the different awards and trophies customers have give him for the great job he has done on their cars. Does you charger need to be installed by a certified tech in order to get the warranty. Speaking of warranty the minute he turns a nut to put on that charger he is voiding your GM warranty, so will he be willing to guarantee his work and any damage that might occur if something goes wrong. Remember if something should go wrong your not only talking about the charger you maybe face with a totally shot engine or computer. There is also the risk that it might brake down while you are driving it which may be a safety hazard.
I definitely agree its the tune that is by far the most important thing. Just about anybody can follow directions and put it together, its the art of the tune that will in the end putting that smile on your face. And yes it is an art that only comes from studying, training and experience, and that is what you are paying for. I buy a product based on research, and I am sure you did the same, so why not hire the person to do the work the same way.
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:09 PM   #13
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Having a SC done locally may sound like a good idea and I can just about guarantee it will be cheaper, But, what good is cheaper and having a shop close to do the work when you have to take it every couple of weeks, or more, to get re-tuned. A good tune job should last and there should be no reason to be going back for constant fixes. How much will you save if your car has to be tied up for two days while the guy tries to figure out what is wrong, especially if its your D&D. How much gas and excessive wear on your engine are you willing to put up with.
I have 3 places in mind where I am going to have the work done. The closet one is about 2.5 hours away I am getting a charger, exhaust and suspension work that will run me between 12 and $13,000, you might be only getting a charger done but the point is the same its a lot of money to give to the local and maybe very nice guy who said that he can do it for less and knows a buddy where he can get the dyno done. Take the time and just look at his place and decide if its a performance shop or a garage. Its more than if he'll get your seats dirty its how serious he takes his business. A good shop will not only be clean it will also be well equipped. There should be no reason to take your car anywhere else to have anything done including the tune and/or dyno. He should be willing, proud, to show you the different awards and trophies customers have give him for the great job he has done on their cars. Does you charger need to be installed by a certified tech in order to get the warranty. Speaking of warranty the minute he turns a nut to put on that charger he is voiding your GM warranty, so will he be willing to guarantee his work and any damage that might occur if something goes wrong. Remember if something should go wrong your not only talking about the charger you maybe face with a totally shot engine or computer. There is also the risk that it might brake down while you are driving it which may be a safety hazard.
I definitely agree its the tune that is by far the most important thing. Just about anybody can follow directions and put it together, its the art of the tune that will in the end putting that smile on your face. And yes it is an art that only comes from studying, training and experience, and that is what you are paying for. I buy a product based on research, and I am sure you did the same, so why not hire the person to do the work the same way.


I agree. We try to keep our shop cleaner than most dealerships. We wrap all the cars in pastic and if they are dirty we wash them before and after working on them. Here is a pic of our shop just so you get an idea.

jpetro you are not far from us at all. Feel free to stop by or give me a call if you are interested in having some work done.


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Old 11-21-2009, 10:37 PM   #14
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RPM is awesome. I would go back to them if i lived anywhere on the east coast. Fran and the guys know their stuff and they will be doing any kind of tune for the camaro ans also they did my GTO as well and are doing more work on it this winter. Best shop in my opinion anywhere around here. And its tax free..cant get anybetter than that.
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:17 PM   #15
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RPM is awesome. I would go back to them if i lived anywhere on the east coast. Fran and the guys know their stuff and they will be doing any kind of tune for the camaro ans also they did my GTO as well and are doing more work on it this winter. Best shop in my opinion anywhere around here. And its tax free..cant get anybetter than that.
Now that is the kind of response I wanted to hear regarding local shops from people who have used their services. Thank you very much for this input.

I actually have the exact same car as you and wondering what type of work are you thinking about having done with RPM? I want to have the TVS 2300 Maggie installed in the next few months and still on the fence about the shops in the area but testimonials from customers like you are what I am looking for regarding local shops.

Again thanks for the info and please everyone in the DMV keep the info coming regarding local S/C builds as I know I'm not the only one in the DMV wringing his hands about this stuff.
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:20 PM   #16
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RPM is awesome. I would go back to them if i lived anywhere on the east coast. Fran and the guys know their stuff and they will be doing any kind of tune for the camaro ans also they did my GTO as well and are doing more work on it this winter. Best shop in my opinion anywhere around here. And its tax free..cant get anybetter than that.
BTW whats faster your stock G8 or 2010 Camaro? Just wondering.
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Why them? Was it becasue you could not find a local shop to do your install that you trusted or got a good price from? Or maybe price was not an issue from you and you wanted what you considered the best.

Please let me know your reasoning?

Thanks for the feedback and I hope others will join you, you are the first person locally I have heard from with this modification....other than the 2 or 3that went with Livernois.
I chose Lingenfelter because of their great reputation from everyone I've spoken to here on the forums and at car shows/meets. They offer a great warranty and were super helpful and informative. A++ in my book. After speaking with Tim from tandt performance, they seem very good as well.
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:31 AM   #19
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I chose Lingenfelter because of their great reputation from everyone I've spoken to here on the forums and at car shows/meets. They offer a great warranty and were super helpful and informative. A++ in my book. After speaking with Tim from tandt performance, they seem very good as well.
Thanks for the info and I have heard that Lingenfelter is a great shop but a little out of my price range for just the TVS2300 with out any other mods. Good to know that you did speak with the local shops like tandt but ultimately I see you still choose to go out of state. Not sure what that says about the local shops though?
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Thanks for the info and I have heard that Lingenfelter is a great shop but a little out of my price range for just the TVS2300 with out any other mods. Good to know that you did speak with the local shops like tandt but ultimately I see you still choose to go out of state. Not sure what that says about the local shops though?
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I chose Lingenfelter before I met Tim in person
thank you for making that clear h3lljumper that we didnt talk about any work for you before you already had it done because we did meet till last weekend

here is a video of are 587 rwhp maggie, cai, headers, exhaust, cam , and tune we are also doing another package just like this for user (roc spo) right now if you wish to contact him to talk about why he went with are shop


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That is exactly what I have been hearing from everyone; the install is very easy but the tune is everything! Since I am new to forced induction I know nothing about this stuff but that part seems common sense also.

I still am a bit concerned that I haven't heard from any actual owners that have had this type of work done by shops in this area. Is this something that people in the DMV are not big on adding S/C's or is it that they are not getting their cars done locally?
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There is MUCH more to a quality installation than you may have been led to believe. Going to the SEMA show a few weeks ago and seeing all the Camaros on display, it was interesting to see the varying degree of quality in the installations. Really...

Of course, I am going to suggest contacting www.callawaycars.com for information about transforming your Camaro into a supercar - retaining value and a powertrain warranty on your car. Those are two things you risk losing with your local speed shop or backyard mechanic performing work on your car.

The Callaway Camaros are engineered as a package and seriously fast!

I hope this helps
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There is MUCH more to a quality installation than you may have been led to believe. Going to the SEMA show a few weeks ago and seeing all the Camaros on display, it was interesting to see the varying degree of quality in the installations. Really...

Of course, I am going to suggest contacting www.callawaycars.com for information about transforming your Camaro into a supercar - retaining value and a powertrain warranty on your car. Those are two things you risk losing with your local speed shop or backyard mechanic performing work on your car.

The Callaway Camaros are engineered as a package and seriously fast!

I hope this helps
Unfortunately I would need to sell one of my childred to afford the Callaway package and as much as I would like to have it I love my kids to much to give them up, there are very cute.

But thanks for the insight on the camaro build and I think I have found some good shops where I can at least purchase the extended powertrain warranty from Magnacharger or Vortech for some piece of mind, I'm don't really care about the re-sale value as this car will never leave my families possision.

If it's any consilation I do play with Calaway golf clubs.

Come on DMV camaro owners lets here from you regarding these types of superchargers mods that you have done locally. I think I have only heard of one person that has some type of S/C installed locally, there has to be more.....right?
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i am right out side dc i did a magna charger arh headers, ripshifter driveshaft shop hd axles and soon pedders rear bushing kit i did the install myself and used the base magnacharger tune to drive it to matt at tune time in toms river nj im not worried about a warrenty if i break some thing i will just upgrade it not to break id rather fix it myself than take it to the dealer for them to say they cant find the problem also i know if 8 bolts came out that 8 bolts went back in
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