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Old 12-03-2009, 02:33 AM   #1
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Arrow What to do when you get pulled over! Please Read.

OK, so you've been pulled over and to be blunt - the reason does NOT matter.

You can be pulled over for an indefinite amount of reasons, and including "Routine Traffic Stop" aka no reason what soever in some states / provinces pending on the police powers of that state / province.
It may vary slightly pending on the level of police, from Local to State, to Federal and in Canada Local, Provincial, and Federal.

-- This means don't bitch about why you got pulled over to anyone and how its ''stupid''.

If you get stopped, for any of the following reasons:
1.) Window Tint
2.) Loud Exhaust
3.) Routine Stop

This is because IN MOST CASES the officer has used one of the three above to justify why he stopped you and is hoping to find something else.

Window Tint
- If you go dark, you are at risk.
Do you have any idea how jarring, concerning, ''scary'' it is for an officer to approach a vehicle at night when he cant see in,

Can you imagine approaching a vehicle and seeing a passenger in the back seat with something shiny.. is it a pop can or is it a gun?

How would you like to approach a car you cant see in and deal with the worst of the worst on a constant basis?


Loud Exhaust
- you're in your teens, you want it to sound like a v8, you want more performance

Whatever the reason you went with a big exhaust police do not care.
Stop justifying it, you pay to play. P.S., Chances are you were revving your engine or it sounded like shit and annoyed the officer thus you got stopped.


Routine Check
- again, you need these things, they are checking.


now, I'm going to give you a few tips that will most often result in no ticket, just a firm warning

1.) AS SOON AS YOU REALIZE YOU ARE BEING PULLED OVER DON'T IMMEDIATELY STOP IN YOUR CURRENT SPOT, This often results in the officer being placed in harms way from oncoming vehicles. Again, think if this was you?

2.) Immediately turn on your FOUR WAYS
This conveys to the officer that you acknowledge that hes there.

3.) Begin looking for a SAFE SPOT for both you AND HIM to pull off. If this means driving for an extra 60 seconds so be it!

4.) You've now stopped, before the officer even gets out of his car you have more than enough time to do the following
- Turn on your dome / interior lights so the interior is now visible (tint people).
- Get out all required documentation that you KNOW he will probably want to see
- Turn your VEHICLE off, and put your keys, along with your documentation on the dash in PLAIN VIEW
- As the officer approaches leave your hands on the steering wheel.

5.) Doing the above will have the following happen
- HE will be shocked, everythign is in plain view, vehicles off, he can see in, your documentation is all there, your hands are in plain view, your vehicles off, I mean christ if he didnt know any better hed think you were actually mindful and respectful of HIM doing his job that you PAY him to do.

- If he asks why it took you an extra 60 seconds to come to a stop you can say because i wanted to find somewhere safe for both you and I to stop.


If you do the above chances are you won't get a ticket.. after all this guy is doing his job that everyone wants them to do.

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Old 12-03-2009, 02:37 AM   #2
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An officer CAN NOT pull you over for a "routine check". It is against the law!

An officer requires probable cause or reasonable suspicion to stop a vehicle...

A traffic violation, equipment violation, plate or a saftey violation.

Again, an officer CAN NOT stop you just because. He/she requires a lawful reason. A stop is a "seizure" of that person.

Another thing...driving another 60 seconds will piss me off! Unless you do not stop immediately, I will deem other reasons (hiding something, retrieving a gun or other weapon IE stalling) If you pull over safely and the officer directs you otherwise is the best option.
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:45 AM   #4
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An officer CAN NOT pull you over for a "routine check". It is against the law!

An officer requires probable cause or reasonable suspicion to stop a vehicle...

A traffic violation, equipment violation, plate or a saftey violation.

Again, an officer CAN NOT stop you just because. He/she requires a lawful reason. A stop is a "seizure" of that person.

Another thing...driving another 60 seconds will piss me off! Unless you do not stop immediately, I will deem other reasons (hiding something, retrieving a gun or other weapon IE stalling) If you pull over safely and the officer directs you otherwise is the best option.

Allow me to clarify
Local PD's are required to observe some sort of violation to result in the stopping of a vehicle.

State Police do not need a reason and are more than legally entitled to check for drivers license, vehicle registration ect.

These are usually covered under the highway traffic act according to your state / province.

If you live in a state where JC *Just Cause* is required, then believe you me I can think of several reasons why I ''stopped'' you, the most simple is you resemble a person of interest.
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:46 AM   #5
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Oh, I see you're a leo from Detroit..

Well you guys do things different there, all sorts of crazies to contend with.
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:53 AM   #6
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The one thing an officer wants to see are your hands. So keep 'em both on top of the steering wheel and leave 'em there until he/she asks you to provide the necessary documentation. You may not like the PERSON who pulled you over, but that badge they're wearing does deserve respect. Show that respect, cooperate calmly, and no matter what happens, at least you'll know you handled yourself like a gentleman!

They have a tough, thankless job. The only good people they usually meet during the course of the day, are those who are having one of the worst days of their lives. Cops are human too, and as long as you remember that, the encounter doesn't have to be a horrible one.

(Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now.)
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Old 12-03-2009, 03:06 AM   #7
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Allow me to clarify
Local PD's are required to observe some sort of violation to result in the stopping of a vehicle.

State Police do not need a reason and are more than legally entitled to check for drivers license, vehicle registration ect.

These are usually covered under the highway traffic act according to your state / province.

If you live in a state where JC *Just Cause* is required, then believe you me I can think of several reasons why I ''stopped'' you, the most simple is you resemble a person of interest.
What is the 4th Amendment?

What is unreasonable? You need probable cause or reasonable suspicion.

Can I run any plate I deem necessary on LEIN absent PC or RS? No!

Can I stop ANY vehicle absent PC or RS? No...Why?

The 4th Amendment to the Constitution which covers all citizens absent statutorial law which prevails.

Being a Detroit LEO does not mean we do things differently at all. Law is law. But I definately do use all applicable minor PC infractions such as license plate lamp out or fail to signal to stop a car if I believe crime is afoot. Do I stop and cite for stupid crap like that? Hell no.

I have to follow the law and the Constitution or else I get fired.
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What is the 4th Amendment?

What is unreasonable? You need probable cause or reasonable suspicion.

Can I run any plate I deem necessary on LEIN absent PC or RS? No!

Can I stop ANY vehicle absent PC or RS? No...Why?

The 4th Amendment to the Constitution which covers all citizens absent statutorial law which prevails.

Being a Detroit LEO does not mean we do things differently at all. Law is law. But I definately do use all applicable minor PC infractions such as license plate lamp out or fail to signal to stop a car if I believe crime is afoot. Do I stop and cite for stupid crap like that? Hell no.

I have to follow the law and the Constitution or else I get fired.
Take it easy Banshee... Politics... I think your still good, just don't go too much further... Just tryin to look out!
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Take it easy Banshee... Politics... I think your still good, just don't go too much further... Just tryin to look out!
Gotz to keep this fella away from all threads regarding law enforcement. It'll get intense.
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What the hell does this have to do with Camaro's. My limited experiance is it all depends on the officer who is stopping you. Some are very nice no matter what you do, some are total pricks even if you behave perfectly!!!!!
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You can get a ticket if your exhaust is too loud?
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Gotz to keep this fella away from all threads regarding law enforcement. It'll get intense.
Yea, I am noticing!!! lol
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What the hell does this have to do with Camaro's. My limited experiance is it all depends on the officer who is stopping you. Some are very nice no matter what you do, some are total pricks even if you behave perfectly!!!!!
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You can get a ticket if your exhaust is too loud?
In some places... It's considered 'noise pollution'
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You can get a ticket if your exhaust is too loud?
I love this post!!!
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lmao yes. The biker community has to worry about it sometimes. Certain states are tougher about it than others.
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I see now Asylum is Canadian which led to my correction of his post.

Just be sure to get the correct information out. There IS a difference between Canadian and American law.
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I see now Asylum is Canadian which led to my correction of his post.

Just be sure to get the correct information out. There IS a difference between Canadian and American law.
It's all good, the info still needed to get out there, so us Americans know the difference! Its cool, at least IMO!
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I figured youd get my PM Banshee Wasnt' trying to butt heads with you as I'm taking part in the OPP training now and this is all very fresh incoming knowledge. I'm trying to assist the community in what to do when these unfortunate things happen.


There are places in the states where State Troopers can pull you over for no reason what so ever and justify it as a routine stop to check your license registration ect.

In other places where this isn't allowed then like banshee said a whole slew of infractions are in place to make our job easier in finding out who's inside the vehicle.

in the UK, and in Canada, if you are driving you CAN be stopped as they are checking to see drivers license, insurance, registration ect.

The purpose of this post is not to dictate how you can go about getting stopped but rather WHAT TO DO when you get stopped.
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You can get a ticket if your exhaust is too loud?
You live in so cal and don't know this? Some jerk officers around here will pull you over for that. My dad got a ticket. I never have, even though my car is louder.
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You live in so cal and don't know this? Some jerk officers around here will pull you over for that. My dad got a ticket. I never have, even though my car is louder.

Yeah, California.
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I'm laughing, though I shouldn't be. I am sorry you got that ticket though!
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LOL, yea.... you know from experience! But, so do I
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Sometimes you're getting the ticket no matter what you do.
Shoot me those equipment violation tickets through the mail!

I will sign off on all of them!

Tint too!
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