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Old 11-24-2009, 12:09 PM   #1
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4 The Captain: My Review of the new Cadillac SRX4 3.0L

(picture from Autoblog because my picture taken by Phone and in the Rain just looks SHITTY) :(

Yesterday and this morning I the 2010 SRX4 3.0L in Black because my dealer.. who has now merged his two Cadillac dealerships into one.. and killed off his GMC/Pontiac franchise... offered me a complete vehicle check-up and oil change and detailing on my V. Because it was gonna take them all day to get to me.. they gave me the SRX to drive.

I dropped my car off at 8AM.. and drove it all day yesterday and up until 11AM this morning. The interior is spectacular... but I do have one gripe... I can't figure out WHY... this vehicle got front Sonar and my CTS-V doesn't. Also.. more to the point... the Cupholder compartment should have a closure like the CTS. Other than that.. it's flawless.

BTW.. this vehicle handles magnificently... and absolutely KILLS all of the constant rants about how RWD is superior.


The REVIEW:

After an entire day with the new 2010 Cadillac SRX AWD 3.0L... I can honestly say that I am IN LOVE...
Like most things (people) we fall in love with.. they are never perfect. But the problems with the SRX are problems that are Optional in nature. By that.. I mean my biggest gripe with the SRX 3.0L is that I drove it 15 minutes after I stepped outta a 556HP Super Sedan. Had I actually gotten out of... say a 275HP Lexus CUV... then my disappointment with the 'quickness' of the Cadillac from 0-60 would be damn near moot. WHY?? Mostly because the differences only hurt the Cadillac there. The sheer handling ability of the SRX puts in easily in line with the BMW X5. The acceleration issue could be handles by what I see as what should be the STANDARD engine of the SRX... the 2.8L Turbo. In my mind.. GM just gave us the optional 3.0L engine first.

Funny thing is that the Dealership where I had to go also sells Jags along with Cadillacs. A woman who had brought here XF in for service due to dash lights not coming on says to me as the guy pulls up in this SRX loaner… “Now that’s a beautiful car. I hope they don’t give me the same loaner. I have a strong feeling I’ll be buying a Cadillac next go ‘round.”


Jump inside the new SRX and U suddenly feel like U have just sat in a perfectly contoured glove... specifically created to fit U. The vehicle is comfortable as hell. Seriously... the Driver's seat seemed to have a bit of the Recaro seating dynamic. Another thing U will notice immediately is that the Ultraview Sunroof is HUGE… like my CTS-V.. takes up the entire roof. And if U open it… Good LORD.. talk about a wide opening… U could fit four 21 year old “Girls gone Wild” showgirls in there and never have their sweet boobs touch the sides.


Push the Start button… and the vehicle fires up beautifully. Pull back into drive and U will notice that GM has created a car that resembles my wife’s Saab 9-3 in the Tranny Dept. This is the first Cadillac I have seen that actually has the Shifter Sport Mode position on the Left Side, and not moved towards the passenger to engage. I literally started off in SPORT mode.. and found myself in a situation where I genuinely found flaws of the 3.0L immediately. It runs better in Normal Mode in the 0-60 run… but once U are on the Highway or in need of passing on your favorite country stretch… Sport Mode is where U wanna be. It feels like U have suddenly awakened a V8 Powered sports sedan. It U will LOVE IT, and then realize… that if the 3.0L is this good on the road, the 3.6L would have been so much better. For the Lexus RX convert, Cadillac quite possible nailed it. It’s as smooth. It’s better looking. Its interior is of equal quality but better styled, and it actually HANDLES… WELL. An Acura MDX owner would not notice a thing in terms of acceleration.. .as I believe that the SRX and the MDX fall with the same times from start to merge speed. It's almost as if Cadillac benhmarked the BMW X5 for handling.. the Lexus RX for comfort... and the MDX for acceleration. My gripe is that it should not have catered to the whole market.. but just the EXCLUSIVE... namely people in the $45-60K range. But that is me being selfish.. and I would not want the rest of the possible buyers for this vehicle to be shunned by pricing. :unsure:

Even in the rain (as U can see I took the pics with my Smart Phone in the rain :wink: ), I had people gawking. At the office when I pulled in right next to an 2008 RX owned by a colleague, she was in awe, and I now have to swab the car down before I return it due to all her drool. :yup:

Bottom line.. the ride is TIGHT. Good Job Cadillac. Bring on the 2.8L Turbo and a 3.0L Turbo with 420HP and U can still keep the regular 3.0L and no one will notice that the 3.6L should have been the one. :happy:


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Thanks bud! I will agree with most of that from my test drive as well, except i can't comment on the "Normal" Trans mode. I only drove in "Sport" and "Sport: Tapshift", of which i can say, the sport mode shifts just about right where i want to when using tapshift mode. And it is a little "underpowered" compared to say... well, a 400 hp Camaro or something, but the suspension totally makes up for it!! It is so snappy and sporty in the corners i forgot all about the straight line speed!!

And i do have one on order... 3.0L (cuz i hate turbos) Premium AWD. Chrometech 20" 's in Carribean Blue Metallic. Just like my sig!
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Oh yea, and don't you just love the startup screen? That's what really sold it over the CTS for me (ok that and the CTS like handling with truck like height). That and you get NAV and 20" chrome rims and heated back seats for the same price as 18"s with no NAV on the CTS.

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Darn... I thought the topic was for me!
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Though i really wish there was an option for the ugly wood trim. At least the CTS has the option to not get it or so as you please. Wood = ugly... but i guess i'll have to live with it.
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Though i really wish there was an option for the ugly wood trim. At least the CTS has the option to not get it or so as you please. Wood = ugly... but i guess i'll have to live with it.
Is it REAL wood or plastiwood?
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It's real Sappele Pommele wood. I believe it is $460 for the option in the CTS.
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It's real Sappele Pommele wood. I believe it is $460 for the option in the CTS.
Real wood is okay by me. If it were plastic, I'd say it looked cheap. Up close you can tell the real thing. In pictures, it's not so easy.
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Thanks bud! I will agree with most of that from my test drive as well, except i can't comment on the "Normal" Trans mode. I only drove in "Sport" and "Sport: Tapshift", of which i can say, the sport mode shifts just about right where i want to when using tapshift mode. And it is a little "underpowered" compared to say... well, a 400 hp Camaro or something, but the suspension totally makes up for it!! It is so snappy and sporty in the corners i forgot all about the straight line speed!!

And i do have one on order... 3.0L (cuz i hate turbos) Premium AWD. Chrometech 20" 's in Carribean Blue Metallic. Just like my sig!

I think U will be fine with the 3.0L. The biggest issue I had with the 3.0L now that I think about it was the tranny. After a whole day of me driving it started to actually feel like it was syncing up with my driving style. Like most GM drivelines... the SRX's seems to adapt to the driver.

I would say that I drove the car a total of 300-400 miles yesterday and today. Bottom line is that once U get the stigma the media has created about it out of your head... and the vehicle adapts to your driving style, U will have a pretty nice runner. My wife said that she was fine with the 3.0L as well... especially considering her Saab requires premium and she is constantly jealous of my Tahoe and G6 only needing 87 Octane
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Though i really wish there was an option for the ugly wood trim. At least the CTS has the option to not get it or so as you please. Wood = ugly... but i guess i'll have to live with it.


the wood only adds to the premium feel IMO. I have considered changing out my V's trim for Wood.
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the wood only adds to the premium feel IMO. I have considered changing out my V's trim for Wood.
While I like wood trim when tastefully done, I much prefer piano black.
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While I like wood trim when tastefully done, I much prefer piano black.
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Dude I kno of people modding their 556HP LSA's to 600HP on a whim. Personally I'm actually cool with my stock HP.. but as an owner... it's nice to have choices, and as the HP example I just gave proves.. U can't satisfy everyone even when U give them way more than enuff
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I think the only mistake with that car is that it doesn't have the larger 3.6L engine. 265 hp is nice, but with over 2 tons of bulk to move it needs the torque that larger (or forced induction) engines provide.
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I'm actually torn between the SRX AWD and the Camaro for my next car. :-/. The Camaro is fun and sporty, but the SRX is a bit more economical for when I have to pack my sister's kids in the car, take long trips, etc.
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This is the only car in its class that looks good at all, and Cadillac did a great job with it. It looks perfect, and I'm sure it drives like a Cadillac. While I'm disappointed with the 3.0L engine choice, it is clearly not built to race, making the decision a little more logical given that the engine is in production. Hopefully, GM will eventually reduce its number of active engines to the high-profile winners, like the LLT.
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I think the only mistake with that car is that it doesn't have the larger 3.6L engine. 265 hp is nice, but with over 2 tons of bulk to move it needs the torque that larger (or forced induction) engines provide.

Don't get me wrong.. The vehicle is definetly not slow. I seriously think that when the initial tests were done by Motor Trend and the like.. they were running PRE-PRODUCTION vehicles that were no tuned properly in the first place. WHY GM would allow such a thing is beyond me, but they did give MT a PRE-PROD SRX with ill fitting car pet and trim panels.. surely realizing that the writers at MT and such look for ANYTHING to be negative about.

What I was saying is that the vehicle would really be capable of allowing the owner to seriously see what that perfect suspension is capable of if it had the 304HP 3.6L under the hood.. or the 300HP 3.8L turbo as a base engine. I realize what GM was trying to achieve tho... considering the smaller displacement engines makes it easier to sell in Europe. The real issue is that this is not Europe.. and the 3.6L would have been a better choice to lead off than the 3.0L, which I think is a great engine for the lower brands, including Buick.. but not your Flagship Division. Despite Lexus, BMW, Benz, Audi, and even Porsche actually offering HP rating below 300HP.. I would love to see Cadillac offer not one vehicle with less than 300HP.

But then... my buying habits are not that of the general and mainstream buying public.
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the wood only adds to the premium feel IMO. I have considered changing out my V's trim for Wood.
Yea, but i'm 23. I like Carbon Fibre (even fake) better then wood.


And for the big engine sizes:
I hate to bring it up... but the US.'s CAFE regulations screwed everybody into getting smaller engines. It's only going to get worse too, most vehicles (like the previous SRX) had a V8 option. Not anymore. 35 US MPG by 2016 has to be the Average Fleet MPG rating. So say bye to big engines. Or you will just have to coin up and buy the 'Slade.
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Yea, but i'm 23. I like Carbon Fibre (even fake) better then wood.


And for the big engine sizes:
I hate to bring it up... but the US.'s CAFE regulations screwed everybody into getting smaller engines. It's only going to get worse too, most vehicles (like the previous SRX) had a V8 option. Not anymore. 35 US MPG by 2016 has to be the Average Fleet MPG rating. So say bye to big engines. Or you will just have to coin up and buy the 'Slade.
fake carbon fibre ... grumble grumble grumble... hrmf!
(I'm in the same age bracket as you by the way)

Anyhoo ... last I checked there were still plenty of loopholes left in CAFE, and large engines don't always mean more fuel consumption. Different average for trucks (which include crossovers as small as the HHR), boost in numbers for having a flex fuel vehicle, footprint (wheelbase x track width) based adjustment to allow larger vehicles to be less efficient and prevent an invasion of micro cars. Thats just of the top of my head.
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Yea, but i'm 23. I like Carbon Fibre (even fake) better then wood.


And for the big engine sizes:
I hate to bring it up... but the US.'s CAFE regulations screwed everybody into getting smaller engines. It's only going to get worse too, most vehicles (like the previous SRX) had a V8 option. Not anymore. 35 US MPG by 2016 has to be the Average Fleet MPG rating. So say bye to big engines. Or you will just have to coin up and buy the 'Slade.

I don't buy your explanation. Mostly because small engines don't always translate into good fuel economy. Look at Mitsu, Mazda, or even Nissan's small engines... their economy sucks. New technology will allow us to continue havingV8s and such. GM will probably debut GenV Small-Blocks with the XTS or C7 in a year or two. The SRX not having a V8 option this time around really boils down to the fact that most of it's competition only run with V6s. The exception being the X5 with it's 4.8L 350HP engine getting 14/19MPG... and of course the Benz ML with it's V8s. GM could easily turbo-charge the 3.0L/3.6L and get well beyond both of BMW's 4.8L and Benz's 5.5L.
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Interior and exterior wise, the car seems nice. Yet, a 265hp engine in a 5500lb truck is complete fail. Remember, this is Cadillac, the top of the line American car, it's meant to compete with Lexus/BMW/Audi/Infiniti/Mercedes, and that engine places it behind all of those cars.
As for the OP, sorry, but this car is not in the same class as the x5 v8, as it loses to the x5 v6.
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small engines don't always translate into good fuel economy.
Yup. For example, the 2.0L I4 in Honda S2000 gets 18 city/25 highway (same as the SRX). This is a tiny sub 3000 lb car with gearing that is hardly more aggressive than the Camaro. Just one example and possibly the most extreme, plenty of others out there as well.

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Interior and exterior wise, the car seems nice. Yet, a 265hp engine in a 5500lb truck is complete fail. Remember, this is Cadillac, the top of the line American car, it's meant to compete with Lexus/BMW/Audi/Infiniti/Mercedes, and that engine places it behind all of those cars.
As for the OP, sorry, but this car is not in the same class as the x5 v8, as it loses to the x5 v6.
It doesn't even come close to 5500 lbs. Heck, the AWD Escalade weighs 5700 lbs and that is a full size body on frame SUV. The SRX is a midisized crossover and weighs around 4200 lbs. Don't confuse gross vehicle weight rating with curb weight.

Also, you are right that its not in the same class as the X5. This is only a 5 seater, not 7. The closest competitor might be the Lexus RX 350.
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Interior and exterior wise, the car seems nice. Yet, a 265hp engine in a 5500lb truck is complete fail. Remember, this is Cadillac, the top of the line American car, it's meant to compete with Lexus/BMW/Audi/Infiniti/Mercedes, and that engine places it behind all of those cars.
As for the OP, sorry, but this car is not in the same class as the x5 v8, as it loses to the x5 v6.

First of all I would seriously prefer that U re-read what I typed. I said that the SRX competes well with the X5 in terms of HANDLING.. very well in fact. And altho I am not a fan of the 3.0L in this vehicle... it is still not a bad engine and performs adequate for a base engine. Once the 2.8L hits it will be a CHOICE for the buyer to have. This is something that Lexus, Audi, and Acura owners do not have. My true gripe is that the 2.8L was not the first engine to debut... with a more powerful engine to top off the range, leaving the 3.0L as a base engine for people who were not truly interested in ripping down the highway (yup.. they exist.. about 80% of buyers in fact), even tho... the 3.0L is fully capable of doing just that
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It doesn't even come close to 5500 lbs. Heck, the AWD Escalade weighs 5700 lbs and that is a full size body on frame SUV. The SRX is a midisized crossover and weighs around 4200 lbs. Don't confuse gross vehicle weight rating with curb weight.
YUP.. I forgot to address this in my response. Almost every one of the CUVs in this class carry similar weight due to them simply being LUXO. The SRX is certainly LUXO.
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It doesn't even come close to 5500 lbs. Heck, the AWD Escalade weighs 5700 lbs and that is a full size body on frame SUV. The SRX is a midisized crossover and weighs around 4200 lbs. Don't confuse gross vehicle weight rating with curb weight.
Whoops, my bad, I thought that was the curb weight. Disregard the whole engine comment of mine
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I had my fun for speed in the Cobalt SS SC. (250 kph anyone! ) Time for a luxo change with the SRX! And AWD handling that is close to on par with my SS SC is pretty amazing!!
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