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boxmonkeyracing · 12-02-2009, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by matt55

They been doing he installs for him ..

well, lol small world then. but they should have been able to give him the direction he needs then. they sure helped me out on my 98. especially on Billy's forum widefnopen. or however you spell it. been a while since I've been to his site.

Edrock · 12-02-2009, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by v6sonoma

Does no one see he was joking here?

Doubt seriously there was any joking going on. Results on that intake are coming soon (maybe even today) though from what I've heard...

Gunmetal · 12-03-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SGOS252382

He already has an ADM intake. I don't think a Vararam intake is going to make
29 rwhp more than the ADM intake.

Your intake is good, little more head work and cam work would get you there. Have you polished and prted the intake/heads?

67ss&99ss · 12-04-2009, 01:39 AM

I think LMR made over 500 rwhp with bolt-ons and a cam. http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/2010-c...spirtated.html A friend of mine made over 500 rwhp in a 03 Z06 with heads/cam/intake and bolt ons. If he can do it with a stock 346. C.I. short block, you can do it with a LS3.

chappy48 · 12-04-2009, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Edrock

Doubt seriously there was any joking going on. Results on that intake are coming soon (maybe even today) though from what I've heard...

Vararam may be a good, even great, intake, but it won't be head and shoulders ahead of the rest. The other companies did months and months of research also. It just so happens that they can actually get their product out the front door in a timely manner.

Pope Designs · 12-04-2009, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by chappy48

Vararam may be a good, even great, intake, but it won't be head and shoulders ahead of the rest. The other companies did months and months of research also. It just so happens that they can actually get their product out the front door in a timely manner.

Well Said!

G8GT4now · 12-04-2009, 04:58 PM

The vararam is "ram air". The car is not moving on the dyno, so don't expect a HP increase with it.

toehead93 · 12-04-2009, 05:02 PM

Regardless of dyno results at least Vararam and New Era are true CAIs.
To the OP, there are a lot of 500+hp LS3. You might need to up the cam.

COBRA CAMANDER · 12-05-2009, 07:56 PM

I have no idea, but I'm subscribing to this thread to get some ideas, I don't want to spray, and I don't want to sc either. It just feels like cheating when you do that stuff to a street car, and it's not as fun, half the fun is tinkering and trying to figure out how to make the big hp.

Mzodarg · 12-05-2009, 07:59 PM

I beg to differ with your statement that is not as fun. Gotta a budy of mine that has a 725HP street car. Procharger, stroked Hemi. Trust me, this car is fun!!!

thekid96 · 12-05-2009, 08:16 PM

I'm with you, my other car is an 800whp Z06 which I call FUN. Wringing those last few HP out of a NA motor is an accomplishment, but big hp FI is a whole nother level of adrenaline.

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Originally Posted by Mzodarg

I beg to differ with your statement that is not as fun. Gotta a budy of mine that has a 725HP street car. Procharger, stroked Hemi. Trust me, this car is fun!!!

COBRA CAMANDER · 12-05-2009, 08:26 PM

I wasn't saying that driving the car isn't as fun, just saying the more dificult serch for 500 hp is more fun when it is more difficult IMO. You have to admitt with these cars, 500+ whp is just a maggie away, most of us N/A guys seem to still be searching for that all natural silver bullet. Just remeber "it's all good, somes just better than others" , and to each his own.

themossman · 12-05-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chappy48

Vararam may be a good, even great, intake, but it won't be head and shoulders ahead of the rest. The other companies did months and months of research also. It just so happens that they can actually get their product out the front door in a timely manner.

There were some that did not do months and month of research and rushed their unrefined products to market.

I bought one...and wish I hadn't.

04ssSilverado · 12-05-2009, 08:31 PM

i was late to the party on superchargers; i also thought making power the old way was the only way; but if you can have a well mannered ride 98% of the time,and a freaking beast the other 2%(as much as most can enjoy it),why put up with another tempermental playtoy,if you don't have to?

COBRA CAMANDER · 12-05-2009, 08:33 PM

Has anyone done a comparrison to see how much HP we are losing in the clutch, and if changing out the diff/trans mount bushings helps get the HP our engines make to the gorund?

Jason 98 TA · 12-07-2009, 09:11 AM

500rwhp is possible with heads cam. I'll try to post my video & dyno sheet from my 2010SS with TSP camshaft & PRC LS3 CNC ported heads.

12-04-2009, 01:39 AM	#29
67ss&99ss Andy Drives: a few muscle cars Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NE Georgia Posts: 24	I think LMR made over 500 rwhp with bolt-ons and a cam. http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/2010-c...spirtated.html A friend of mine made over 500 rwhp in a 03 Z06 with heads/cam/intake and bolt ons. If he can do it with a stock 346. C.I. short block, you can do it with a LS3. __________________ 1967 Camaro SS: 406 sbc, 522 HP/514 FT LBS\|Muncie 4 speed\|Posi\|3.73s 1969 C/10: 350\|Turbo 350 1972 Nova: 350\|Turbo 350 1974 'Cuda: 340\|4 speed\|Dana 60\|4.10s\|Posi 1999 Camaro SS: Longtubes\|True Duals\|Lid\|LS6\|TT2s

12-04-2009, 05:02 PM	#33
toehead93 Drives: 2010 SS, 1993 Z28 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: wpb fl Posts: 2,030 View My Garage	Regardless of dyno results at least Vararam and New Era are true CAIs. To the OP, there are a lot of 500+hp LS3. You might need to up the cam. __________________ 2SS A6 Black 360 RWHP/382 FTLBS - tune only Mods on: Dynatech LTs, Vararam Intake, Pedders Xa's, DiabloSport tuned

12-05-2009, 07:59 PM	#35
Mzodarg Remembering those in Blue Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Blk w/IOM Int Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 480	I beg to differ with your statement that is not as fun. Gotta a budy of mine that has a 725HP street car. Procharger, stroked Hemi. Trust me, this car is fun!!! __________________ SOLD. www.harleytechtalk.org

12-07-2009, 09:11 AM	#41
Jason 98 TA Drives: Camaro Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,211	500rwhp is possible with heads cam. I'll try to post my video & dyno sheet from my 2010SS with TSP camshaft & PRC LS3 CNC ported heads. __________________ Jason Texas Speed & Performance www.texas-speed.com 806.698.0365

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G8GT4now Drives: 09 CTS-V Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 389	The vararam is "ram air". The car is not moving on the dyno, so don't expect a HP increase with it.

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COBRA CAMANDER Drives: 2010 camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Portsmouth VA Posts: 179 View My Garage	Has anyone done a comparrison to see how much HP we are losing in the clutch, and if changing out the diff/trans mount bushings helps get the HP our engines make to the gorund?