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Old 11-26-2009, 04:38 PM   #1
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American LeMans GT1 for 2010 Camaro 5th Gen

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Does anyone know if any of the racing teams involved in American LeMans Series (ALMS) Manufacturers GT1 Championship are presenting a 2010 Camaro?

My company is interested in getting involved with GT1 raciing. It would be great if you would provide us some feedback on your experiences or following of American LeMans and how we can get involved with sponsorship or a new Camaro or even a whole new team.

All the best,
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Hi All,
Does anyone know if any of the racing teams involved in American LeMans Series (ALMS) Manufacturers GT1 Championship are presenting a 2010 Camaro?

My company is interested in getting involved with GT1 raciing. It would be great if you would provide us some feedback on your experiences or following of American LeMans and how we can get involved with sponsorship or a new Camaro or even a whole new team.

All the best,
Jim
Jim, I'd be happy to put together a team with a 2010 Camaro if you're willing to throw enough money at it.



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I need a sponsor and already have a 2010 camaro. Doing a HPDE this weekend at Road atlanta.
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Let me know how you make out at the DE with your Camaro. Do you have any suspension work done?
I was at a HPDE a couple of weeks ago at New Jersey Motorsports Park in Millville NJ (not driving my Camaro, but another car) and a guy had a Camaro in one of the middle run groups. He did very well with a totally stock Camaro. He said the car felt good on the track but had a bit of understeer.

How about a nice KONI Challenge car?
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Hi All,
Does anyone know if any of the racing teams involved in American LeMans Series (ALMS) Manufacturers GT1 Championship are presenting a 2010 Camaro?

My company is interested in getting involved with GT1 raciing. It would be great if you would provide us some feedback on your experiences or following of American LeMans and how we can get involved with sponsorship or a new Camaro or even a whole new team.

All the best,
Jim
Hi Jim,

First things first. GT1 (in the US) is almost dead, the GT2 class is where everyone is racing, as well the factory backed Corvettes have gone to that class. In Europe the FIA GT Championship will all but replace GT1 for LeMans and so forth there as well. Also the Camaro unfortunately would be far outclassed in GT1 if that class even still existed. Either way if it was around it would be a poor place to start for someone new, as well as a poor place for the Camaro to run against cars like the Aston DBR9 and Maserati MC12.

So I am assuming you are looking to sponsor a team. Man I wish you were around about 3 years ago when I still had a current competition license and was looking for sponsorship. Its REALLY tough out there for young drivers. At this point I have not heard of anyone running GT2 with the Camaro, probably because the Corvette, Ferrari, and Porsche are all such viable and established options in that class. I'm sure it can be done, but at this point I believe Grand Am Koni Challenge is the only place with Camaro based teams for next year. Either way you would best be served contacting the sanctioning bodies

http://www.grand-am.com
http://www.americanlemans.com

They can point you in the right direction of teams that have petitioned for entry to the 2010 Season running a Camaro. Good luck and let me know if I can help any further.
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there will be Camaro's running in Koni and Stevenson Motorsports is running Camaros in Rolex Grand Am series next year. Think they're running a two car team as well. No Camaros in ALMS, probably too much drag, would be far out-classed even in GT2.
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oh, I heard Pratt & Miller is building them for Stevenson. I've also heard that Riley Technologies are building some.
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Hi Jim,

First things first. GT1 (in the US) is almost dead, the GT2 class is where everyone is racing, as well the factory backed Corvettes have gone to that class. In Europe the FIA GT Championship will all but replace GT1 for LeMans and so forth there as well. Also the Camaro unfortunately would be far outclassed in GT1 if that class even still existed. Either way if it was around it would be a poor place to start for someone new, as well as a poor place for the Camaro to run against cars like the Aston DBR9 and Maserati MC12.

So I am assuming you are looking to sponsor a team. Man I wish you were around about 3 years ago when I still had a current competition license and was looking for sponsorship. Its REALLY tough out there for young drivers. At this point I have not heard of anyone running GT2 with the Camaro, probably because the Corvette, Ferrari, and Porsche are all such viable and established options in that class. I'm sure it can be done, but at this point I believe Grand Am Koni Challenge is the only place with Camaro based teams for next year. Either way you would best be served contacting the sanctioning bodies

http://www.grand-am.com
http://www.americanlemans.com

They can point you in the right direction of teams that have petitioned for entry to the 2010 Season running a Camaro. Good luck and let me know if I can help any further.

RogueLeader,,, thanks for the detail and guidance. Yes, we are beginners at GT1/GT2 racing and not embarassed to admit it. We are looking for help. We saw what Compuware did with their sponsorship of a Corvette becoming the GT1 Champion at LeMans and would like to duplicate their performance. I was thinking that the new Camaro would be a lower cost racecar platform and one that GM might want to see us showcase... but, many on this thread are suggesting that it simply would not be competitive.

I will reach out to the sanchioning bodies as you suggest - thanks.

If you know of any young drivers (male or female) please let me know. We would love to find the next Danika Patrick.

Our group has been very successful with Formula One racing, however. Last year, with McClaren Racing and Vodofone, we introduced Lewis Hamilton as a new F1 Driver and he won the championship. There are some videos on our website - www.b1dms.com .

We want to do something exciting in the U.S.... with a U.S OEM manufacturer... preferably GM to help the company get back on track.

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RogueLeader,,, thanks for the detail and guidance. Yes, we are beginners at GT1/GT2 racing and not embarassed to admit it. We are looking for help. We saw what Compuware did with their sponsorship of a Corvette becoming the GT1 Champion at LeMans and would like to duplicate their performance. I was thinking that the new Camaro would be a lower cost racecar platform and one that GM might want to see us showcase... but, many on this thread are suggesting that it simply would not be competitive.

I will reach out to the sanchioning bodies as you suggest - thanks.

If you know of any young drivers (male or female) please let me know. We would love to find the next Danika Patrick.

Our group has been very successful with Formula One racing, however. Last year, with McClaren Racing and Vodofone, we introduced Lewis Hamilton as a new F1 Driver and he won the championship. There are some videos on our website - www.b1dms.com .

We want to do something exciting in the U.S.... with a U.S OEM manufacturer... preferably GM to help the company get back on track.

All the best,
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Thanks for your reply Jim,

Have you spoken to anyone at GM directly, I believe Fbodfather on our forum here could probably put you in touch with the right people. Unfortunately the Visualtech mockups show a Camaro built to a sort of GT1 or even JGTC spec which is far too modified for GT2 or Grand Am but I am sure you can find some direction to go with a certain team.

Scott Settlmeire (Fbodfather) would probably be the best place to start, I'm interested to see where this goes but I have to catch a flight to Arizona in a bit so I'll get back on Monday. Good Luck!
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Thanks for your reply Jim,

Have you spoken to anyone at GM directly, I believe Fbodfather on our forum here could probably put you in touch with the right people. Unfortunately the Visualtech mockups show a Camaro built to a sort of GT1 or even JGTC spec which is far too modified for GT2 or Grand Am but I am sure you can find some direction to go with a certain team.

Scott Settlmeire (Fbodfather) would probably be the best place to start, I'm interested to see where this goes but I have to catch a flight to Arizona in a bit so I'll get back on Monday. Good Luck!
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Thanks RougeLeader... I will try to contact (Fbodfather) via this Forum.
We are also reaching out to Todd Christensen who I understand is the Director of Chevy Racing at General Motors in Detroit. Do you, by chance, know of him?

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We are also reaching out to Todd Christensen who I understand is the Director of Chevy Racing at General Motors in Detroit. Do you, by chance, know of him?

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I've heard of him, but unfortunately I have no contact information, but I am sure Scott can get that to you. He I am sure could set you up nicely. I hope this works out, it is really nice to see a company actively looking to sponsor a fledgling team as racing is a really tough sport for the small guys to get any sort of start at without their own personal fortune.
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I've heard of him, but unfortunately I have no contact information, but I am sure Scott can get that to you. He I am sure could set you up nicely. I hope this works out, it is really nice to see a company actively looking to sponsor a fledgling team as racing is a really tough sport for the small guys to get any sort of start at without their own personal fortune.

Hey RougeLeader.... no luck getting through to FbodFather via the forum. Any other suggestions?

Also... I found one team and promoter in Portland, OR.... Cindi Lux Racing - do you know any other teams?

I also sent an email in to a guy named Todd Christensen who is supposed to be running Chevy Racing in Detroit, but... no answer from him either.

I'm finding that even though there is so much talk about teams needing Sponsors in these racing circuits that it's not easy to find anyone to discuss an investment.

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Hey RougeLeader.... no luck getting through to FbodFather via the forum. Any other suggestions?

Also... I found one team and promoter in Portland, OR.... Cindi Lux Racing - do you know any other teams?

I also sent an email in to a guy named Todd Christensen who is supposed to be running Chevy Racing in Detroit, but... no answer from him either.

I'm finding that even though there is so much talk about teams needing Sponsors in these racing circuits that it's not easy to find anyone to discuss an investment.

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Hm sometimes he is slow to respond he gets a lot of messages here but he will usually get back to you in a week or so at most. I will do some searching as well and see what I come up with and get back to you.
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GT1 is no more. The class was eliminated. It will still be contested in Europe in the LMS, but not in ALMS. I had heard something about Camaros being built for Grand Am, but that series is a sorry joke thanks to NASCAR. The only real sports car racing happens in the ALMS, and the LMS in Europe.
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I will be honest, I created this account SIMPLY to discuss this topic. I am extremely interested and knowledgable about the ALMS. Starting a team with the camaro is quite honestly, not going to work in the ALMS. The car isn't competitive, and the investment to do so is frankly not worth it. The corvette is a much better platform for GM.

Here is the phone number for the American Lemans Series, +1.706.654.2983

Call them and simply pick a person to talk to. With your investment and sponsorship ready, I would not be afraid to ask for Mr. Atherton right off the bat. He will love to talk to you, or direct you to someone you should talk to. I know your on the topic of Camaro's. but I DO KNOW that Primetime Racing(Joel Feinberg) is in desperate need of sponsorship. They are the ONLY competition Dodge Viper team, not counting the Speed GT Series.

Again, give Mr. Scott Atherton a call today, if it leads to a dead-end, try calling another staff member.

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I had heard something about Camaros being built for Grand Am, but that series is a sorry joke thanks to NASCAR.
Well technically with Pontiac going away they will just be cutting the bodies off of the Pontiac G6 Grand Am cars and replacing it with a Camaro body. Not sure I follow you on the Grand Am/NASCAR link. I know I sure enjoyed watching the Grand Am cars that particiapted in the test at Indy on the F1 course. Really hoping they will have a race here in 2011, if they do the family and I will be there!
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Well technically with Pontiac going away they will just be cutting the bodies off of the Pontiac G6 Grand Am cars and replacing it with a Camaro body. Not sure I follow you on the Grand Am/NASCAR link. I know I sure enjoyed watching the Grand Am cars that particiapted in the test at Indy on the F1 course. Really hoping they will have a race here in 2011, if they do the family and I will be there!
NASCAR owns the Grand Am series. While I will watch anything race, the DP's are not even close to the performance of the LMP1 cars. Take Mid-Ohio for instance. The LMP1's were lapping at about 8 seconds a lap faster than the DP's were when they raced there. Heck the DP's would be hard pressed to compete with the old GT1 C6R!!
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NASCAR owns the Grand Am series. While I will watch anything race, the DP's are not even close to the performance of the LMP1 cars. Take Mid-Ohio for instance. The LMP1's were lapping at about 8 seconds a lap faster than the DP's were when they raced there. Heck the DP's would be hard pressed to compete with the old GT1 C6R!!
I agree, DP's are simply mid engined stock cars and are a hideous answer to a question nobody asked. Complete dogs compared to LMP cars. The only credit I can give them is they have deep fields which are nice and it makes it easier for teams who don't have huge bucks to go "Prototype" racing. But the forumla contrives "close racing" which is what NASCAR is all about, keeping the pack together artifically to create a close race where normally there wouldn't be one.
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I agree, DP's are simply mid engined stock cars and are a hideous answer to a question nobody asked. Complete dogs compared to LMP cars. The only credit I can give them is they have deep fields which are nice and it makes it easier for teams who don't have huge bucks to go "Prototype" racing. But the forumla contrives "close racing" which is what NASCAR is all about, keeping the pack together artifically to create a close race where normally there wouldn't be one.
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I agree, DP's are simply mid engined stock cars and are a hideous answer to a question nobody asked. Complete dogs compared to LMP cars. The only credit I can give them is they have deep fields which are nice and it makes it easier for teams who don't have huge bucks to go "Prototype" racing. But the forumla contrives "close racing" which is what NASCAR is all about, keeping the pack together artifically to create a close race where normally there wouldn't be one.
As I recall (and maybe not correctly) weren't there some pretty stiff rules around brakes and powertrains to keep the costs low for these cars? No carbon ceramic brakes or high dollar hardware would certainly lead to noticeably slower lap times.

And yes I remember when 3 and his boy raced the Corvettes at Daytona. Those were good days and made for a good start to the racing season. Can't say I've watched it since they changed the rules.
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