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Old 11-27-2009, 06:02 PM   #1
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BEWARE..drop kit + wide wheels may = damaged EBrake line??

Just a heads up to those of you installing drop kits and wider rear wheels.....

Just had my 2SS lowered this week w/ 1" springs.Looks great & no problems. Installed my wider wheels and noticed that the Ebrake lines were very close to the rim on the driver side....pass side had almost 3/4" clearance. The Ebrake line was able to be pushed inwards a little but durring driving it crept back against the wheel causing minor wear to the wheel and wore thru the protective rubber Ebrake insulator....down to the braided wire. Taking it to the dealer tomorrow to put on a lift to see what adjustments can be made to remove the excess length of Ebrake cable on the driver side.

Thought you guys/gals might just want to check this area before enjoying your new wheels and drop kit.
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:56 PM   #2
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Thanks FEN, my CCW 505a's are due to arrive this coming Tuesday with 315's on the rear so I will look out for this. Wondering if this is the first this has happened or you are the first to notice it.
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Old 11-27-2009, 10:03 PM   #3
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Give more details on your rim and tire sizes. I have had no issues thus far with 2k miles.
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Old 11-28-2009, 06:36 AM   #4
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Rear wheels are 11.5x20 w/305/35

Its not a wheel or tire issue.As stated previously the pass side has alot of clearance.I think its just a matter of getting the car on a lift and moving the cable in a way that it cannot crep back.Im heading out in a few minutes to the dealer to see what can be done.

Just thought it would be a good idea for others to check this before they start hearing the terrible sound of the braided cable rubbing against a wheel....usually when cornering.
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Old 11-28-2009, 04:11 PM   #5
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OK...dealer put car on lift and the Ebrake cables had quite a bit extra length.....started at front and began pulling cable thru mounts until both sides were over 1.5 inches away from wheels and allowing enough for wheel travel. To insure that the cable never creeps closer to wheels the service tech cut a piece of fuel line with same ID as the OD of Ebrake cable & slid it around the cable just behind the first mounting location (white bushing) and then installed a hose clamp around it.Looks fine and should work perfect to ensure cable does not move any closer to the wheels.
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Old 11-29-2009, 06:07 PM   #6
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just pull some slack through the loops towards the rear of the car, and wire-tie that sucker out of the way
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Old 12-02-2009, 12:24 PM   #7
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It is a big cable so be sure to use large / HD cable ties. Aside from just rubbing against the wheel, others have had issues with the inner barrel mounted TPM. This second valve stem can actually break and cause air loss with e-brake cable interference.
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:34 AM   #8
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i had this problem with mine when i had the pedders Xa's installes. they just tied it up out of the way and its fine.
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Old 12-03-2009, 01:50 PM   #9
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I put my 20x11.5 CCWs on last night (same ones FEN has) and here is a shot of the clearance the ebrake cable has on both rears, I can get my pinky between the cable and the edge of the rim, I'll still be pulling it a little further away just to be safe;

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Old 12-03-2009, 04:09 PM   #10
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pet , im assuming you have the stainless steel brake lines on your camaro? and you have hte stock calipers still right? how much better is the braking now? i ordered the lines from backstreet performance and id like to get a set of light weight slotted rotors also.
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Old 12-03-2009, 06:29 PM   #12
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I put my 20x11.5 CCWs on last night (same ones FEN has) and here is a shot of the clearance the ebrake cable has on both rears, I can get my pinky between the cable and the edge of the rim, I'll still be pulling it a little further away just to be safe;

I think the 1" drop was the straw that broke the camels back in my case. The dealers fix has worked perfect so far.
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pet , im assuming you have the stainless steel brake lines on your camaro? and you have hte stock calipers still right? how much better is the braking now? i ordered the lines from backstreet performance and id like to get a set of light weight slotted rotors also.
I won't say there is a huge difference. They do feel sharper, a bit firmer. The reason I use SS lines is margin of safety under extreme load / use / abuse I heap on a car -- my best friends are my brakes. That little bit might be all I need. So SS lines are mandatory on all my cars.
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d@mn it!! just checked my car and sure enough i see the hit marks.
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Rear wheels are 11.5x20 w/305/35

Its not a wheel or tire issue.As stated previously the pass side has alot of clearance.I think its just a matter of getting the car on a lift and moving the cable in a way that it cannot crep back.Im heading out in a few minutes to the dealer to see what can be done.

Just thought it would be a good idea for others to check this before they start hearing the terrible sound of the braided cable rubbing against a wheel....usually when cornering.
i was wondering what that was from. love those freeway on and off ramps.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:33 AM   #16
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jacked mine up and put on some zip ties. got the alignment done. runs smooth now.
Thanks for the info, I would have never looked at the brake line.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:50 AM   #17
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I looked closer at mine last night and the passenger side I had no concerns about as it stands now since I am not lowered yet but on the driver side I did notice there was a wheel weight stuck on at the edge of the rim and it has a pretty sharp corner and when I rotated the wheel around to line the weight up with the ebrake line and it was too close for comfort. I noticed the ebrake line enters into a plastic "barrel" that sits in a clamp on the chassis, further in there is another barrel the line runs through before turning and heading toward the front of the car. Because I can't get the car on a lift until this weekend and didn't feel like jacking the car up and taking the wheels off to get in there, I was able to reach the inner barrel on both ebrake lines and pop them up out of their clamps, this released a ton of tension on the line coming out of the outer barrel and gave me another 3/4 inches of clearance from the inside edge of the rim and more notably the edge of the wheel weight as it passes by. Now I understand the inner clamp for the ebrake barrel is there to serve a purpose and I will go back in and secure the inner barrel once I get it up on a lift this weekend. I just couldn't wait to drive the friggin car anymore since it has been sitting in the garage since delivery two weeks ago!!!
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jacked mine up and put on some zip ties. got the alignment done. runs smooth now.
Thanks for the info, I would have never looked at the brake line.
+1, I too wanna thank FEN for the heads up, I would never thought to look at the line until it was possibly too late. Thanks for taking one for the team FEN
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+1, I too wanna thank FEN for the heads up, I would never thought to look at the line until it was possibly too late. Thanks for taking one for the team FEN
I can see some metal on my brake line, but it should be OK. I will order some new break lines soon.
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I can see some metal on my brake line, but it should be OK. I will order some new break lines soon.
Safety is alway the #1 concern in a performance car.

FYI, if you have purchased pedders bits to lower your car you may be eligible for a December Dollar Days half price SS Brake line kit. Mike started a thread on this a few days ago.
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The mods may want to make this a sticky. There is a potential safety issue with brake lines and TPMS sensors that everyone needs to be aware of.
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:08 AM   #22
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I'm guessing offsets are needed as well since that will affect how the wheel sits in there .. it might be good to post wheel sizes and offsets with if you have had any issues or if you haven't had any issues..

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The mods may want to make this a sticky. There is a potential safety issue with brake lines and TPMS sensors that everyone needs to be aware of.
Sounds to me like the safety issue is people dropping their rides - not TPMS or brake lines.
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Sounds to me like the safety issue is people dropping their rides - not TPMS or brake lines.
Regardless of how it is worded the message is the same. Aftermartket rims with valve stem style TPMS in a secondary hole on a normal ride height car can have a problem as well.
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Regardless of how it is worded the message is the same. Aftermartket rims with valve stem style TPMS in a secondary hole on a normal ride height car can have a problem as well.
When you are talking about safety, the wording is very important. It's one thing to say "modifier, beware". It's another thing altogether to say (or have incorrectly interpreted) there is something inherently wrong with the OEM setup.

I think it's great to warn people of what can happen when they modify their ride. Proceed with caution!
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