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Old 11-30-2009, 05:38 PM   #1
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Dipstick is a piece of crap for readings.

This may go down as one of the Dumbest Camaro5 postings ever but here goes.

I just changed oil this weekend. I used exactly 8 quarts of Mobile 1 5w-30. I used rhino ramps and let it drain for approx 30 minutes. ( Beer run).

I know this sounds stupid, but For some reason, I can't get a good reading on this POS dipstick. Every time I pull it, the tube seems to smear the oil up the dipstick. way past the (cross hatched) full reading area. I also made sure the car was sitting on level ground and oil was checked at operating temperature.

I guess I am afraid of possible slight overfill...I am wondering just how much residual oil, if any at all, typically remains inside the motor even after it is drained.
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Old 11-30-2009, 06:08 PM   #2
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I think all dip-stick-design knowledge has been lost. The one in my Chrysler van is also useless.
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Old 11-30-2009, 06:26 PM   #3
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Same on my 2007 Canyon I5. The tip where you check the oil is real dark brown. I swear they purposely tryed to make it the same color as oil when it starts to turn a little brown. I have a heck of a time reading it.
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Old 11-30-2009, 07:25 PM   #4
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I know this sounds stupid, but For some reason, I can't get a good reading on this POS dipstick.
Agreed the dipstick is a POS. Long, limp, flimsy, and plastic. Very difficult to read accurately.

I've resorted to doing three or four pulls just to get an average reading. I will be looking for an aftermarket dipstick. Anyone know of an aftermarket dipstick for the LS3?
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:01 PM   #5
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I agree, very difficult to read!
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:04 PM   #6
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Doesn't the car have to be level when draining the oil?
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:07 PM   #7
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Doesn't the car have to be level when draining the oil?
Car only needs to be near level when checking the oil level (using dipstick).

Draining the oil car can be a fairly large angle upward -- front wheels on ramps while rear wheels on ground.
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:11 PM   #8
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Draining the oil car can be a fairly large angle upward -- front wheels on ramps while rear wheels on ground.
I don't change my own oil anymore, but I used to and all my cars I used a
hydraulic jack. I let the oil drain then lower the jack and quite a bit more would come out.
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:15 PM   #9
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I don't change my own oil anymore, but I used to and all my cars I used a
hydraulic jack. I let the oil drain then lower the jack and quite a bit more would come out.
Good observations. What you say is true depending on the motor design. On some motors, the oil gets trapped in the heads. This is why you see more oil drain out when you lower the jacks -- oil trapped in the heads flows back (forward) to the drain holes and into the oil pan.
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Good observations. What you say is true depending on the motor design. On some motors, the oil gets trapped in the heads. This is why you see more oil drain out when you lower the jacks -- oil trapped in the heads flows back (forward) to the drain holes and into the oil pan.
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:20 PM   #11
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Sorry, back on topic. I have not had any problem reading the dipstick.
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:43 PM   #12
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Thanks for The replys. If there was some residual oil still left inside the motor, perhaps inside the heads, now I really don't have a clue whether or not I am a little over filled do to this useless dipstick.

Hopefully LS motors are a little forgiving on over fills
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Old 11-30-2009, 10:18 PM   #13
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I just changed the oil on my 2LT this past weekend (first oil change). Used a jack and stands. When the hot oil dripped at a rate of about 1 drip every 15 second (or after 10 minutes)... I took the stands out and let the car down... I also noticed the oil started flowing again, so I left it for another 10 minutes… then jacked it back up to replace the drain plug. I also removed the oil filter BEFORE initially jacking the car up. Don’t know if that made a difference though. I put almost 6 litres of Moble1 5W30 in it. For my American friends… the manual calls for 5.7 litres. The dip stick on the LT is square and it always shows a higher oil level on one side than the other… I think you called it… a POS.
I do notice my oil pressure generally higher after the synthetic oil change. Anyone else notice this?
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Old 12-08-2009, 12:53 PM   #14
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I think its possible you could be slightly over filled, but I dont know how much damage this would cause. Maybe someone else could chime in.
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:10 PM   #15
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I know I have seen some paint the bottom of there dipstick white so reading it is much easier but I have no idea what paint to do this with might be worth some research!
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:30 PM   #16
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Nonetheless, whatever didn't get drained out after 30 minutes would not be enough to worry about.

I have no prob reading the dipstick, did it last night in a poorly lit garage. No prob.
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Old 12-08-2009, 08:20 PM   #17
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Just a thought. If you drill small holes in the areas that are marked and one in between, the oil level will show up in the holes. Just a thought.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:52 PM   #18
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Just a thought. If you drill small holes in the areas that are marked and one in between, the oil level will show up in the holes. Just a thought.

THAT'S SO SIMPLE IT JUST MIGHT WORK!
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:15 PM   #19
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Slightly overfilling an engine won't hurt it.
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Old 12-13-2009, 01:23 PM   #20
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No problem reading the dipsticks here. A slight overfill will not hurt. On the LS1 fbody pans we would overfill the oil about 3/4 quart before a track session to prevent oil starvation. Never had a problem.
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Old 12-13-2009, 02:04 PM   #21
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YEah, you get some drips along the edge, but I can read mine clear as day.
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Old 12-13-2009, 03:53 PM   #22
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Just a thought. If you drill small holes in the areas that are marked and one in between, the oil level will show up in the holes. Just a thought.
This is how the dipstick is for the automatic tranny fluid in some cars
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:37 PM   #23
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Well how do you read this dipstick. It has the cross checked tip, then 4 lines in the middle and another cross checked section at the top.

I would assume anything between the cross checked sections would be OK. If you have the oil level showing right in the middle is that the correct level? If it's showing in the top cross checked area it is too high?

That's where mine is showing now after taking it for a spin and running it hard, my level shows in the top cross checked area. I will drain alittle in the morning.
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Old 08-17-2010, 06:50 AM   #24
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Just a thought. If you drill small holes in the areas that are marked and one in between, the oil level will show up in the holes. Just a thought.
I'd be careful doing that. Mine takes a lot of force to pull out/push in, and I'd be worried about it breaking off in the tube.
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Old 08-20-2010, 12:00 PM   #25
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Thanks for The replys. If there was some residual oil still left inside the motor, perhaps inside the heads, now I really don't have a clue whether or not I am a little over filled do to this useless dipstick.

Hopefully LS motors are a little forgiving on over fills
If you mean by "LS" you have an LS V6, your motor only takes 6 quarts.
8 Qts. will overfill it.
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