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Old 11-24-2009, 12:47 AM   #1
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Old 11-24-2009, 01:51 AM   #2
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So, you should buy the worse car, according to the guy?
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Old 11-24-2009, 01:52 AM   #3
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So, you should buy the worse car, according to the guy?
You should buy the fun car with a personality.
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Old 11-24-2009, 01:57 AM   #4
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You should buy the fun car with a personality.
No offense, the zr1 is a great car, but that was a pretty lame argument put forth by the guy.
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Old 11-24-2009, 01:59 AM   #5
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No offense, the zr1 is a great car, but that was a pretty lame argument put forth by the guy.
Lame?
Why would you buy a car that is going to bore the hell out of you? Where is the fun in that?
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:02 AM   #6
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I would take the R8 hands down, yeah the ZR1 has more power but it still looks like a corvette (don't get me wrong it looks awesome)... most people wouldn't even know the difference between the C6 and ZR1. The R8 looks like a monster.
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:04 AM   #7
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Why would you buy a car that is going to bore the hell out of you? Where is the fun in that?
it has a lambo engine... I doubt it would bore the hell out of you
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:09 AM   #8
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it has a lambo engine... I doubt it would bore the hell out of you
You and I wouldn't know. Neither of us have ever driven both cars. He has.

Along with many other supercars.....
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it has a lambo engine... I doubt it would bore the hell out of you
Yes, exactly. This is why I sometimes don't buy into magazine articles, they make the oddest arguments, as if somebody is going to get bored with the r8. That doesn't even make sense. He gets more excited by the zr1 because he loses control more often, and I think that's terrible logic.
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You and I wouldn't know. Neither of us have ever driven both cars. He has.

Along with many other supercars.....
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:14 AM   #11
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That guy hates pretty much anything American made cars. But just like anyone not from the US, they love our way of life but they hate us for who we are. Trust me, it sounds weird but that how they view us.
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:32 AM   #12
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I'd take the R8, much prettier and much more practical. I love the ZR1 but I'm not yet a good enough driver to handle a car so eager to kill me.
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i have a 79 vette with a 400ci.....and you havent lived life until you go sideways in a corvette.
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Old 11-24-2009, 05:45 AM   #14
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I'd take the R8, much prettier and much more practical. I love the ZR1 but I'm not yet a good enough driver to handle a car so eager to kill me.

Reminds me of a ride in a Viper a friend had. He was a terrible driver and it showed in about 2 mins and a fast curve. Last ride I went with him but somehow he hasn't killed himself yet.
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That guy hates pretty much anything American made cars. But just like anyone not from the US, they love our way of life but they hate us for who we are. Trust me, it sounds weird but that how they view us.
Jeremy clarkson called the ZR1 the 2008 car of the year he loved it so much
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Clarkson generally has a lead foot and takes what power a car can give. Its the reason the Stig was able to make the ZR1 faster than the R8(and on the board, faster than the McLaren SLR). R8 for those that want to be driven, the ZR1 for those that want to drive. At least thats my conclusion from that review. Hammond probably could have driven better than Clarkson if given a chance in the ZR1.

Clarkson doesn't hate all things American; he owns a Ford GT. He did sell it so he could move it up the Cool Wall, but bought it back after a month.

Them loving our way of life but hating us comes down to simple(but sometimes valid) stereotyping. They often bring up Vietnam. And then they ignore our efforts in WWII and believe they defeated the Germans single handedly. They also mention how we can't make a car that'll do anything besides a straight line and forget the ZR1's and Cobalt SS/TC's times at Nürburgring.

For how much Clarkson and May hate us, I still love them. Hammond all the more since he's actually open minded about the US.
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:33 PM   #17
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Maybe it's because of my location (gotta love South Florida) and how often I see cars like these, but I don't think the R8 is that much more impressive in person than a ZR-1. I'd take the ZR-1 over the R8 without thinking twice. I'm lucky enough to know someone who owns a black/black '09 ZR-1 and I have spent a few minutes in the passenger seat at full throttle and that thing is absolutely insane!

Oh yea, and Top Gear is awesome.
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:36 PM   #18
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Every time there's a thread on Top Gear, it's the same old crap.

Here's a Top Gear Top Tip for everyone here:

Top Gear is not a serious car show. It is an entertainment show where the props happen to be cars.

Clarkson says stuff for entertainment value. He makes fun of all nationalities (seriously, stop foaming at the mouth cause he made fun of America, laugh a little, and listen long enough to hear him make a World War 2 joke about a German car). Hell, he makes fun of British cars ("assembled by a couple of blokes from melted down toilet seats in a shed in Yorkshire"). He makes fun of stereotypes because it's freaking funny.

Clarkson declared the ZR1 car of the year...he does NOT hate that car. He is well on the record of liking the Viper as well. And the Ford GT, despite it not liking him back.
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I would take the R8 hands down, yeah the ZR1 has more power but it still looks like a corvette (don't get me wrong it looks awesome)... most people wouldn't even know the difference between the C6 and ZR1. The R8 looks like a monster.
And who can spot the difference between a regular R8 and one with a V10? The visual clues on a ZR1 (exposed carbon fibre and polycarbonate hood window) are a tad more obvious than replacing flat black accents with glossy ones or oval shaped exhaust tips instead of round. There's more differences on each car, but I'm sure you get the point. Park a ZR1 next to a base coupe and more people could tell the difference (and that its something special) than if there were a pair of R8's sitting side by side.

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Yes, exactly. This is why I sometimes don't buy into magazine articles, they make the oddest arguments, as if somebody is going to get bored with the r8. That doesn't even make sense. He gets more excited by the zr1 because he loses control more often, and I think that's terrible logic.
From what I saw he wasn't losing control. Is it harder? Yes. But that makes for a more rewarding driving experience. Going around a corner with the tail hanging out requires a great deal of control and is quite different than losing it in the corner. Compare how the two did in their timed lap (on a wet course which heavily favours the less powerful AWD car) and the ZR1 was still faster.
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:03 PM   #20
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I think I could spot the difference if they are still using the Gallardo V10 that was in the prototype. At least when it catches fire.

Please tell me they fixed that issue.
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:16 PM   #21
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Every time there's a thread on Top Gear, it's the same old crap.

Here's a Top Gear Top Tip for everyone here:

Top Gear is not a serious car show. It is an entertainment show where the props happen to be cars.

Clarkson says stuff for entertainment value. He makes fun of all nationalities (seriously, stop foaming at the mouth cause he made fun of America, laugh a little, and listen long enough to hear him make a World War 2 joke about a German car). Hell, he makes fun of British cars ("assembled by a couple of blokes from melted down toilet seats in a shed in Yorkshire"). He makes fun of stereotypes because it's freaking funny.

Clarkson declared the ZR1 car of the year...he does NOT hate that car. He is well on the record of liking the Viper as well. And the Ford GT, despite it not liking him back.
This is absolutely true. I think maybe people have seen too many vignettes and not full episodes. Also, they don't get into all the stats and crap like Motorweek does, they mention a few key items then they drive around pretty locations and wrap it up at a track. It's a travelogue for cars.
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:46 PM   #22
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i love how later on in the episode they build what is essentially a chevy volt and declare james may a genius for coming up with such a novel idea.

if it were up to me i would definitely get the Audi R8 V10 rather than the ZR1. considering if i had the money i would already have a Z06 and each one of the muscle cars already. i would need something that has the most marvelous interior ive seen in a 2 door supercar.
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The R8 is very pretty, but I'll take the ZR1 anyday
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Check out my rendering of an R8. Kinda crappy, it's my first one...

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