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Old 11-26-2009, 08:44 AM   #1
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Last Pontiac

http://www.detnews.com/article/20091...nd-of-the-line

Last Pontiac...a G6 rolls off the line in Orion
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Old 11-26-2009, 08:47 AM   #2
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That is just sad.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:32 AM   #3
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:40 AM   #4
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I had a G6 the year they came out.. Great little car, very comfortable and durable. I sold it though just as the warranty expired for a new Jeep Grand Cherokee. I want to see a return of the Trans Am in the future..
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:45 AM   #5
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Well I have one of the last Sunfire Convertibles... there was only 3500 made in 2000.... I guess I will keep it for a while. especially since I sold my Sky.
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Old 11-26-2009, 01:48 PM   #6
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That's sad to see. I wished i could have gotten my hands on a Solstice Coupe GXP before they disappeared.
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Old 11-26-2009, 06:01 PM   #7
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Not quite the last Pontiac ... the G3 Wave ends production next month.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:05 PM   #8
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good riddance
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:25 PM   #9
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Should have been buick.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:37 PM   #10
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:52 PM   #11
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Yes it is good to see more US brands thats been around for so long get killed off
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:55 PM   #12
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We definitely need to have the Firebird come back. This really isn't a muscle car war without it lol.
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Old 11-27-2009, 12:10 AM   #13
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good riddance
They could have turned the brand around, and models like the G8 and Solstice were a step in the right direction. They got back towards the sporty image the brand once held. However, the G3 Wave was a big step back. People hate the Aveo ... who would buy one with a Pontiac nose and a better stereo?

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While Pontiac has sold more cars in North America than Buick has lately (last year it was 383k vs 154k) the global sales for each brand were 435k for Buick and ... 383k for Pontiac. Yep, in the rest of the world (China) there were 2 Buicks sold for every 1 here. For a bit of perspective, in 2008 Buick sold more than GM's bottom 5 (of 12) brands combined. On top of that, there is a much higher profit on each car, due to both entry lux pricing on Buick and massive (discounted) fleet sales for Pontiac. The business case for getting rid of Buick doesn't make any sense compared to ditching Pontiac.
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Old 11-27-2009, 12:37 AM   #14
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Ah yes now talk to the criminal business men.

Paying more for less.

Sounds like the new buick motto.

Its not pontiacs fault that GM ran them into the ground, nor olds, or whatever car manufacturer made awesome cars but got put to the wayside because GM was too shortsighted to move past cloning pieces of crap during the 80's and 90's and 00's.
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Old 11-27-2009, 01:15 AM   #15
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Ah yes now talk to the criminal business men.

Paying more for less.

Sounds like the new buick motto.

Its not pontiacs fault that GM ran them into the ground, nor olds, or whatever car manufacturer made awesome cars but got put to the wayside because GM was too shortsighted to move past cloning pieces of crap during the 80's and 90's and 00's.
Ah, ok. So Pontiac should have retained their independance from GM corporate. Have an independent design and engineering team dedicated to the brand. To do the exact same work that the folks at Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac, Holden, Opel, Saab, Daewoo, Saturn and any others that I have missed. Then they'd be profitable, as would all the other brands GM has around the world, right?

Regardless of what happened decades ago, GM had to act based on today. And as it sits, Buick provides a lot more return for GM than Pontiac does. I'd love it if Pontiac could have stuck around. I like the brand and I drive a Grand Am, not an Alero or Malibu because I prefer how this car was done over the other two.

To make Pontiac unique from Chevy would require either importing foreign cars, which isn't cheap and sometimes doesn't matter, having substantially different styling (more expensive), or having completely unique platforms (very expensive). Problem with that is Pontiacs can't cost much more than a comparable Chevy or too close to a similar Buick or Cadillac. It worked reasonably well for decades but the market became too crowded with brands like Nissan. Essentially they got squeezed out of the middle.
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I'd forgive GM if they brought some preformance into the buick lineup....

Wildcat, skylark, but not just some 'turbo 6' op.
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Old 11-27-2009, 01:47 AM   #17
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Yes it is good to see more lately shitty US brands thats been around for so long get killed off
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:59 AM   #18
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Old 11-27-2009, 03:04 AM   #19
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I'd forgive GM if they brought some preformance into the buick lineup....

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a tubro 6 wouldnt be bad. its like a modern thing to do anyways. plus it would be like the grand national. super bad ass.
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Wouldnt be bad, but there should be at least an 8 as well.
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Old 11-27-2009, 03:23 AM   #21
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Wouldnt be bad, but there should be at least an 8 as well.
for sure a v8. its like mandatory lol even the hyundai genesis has a v8. but was the g8 the only recent pontiac with a v8?
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Old 11-27-2009, 04:15 AM   #22
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