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Old 11-27-2009, 05:42 PM   #1
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Dealer asking WAY over MSRP

I've been eyeing a Camaro 2SS at one of the dealers, through the Chevrolet site. They show a window sticker there with a MSRP of 38k & change.

I went into the dealer yesterday to take a look at what i hope to be my new ride, and they price listed on the car was over 43k. Seriously?

No one was at the dealership yesterday, but I plan on going in in the next few days. I had been planning to offer MSRP -1000 to start. From what I've read, most Camaro's are going for MSRP in this area.

Any suggestions besides bringing in what info I've found on the internet?
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Old 11-27-2009, 06:35 PM   #2
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If you get to the point of negotiation the first thing I would say is, "First thing that is going to happen is that silly markup is going away. Completely." Refuse to pay the premium.

If they refuse then get up and walk out. There are lots of dealers who are willing to work with you if they want to sell a car. The dealer is under the assumption that supply and demand are still in effect for the Camaro. It hasn't been that way for months.

If all else fails place a call to Wilsonville Chevrolet in Oregon and talk with them. A couple of sales people have told me they won't sell the car for more than MSRP. That doesn't mean they won't try to add on things though.

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Your in Seattle. They are hard to find without the "NW adjustment". Which dealer was it?
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Old 11-28-2009, 02:42 AM   #4
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Mikes in Issaquah. I ended up doing the deal, though for much less than what they were asking, but still a little over MSRP.

I'm ok with the small amount over I paid because they are holding the car for me till I buy it on the 8th.

Test drove it tonight, and it was nice. Can't wait to drive it off from the dealer

Though I'm sure they'll make more, this was the only Imperial Blue with Beige interior in the entire Pacific Northwest, and was pretty much exactly what I wanted.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:33 AM   #5
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Hey now I have a IBM with Beige in the PNW

Gratz on your new ride
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Old 11-28-2009, 09:47 AM   #6
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I meant the only one at any dealer.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:05 AM   #7
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:13 AM   #8
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There are plenty of dealers that will ship your car right to you or you can fly in and pick up and drive it back home. Do that and Break it in right and put 1000 miles on it and have have a blast driving it back! There are two in my local area alone that do this one being the largest dealer in IL and they honor all discounts.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:46 AM   #9
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Think that markup is bad, my local dealership has a 2SS for $55K...I about fell off my chair when I saw it...they even listed it in the local paper like they were proud of that price. I ordered mine about half an hour away for MSRP and am loving it . I don't think paying almost $20K more would be as enjoyable.
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Old 11-28-2009, 04:08 PM   #10
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I know Dave Smith Motors in kellog ID is selling Camaros off the lot at dealer Invoice. If you want to order one they sell it at MSRP. i just bought a GMC truck from them in October and it was a great experience. i went through Pete Vannett in sales. i don't want to sound like I'm plugging them but if they will sell at dealer invoice, no one should be selling with a premium
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Old 12-09-2009, 04:14 PM   #11
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Old 12-09-2009, 11:35 PM   #12
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everytime ive been to parkland chevy theres and extra sticker on the car 3k for the v6 and 5k for the ss and the sales people sound like idiots trying to justify it
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:28 AM   #13
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Old 12-10-2009, 10:35 AM   #14
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everytime ive been to parkland chevy theres and extra sticker on the car 3k for the v6 and 5k for the ss and the sales people sound like idiots trying to justify it

That's why you buy online or come talk to me....

If we advertised our lowest prices on the lot - there would be no room for negotiation.. Now, a dealer is in business to make a profit, but at the same time, if you know the right people, we can make that shrink a little..


INVOICE - HOLDBACK AND INCENTIVES NOW ON OUR CAMARO INVENTORY!
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:09 PM   #15
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just wanna say that i have purchased 3 vehicles from parkland chevy and i love the place,that being said its not the place to buy a camaro,sorry Ben im sure your a great guy but if all the other sales guys dont come through for ya your kinda screwd,i still have parkland do all my service on my 2010 camaro but it doesnt leave a good taste in my mouth when the online price changes when you get to the lot it should be the same for everyone,and im not bashing you guys but this site is for the members to share info on dealers as long as its not bs and lies
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:40 PM   #16
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I am right there with you - my thing is, I treat people how I expect to be treated. I understand pricing should be consistant. When I posted back in the beginning of Camarohood, back in like October or November of last year, there was some conflict between managers.

Again, and you can see my Craigslist adds online - I have all my Camaro's at Invoice - Holdback and incentives.

Your business is appreciated! Come up to the BDC and say what's up sometime!
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Old 12-12-2009, 12:29 PM   #17
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Funny to see the dealer that were over MSRP now trying to sell cars at the pricing they should have sold them at over the summer. All I can say is better to earn the respect of a consumer then make more in profit. I will return to Koenig for my next car and future car purchases, because they were up front and treated me with a ton of respect. I will also do my best to send sales their way. Respect, Honesty, Integrity. Sorry to any sales person trying to make a living at a dealership who doesn't understand this.
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Old 01-20-2010, 05:52 PM   #18
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Yes... it is funny... isn't it. Too bad a lot of the dealers here in the NW are STILL trying to get 5k over MSRP, with 12 Cam's on the lot. I've been able to drive mine for the past 6 months, less than MSRP shipped from Pennsylvania. I laugh everytime I drive by the dealers in seattle while they gawk at my car. Yeah.. you 'could' have been the ones who got my business...
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:11 PM   #19
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I've been eyeing a Camaro 2SS at one of the dealers, through the Chevrolet site. They show a window sticker there with a MSRP of 38k & change.

I went into the dealer yesterday to take a look at what i hope to be my new ride, and they price listed on the car was over 43k. Seriously?

No one was at the dealership yesterday, but I plan on going in in the next few days. I had been planning to offer MSRP -1000 to start. From what I've read, most Camaro's are going for MSRP in this area.

Any suggestions besides bringing in what info I've found on the internet?
You might want to try Dave Smith Motors in Kellogg, Idaho,
I had a great experiance purchasing my 2011 2SS.
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:14 PM   #20
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I got the 2SS under MSRP Dave Smith Motors, Kellogg, Idaho.
Save a bunch even with the air fare to Spokane, they will pick you up at the airport and take you to Kellogg from Spokane.

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Old 12-03-2010, 12:29 AM   #21
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Old 12-03-2010, 12:38 AM   #22
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Hey now I have a IBM with Beige in the PNW

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Hey Pappi I have a 2LT RS IBM with grey interior, we'll should get together on cruise night sometime next summer and show off our Camaros.
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Mikes in Issaquah. I ended up doing the deal, though for much less than what they were asking, but still a little over MSRP.

I'm ok with the small amount over I paid because they are holding the car for me till I buy it on the 8th.

Test drove it tonight, and it was nice. Can't wait to drive it off from the dealer

Though I'm sure they'll make more, this was the only Imperial Blue with Beige interior in the entire Pacific Northwest, and was pretty much exactly what I wanted.
Tell them that you are a PNWCC member remember they are a sponsor of the show & they may work with you.
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Parkland Chevy wouldn't honor my GM Family discount, while I've generally liked them (and bought from them) in the past, they seemed to forget that relationship. And to make matters worse, they refused to accept my drop ship to them because there wasn't enough in it for them. Therefore I am picking mine up from Puyallup Chevrolet, who have treated me wonderfully since they agreed to do me the solid. I'm returning the favor! Oddly enough I'm not even going to use the GM family discount now as they've changed the rules on the GM World Card points, you can't use them with that program any longer.....so using the points actually saves me more money.

No offense to you Ben, Tracy Hoffer my excellent usual salesperson, nor to Ron Ely our favorite Maintenance guy! Sometimes Management simply likes to ruin it for everyone else.

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