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Old 07-22-2008, 03:29 PM   #1
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Camaro does the Nurburgring test track in 8:20

From Edmunds Inside Line.............but it's only 4 seconds faster than a Subraru Impreza!!!!

Doug Houlihan, GM's chief engineer for global rear-wheel-drive vehicles (the architecture underneath the Camaro, the Pontiac G8 and all that blowsy, big-V8 Holden stuff from Australia, where the platform originates), coughed it right up: A Camaro SS ran the Nürburgring in 8:20.

A quick scan of an authoritative listing (it definitely looks authoritative, anyway) of Nürburgring lap times at supercars.net shows cars posting a lap time of 8:20 include the E36-generation BMW M3 in 1999, the Porsche 911 GT3 (993 generation) in the same year driven by 'Ring ace Walter Roehrl and stuff like the Audi RS6 in 2001. For a little extra perspective on that 8:20 lap time, GM recently boasted the coming '09 Corvette ZR1 did it in 7:26.4.

"We learned a few things," from the 'Ring session, says Houlihan, which led the Camaro development team to tire supplier Pirelli for some subtle changes that he says fine-tuned steering response and turn-in, and also resulted in some nitty-gritty tweaks for suspension settings — all of which will further improve the Camaro's on-road handling.

Houlihan also said all Camaros — V8 or V6 — will feature the best StabiliTrak stability control system GM can offer; the SS enjoys essentially the software from the Corvette's magnificent Active Handling system that we insist remains the world standard in performance-oriented stability control. The Camaro SS stability control will have a track mode, a performance mode and a setting that fully disables stability and traction control. Stability/traction control for all Camaros can be fully disabled, but Camaro SSs with the six-speed manual also get a launch control feature.

Houlihan also said the 2010 Camaro's coefficient of drag is an OK, but unremarkable 0.35 for the SS and 0.36 for the LS/LT V6 models. Ed Welburn, GM's vice president of global design, said it's tough to get super-slippery aero numbers for cars with full-width grilles and recessed headlights — design cues Welburn and his styling team insisted on, obviously, to deliver on the 2010 Camaro's retro promise.

We whined the RS appearance package that adds high-intensity discharge, "halo ring" headlamps, unique tail lamps, a rear spoiler and 20-inch wheels makes it almost impossible to distinguish a V8-packing Camaro from a V6 job. But for those of you who can spot the difference of an inch, Houlihan says there's one giveaway: the exhaust tips for the Camaro SS, which is V8 only, are 96mm (3.7 inches) in diameter. But LT Camaros (standard 3.6-liter V6) — even with the RS package — have exhaust tips that are just 3 inches in diameter.

What this means to you: The Nürburgring number proves even if it's a little heavy, a Camaro SS can run with some pretty exclusive company. And with 300 horsepower, the Camaro V6 doesn't exactly earn the "secretary car" stereotype, either. — Bill Visnic, Senior Editor, Edmunds AutoObserver
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:36 PM   #2
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I'd love to see the numbers on the v6. But I admit theres probably not much chance of that.
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:45 PM   #3
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whats the mustang run at Nürburgring?
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:52 PM   #4
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^^^ that would def. be something worth looking up!
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:56 PM   #5
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My guess is the GT, isn't too close to that time. GT500??? Different story.

I don't think Ford tests there. They may not have numbers for the Ring
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:02 PM   #6
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8:20 is pretty good. The CTS-V with the LSA cracked into the 7:59's...which was incredible. If you take into account the power to weight ratio of the SS in comparison, 8:20 is about right.

You could also expect at 3950lbs that the Z28 would break into the 7's.
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:03 PM   #7
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Thanks, now where is my grain of salt? No but I would like to know the official times for the Camaro and it's rivals.
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:12 PM   #8
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I guess this is good, I say that because I wish I could see more cars that got around that time.

Yeah, what does the Mustang GT do there?
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:18 PM   #9
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whats the mustang run at Nürburgring?
There is no time listed for Gt500 or Mustang..and I've never heard of them testing either out there...............but still the ZR1 does 7:26...I would hope around 8 for the SS.......
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:19 PM   #10
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But that is asking alot considering most super-cars are doing high 7's
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:22 PM   #11
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only out did the cobalt ss by 2 seconds :( thats disapointing, shows how well the cobalt handles. i'm glad i have one even though its the supercharged one, i'm sure it got similar time. but camaro handling as good as an e46 m3 is sweet.
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I think around 8 would make since for the top dog, but 8:20 is starting to look slow for the v8 - the Cobalt SS TC did it in 8:22 and it does 0-60 in 5.7 seconds. On 89 octane I'd expect the v6 to hit 60 in 5.5 or so (the caddy does it in 6 flat on 89, if I remember correctly) which would make sense for those times. For the v8 it seems a bit slow.
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8:22.85 147.49 km/h -- Chevrolet Cobalt SS, 260 PS/1349 kg, company test driver John Heinricy
8:31.--- 145.13 km/h -- 2006 CADILLAC STS-V, 440PS/1948 kg,
8:43.52 - 141.55 km/h -- Chevrolet HHR SS, 260 PS/1488 kg (Windng Road 02/08)
8:51* -- 139.66 km/h -- Ford Focus ST, 225 PS/1330 kg (sport auto 09/05) (*mfr.)

cars within 2 seconds...
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h -- BMW Z8, 400PS/1651 kg (sport auto 08/00)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/2003)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/97)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h -- Maserati GranSport, 400 PS/1672 kg (sport auto 09/05)
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h -- Audi RS6, 400 PS/ 1815 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h -- BMW M3 E36, 321 PS (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h -- 2008 Honda NSX, 500 PS/??? kg, http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/225863/
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h -- Porche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99)
8:22 --- 147.75 km/h -- BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 --- 147.75 km/h -- BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 --- 147.75 km/h -- Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004)
8:22.38 147.62 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion") http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_wcOnPkxk

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I'm betting they'll take the Camaro back after they make some changes...

My guess is it will be closer to 8 flat than 8:20.
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:33 PM   #15
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This is one of the most complete list I've seen....NO challenger

6:55* -- 178.699 km/h -- Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (sep,28 05), (*street-legal only in the UK)
7:11* -- 172.07 km/h -- McLaren F1 #LMXP1 (Promotional Car)
7:12* -- 171.67 km/h -- Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03) (*mfr.)
7:14.89 171.18 km/h – Donkervoort D8 270 RS, , 350 PS/600 kg, Michael Düchting (nov,6 05)
7:15.63 169.31 km/h -- Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, Patrick
7:18.01 170.24 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Duechting, sport auto 12/2004
7:19* -- 168.93 km/h -- Radical SR3 1500 Turbo, Phil Bennet (jun,15 03)
7:22.9 - 169.07 km/h -- Loaded BMW M3 CSL (tuned to GTR specs) ~600 PS, Richard Göransson (nov,5 07)
7:24* -- 169.65 km/h -- Lexus LF-A, 552 PS/??? kg *unofficial
7:26.4* 168.07 km/h -- Corvette ZR1, 620 PS/1519 kg *General Motors development engineer Jim Mero http://blog.gmnext.com/?p=194 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Z...4.htm?Ref=Blog
7:27.82 167.20 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, 641 PS/1230 kg, Marc Basseng (EVO #112)
7:28* -- 166.65 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, * company test driver Walther Roehrl (Autobild 07/04)
7:29* -- 164.68 km/h -- 2009 Nissan GT-R, ??? PS/??? kg, *company test
7:31 --- 164.38 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1440 kg, company test
7:32* -- 164.07 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/1230 kg (*mfr.)
7:32* -- 164.07 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.)
7:32.18 164.07 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test
7:32.44 163.91 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time
7:32.52 163.88 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg, Horst von Saurma
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1497 kg (sport auto 11/07)
7:34 --- 163.59 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto oct,17-18 05)
7:35* -- 162.86 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg (*mfr. estimation)
7:35 --- 162.86 km/h -- Ruf Rt12, 650 PS/1573 kg (sport auto 01(08)
7:36 --- 162.63 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (02)
7:36 --- 162.63 km/h -- Mercedes SL 63 AMG Black Series
7:37* -- 162.28 km/h -- Honda NSX test mule, 550 PS *
7:38* -- 161.63 km/h -- Mercedes SLR 722 GT, *company test driver Chris Goodwin produkte
7.38* -- 161.63 km/h -- Nissan R35 GT-R, *company test driver Suzuki,
7.39 --- 161.58 km/h -- Ferrari 430 Scuderia, 510 PS/1402 kg (sport auto 07/08)
7.39* -- 161.58 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:39 --- 161.58 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg
7.39 --- 161.58 km/h -- TechArt GT street (based on 997 Turbo) 620 PS/1552 kg (sport auto 10/07)
7:39.39 161.219 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Röhrl (AutoBild 02/06)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h – Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1655 kg (AutoBild sportscars 01/07) *mfr., company test driver Giorgio Sanna
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Mercedes Benz CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1690 kg, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 03/06)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR, Klaus Ludwig
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1495 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/ ??? kg, Michelin Cup Sport tyres (Motortrend)
7:41 --- 160.87 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/04)
7:42* -- 160.52 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h –- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02)
7:42.9 - 160.21 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 500 PS/1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05) http://www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y...ID=1384471&l=d
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h -- TechArt Porsche GT Street (based on 996 GT2) 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/02)
7:43.5 - 160,00 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:44* -- 159.83 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg *company chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno
7:44 --- 159.83 km/h -- Pagani Zonda C12 S, 555 PS/1388 kg (sport auto 07/02)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal, slicks)(*mfr.)
7:45 --- 159.48 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600 PS (00)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h -- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1760 kg (*mfr.)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h -- McLaren F1
7:45*-- 159.48 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/ 1424 kg, works driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h -- Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine 07/00),
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1528 kg (sport auto 09/07)
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h -- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652 PS (sport auto 99)
7:46.29 159.14 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1500 kg (Auto Italy 09/07)
7:47 --- 158.80 km/h –- Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, 620 PS/1805 kg (sport auto 01/07)
7:47 --- 158.80 km/h –- Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1748 kg (sport auto 08/07)
7:47* -- 158.80 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/ 1440 kg, works driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:48 --- 158.46 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1424 kg (sport auto 03/07)
7:48 --- 158.46 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg (sport auto 07/06)
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 512 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 06/07)
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h –- BMW X5 Le Mans, 700 PS/~2000 kg, Hans-Joachim Stuck
7.49 --- 158.12 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3, 392 PS (AutoBild 2004)
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/99)
7:49.72 157.89 km/h -- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (93) (moto bike)
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03)
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/02)
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 480 PS/1750 kg, Horst von Saurma, partially wet track (sport auto 12/07)
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h -- 2009 Porsche Carrera S (PDK, PASM, sport tyres)
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h -- Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (sport auto 95)
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-gear, 493 PS/1496 kg (sport auto 12/03)
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/04)
7:52.84 - 157.09 km/h -- Ruf Turbo Rt 600, 600 PS/1656 kg (AutoBild sportscars 08/08)
7:54 --- 156.46 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/05)
7:54 --- 156.46 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 06/07)
7:54 --- 156.46 km/h -- Porsche 993 GT3, 360 PS/1380 kg (sport auto 06/03)
7:55* -- 156.13 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal)(*mfr.)
7:55 --- 156.13 km/h -- Caterham R500 Superlight, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/00)
7:55 --- 156.13 km/h – Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06)
7:55 --- 156.17 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg
7:56 --- 155.80 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)
7:56 --- 155.80 km/h -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)
7:56* - 155.80 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z06 ,company chief engineer Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:56.50 155.60 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 02/06)
7:56.65 155.57 km/h – Lamborghini Gallardo SE, 520 PS/1560 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06)
7:56.73* 155.57 km/h Honda NSX-R (*Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion", lap not complete)
7:57 --- 155.48 km/h -- AC Schnitzer Tension, 552 PS/1797 kg (sport auto 04/07)
7:57 --- 155.47 km/h -- Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600 PS/1558 kg (sport auto 05/98)
7:57.46 -- 155.47 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4, 560 PS/1456 kg (AutoBild sportscars 08/08)
7:58 --- 156.66 km/h -- Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05)
7:58 --- 156.66 km/h -- 2009 Porsche Carrera S (manual transmission)
7:59 --- 154.82 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59* -- 154.82 km/h -- Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59* -- 154.82 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R (*free of the speed limiter standard on UK versions, so it was discounted)
7:59.22 154.70 km/h - Cadillac CTS-V, 550 PS/??? kg, *mfr. http://cadillac.gmblogs.com/2008/05/...urburgrin.html
7:59.41 154.69 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi spec.C "prototype" (2004)
8:01.72 153.98 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:01.84 153.98 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder, 520 PS/1760 kg
8:02 --- 153.86 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Sport”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 04)
8:03 --- 153.54 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Pirelli P Zero Corsa (sport auto 10/05)
8:03 --- 153.54 km/h -- Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99)
8:03.86 153.52 km/h -- Honda NSX
8:04 --- 153.22 km/h -- Audi R8, 420 PS/1595 kg (sport auto 07/07)
8:04 --- 153.22 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/00)
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- BMW M3, 420 PS/1608 kg (sport auto 12/07)
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1745 kg (sport auto 03/08)
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/02)
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM settino “Standard”, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05),
8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Ruf CTR
8:06 --- 152.59 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/02)
8:06.01 152.59 km/h -- Subaru WRX Sti C-spec (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:06.2 - 152.59 km/h -- Caterham Superlight R http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/
8:07 --- 152.28 km/h -- Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 PS/1724 kg (sport auto 06/98)
8:07.76 152.04 km/h -- BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg, Prinz Luitpold von Bayern (AutoBild 02/06)
8:08.62 151.77 km/h -- HGP Golf R32 Turbo Stufe 3, 495 PS/1660 kg
8:08.73 151.88 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo 8:09 --- 151.66 km/h – Audi RS4, 420 PS/1728 kg (sport auto 06/06)
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h -- BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg (sport auto 12/05)
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h -- Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/02)
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/99)
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/97)
8:10 --- 151.35 km/h -- Alpina B6 S, 530 PS/1815 kg (sport auto 05/08)
8:10 --- 151.35 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage (Top Gear 02/05)
8:10 --- 151.35 km/h -- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/97)
8:10 --- 151.35 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 180R, 210 PS/650 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:10.75 151.27 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi Version III sedan (1996)
8:11 --- 151,27 km/h -- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)
8:11* -- 151,27 km/h -- Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/05)
8:11.1 - 151,274 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Sypder E-gear (AutoBild sportscars 11/07)
8:12 --- 150.73 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/02)
8:12 --- 150.73 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/97)
8:12 --- 150.73 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo works tuning (sport auto 06/97)
8:12.62 - 150.61 km/h -- Honda CBR 1000 RR Fireblade, 172 PS/205 kg,
8:12.8 - 150.43 km/h – Porsche 997 Turbo convertible (AutoBild sportscars11/08)
8:13 --- 150.43 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Bridgestone Potenza RE 50 (sport auto 10/05)
8:13 --- 150.43 km/h -- BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/04)
8:13 --- 150.43 km/h -- Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS/1324 kg (sport auto 05/99)
8:13 --- 150.43 km/h -- Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 hp (sport auto, 10/04)
8:14 --- 150.12 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series, 400 PS/1506 kg (sport auto 08/07)
8:14 --- 150.12 km/h -- Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/05)
8:14 --- 150.12 km/h -- Steinmetz Opel Astra OPC, 285 PS/1418 kg (sport auto Tuning 07),
8:14.98 149.824 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma Evo VIII GSR MR 8 (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h –- BMW Z4 M Roadster, 343 PS/1485 kg,
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h -- Alpina Roadster S, 300 PS/1416 kg (sport auto 6/05),
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h -- Corvette C6, 404 PS/1491 kg (sport auto 08/05)
8:15* -- 149.82 km/h -- Holden GTS (00), *estimated
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera 2, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:15 --- 149.82 km/h -- Ruf 911 CTR II, 520 PS
8:16 --- 149.52 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 PS (sport auto 11/97)
8:16 --- 149.52 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer V8 Topster, 450 PS/1557kg (sport auto 01/05)
8:16 --- 149.52 km/h -- Aston Martin DB9, 457hp (sport auto 11/04)
8:16.09 149.41 km/h -- Zender A3 Sportback Z440 R, 440 PS/1690 kg,
8:16.15 149.48 km/h -- Honda NSX (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:16.52 149.22 km/h -- BMW M6 convertible, 507 PS/2015 kg,
8:17 --- 149.22 km/h -- Aston Martin V12 Vanquish, 515 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 01/03)
8:17 --- 149.22 km/h -- Porsche 911 Carrera, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 06/01)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h -- BMW Z8, 400PS/1651 kg (sport auto 08/00)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/2003)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/97)
8:18 --- 149.92 km/h -- Maserati GranSport, 400 PS/1672 kg (sport auto 09/05)
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h -- Audi RS6, 400 PS/ 1815 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h -- BMW M3 E36, 321 PS (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h -- 2008 Honda NSX, 500 PS/??? kg,
8:20 --- 148.32 km/h -- Porche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99)
8:22 --- 147.75 km/h -- BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 --- 147.75 km/h -- BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 --- 147.75 km/h -- Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004)
8:22.38 147.62 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R
8:22.85 147.49 km/h -- Chevrolet Cobalt SS, 260 PS/1349 kg, company test driver John Heinricy http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=0&tID=153640
8:23 --- 147.44 km/h -- Aston Martin DB7 GT, 442 PS/1833 kg (sport auto 07/03)
8:23 --- 147.44 km/h -- Porsche Boxster S, 280 PS/1426 kg (sport auto 04/06)
8:23 --- 147.44 km/h -- Porsche 996 Carrera 4, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 01/02)
8:24 --- 147.14 km/h -- Audi S5, 354 PS/1718 kg (sport auto 01/08)
8:24 --- 147.14 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG, 360 PS/1566 kg (sport auto 04/05)
8:24 --- 147.14 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (sport auto 05/04)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h -- Audi RS4, 375 PS/1675 kg (sport auto 10/00)
8:25* -- 146.85 km/h –- 2007 BMW M5 Touring, 507 PS (*mfr.)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h -- Corvette Callaway C12, 400 PS/1564 kg (sport auto 04/99)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h –- Jaguar XKR, 612 PS/2835 kg
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h –- Lotus Exige S, 243 PS/940 kg (sport auto 06/08)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h –- Maybach 57 S, 612 PS/2835 kg
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VI, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 11/99)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VII (sport auto 11/02)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h –- Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1412 kg (sport auto 11/06)
8:25 --- 146.85 km/h –- Porsche 911 ST, Michael Eschmann, fastest car at Oldtmer Grand Prix
8:26 --- 146.56 km/h –- BMW 335i Coupé, 306 PS/1610 kg (sport auto 10/06)
8:26 --- 146.561 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG, 354 PS/1480 kg (sport auto 05/01)
8:26 --- 146.56 km/h -- Nissan 350Z, 280 PS/1526 kg (sport auto 10/03)
8:28 --- 145.98 km/h -- BMW E49 M5, 400PS/1833 kg (sport auto 03/99)
8:28 --- 145.98 km/h -- Nissan Skyline GTR, 277 PS
8:28 --- 145.98 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera 2, 285 PS/1452 kg (sport auto 01/98)
8:28 --- 145.98 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera Cabrio (sport auto 04/97)
8:28.1 - 145.98 km/h -- Nissan Skyline GTR
8:28.93 145.69 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX sedan (1992)
8:29 --- 145.69 km/h -- Audi S4 4.2 Avant, 344 PS/1826 kg (sport auto 11/03)
8:29 --- 145.69 km/h -- Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG, 347 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 05/00)
8:29 --- 145.69 km/h – MTM VW Golf V GTI, 272 PS/1437 kg (sport auto Tuning 07),
8:30 --- 145.41 km/h -- Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa, 320 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 10/02)
8:31.--- 145.13 km/h -- 2006 CADILLAC STS-V, 440PS/1948 kg,
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:33 PM   #16
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Also consider the Camaro is a million dollar test car, imagine having to call your boss and tell him you crashed the Camaro...it'll only get faster...guaranteed
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DANG!!!!! What in the heck is in that Colbalt!!!!
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:44 PM   #18
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The 260 hp turbo 4 that they considered putting in the camaro. The big thing is that it weighs 900 lbs less than the camaro v6, and over 1000 less than the v8.
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:52 PM   #19
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Houlihan also said the 2010 Camaro's coefficient of drag is an OK, but unremarkable 0.35 for the SS and 0.36 for the LS/LT V6 models. Ed Welburn, GM's vice president of global design, said it's tough to get super-slippery aero numbers for cars with full-width grilles and recessed headlights — design cues Welburn and his styling team insisted on, obviously, to deliver on the 2010 Camaro's retro promise.
Guess that puts to rest the notion that because the v8 has a wider mouth the drag coefficient would be worse
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I'm impressed but I expect it to get faster.
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I'm impressed but I expect it to get faster.
I agree, and I think with some fine tuning of the suspension and a different driver it will.
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I wondered what the CD number for the car is. But why can they get a lower number for a Cadillac?
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I wondered what the CD number for the car is. But why can they get a lower number for a Cadillac?
Perhaps due to the 550HP engine??
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Well I wouldn't be so hasty to can the driver, as above stated I doubt he was going all out on a car that isnt in production yet. On the drag coeff, I personally don't care that much about it as long as it is reasonable, which it is for me, and I would not sacrafice any cool exterior features to slightly improve this number.
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I wondered what the CD number for the car is. But why can they get a lower number for a Cadillac?
The 140 or so more supercharged hp that it has? I don't know how people think it would run in 8 or under.
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