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Old 12-03-2009, 09:52 AM   #1
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Z/28 has been put on hold again?

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...le-pics-86679/

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The much anticipated, higher performance Z28 model Camaro has reportedly been scrapped, with the low-volume sales and a reported $50 million production tag sealing its fate.
Is this more or less a rumor? Any confirmed sources saying the same thing?
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Old 12-03-2009, 09:57 AM   #2
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Rumbling going around that GM's Board killed it and that was another issue that helped with the ouster the other day. The board is ran by the govermemnt appointees and they are not wanting to spend money on another non green car.
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:01 AM   #3
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I think it's good thing. GM right now is still operating at a loss. They need cash and that money would do better invested in cars that will sell in higher volumes. Z28 may fulfill enthusiasts dreams but it won't bring in enough cash to justify the investment. GM needs to get in the black before wasting money this way or they will be back in BK court.
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:02 AM   #4
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:03 AM   #5
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Yea right. Next week it will be back on. I never seen a more talked about car that doesn't exist. I can believe it though, because gm an slp hooked up to sell cars so why would they bring out a z/28. I would seem redundant.
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:09 AM   #6
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I think it's good thing. GM right now is still operating at a loss. They need cash and that money would do better invested in cars that will sell in higher volumes. Z28 may fulfill enthusiasts dreams but it won't bring in enough cash to justify the investment. GM needs to get in the black before wasting money this way or they will be back in BK court.
The Camaro was an enthusiast's dream and it is doing very well. I believe the Z/28 would turn in more than enough profit to justify it's production. I firmly believe though, that when the Camaro sales start slipping, then they will release the Z/28 to get the hype stirring once again. Then again, they could capitalize on the popularity right now, however it is a hard business decision that I'm glad I do not have to make.
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:15 AM   #7
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The Camaro was an enthusiast's dream and it is doing very well. I believe the Z/28 would turn in more than enough profit to justify it's production. I firmly believe though, that when the Camaro sales start slipping, then they will release the Z/28 to get the hype stirring once again. Then again, they could capitalize on the popularity right now, however it is a hard business decision that I'm glad I do not have to make.

Yes it is a car that most of the buying public could afford. Even with dealers jacking up the prices. The Z28 will not fall into that price bracket and it will be less attainable by most of those same people. In another financial situation i would say do it but GM needs to focus on more popular segments right now.
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OH snap they took that site down!
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OH snap they took that site down!


It's just scheduled site maintenance.
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:27 AM   #10
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Yes it is a car that most of the buying public could afford. Even with dealers jacking up the prices. The Z28 will not fall into that price bracket and it will be less attainable by most of those same people. In another financial situation i would say do it but GM needs to focus on more popular segments right now.
This trim level wouldn't be made to outsell the other Camaros. It would have a different target market, obviously upper middle class to upper class buyers. It would do good for it is supposed to do, which would be to compete with the higher end segments of the Challengers (SRT8), Mustangs (GT500), etc.The GT500 seems to be justified enough to produce, give that benchmark plus the added popularity of the Camaro over the Mustang, as of right now, then the Z/28 would be a good business decision.
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Gm needs a car that they can sell like hot cakes at and all you can eat pancake breakfast.
They don't need to sock a bunch of money into another low volume car right now. Until they start making money again I think cars like that should go on hold. And Believe me it's not because I don't want one. I just don't want my tax dollars to go waisted.
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:47 AM   #13
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Gm needs a car that they can sell like hot cakes at and all you can eat pancake breakfast.
They don't need to sock a bunch of money into another low volume car right now. Until they start making money again I think cars like that should go on hold. And Believe me it's not because I don't want one. I just don't want my tax dollars to go waisted.
As much as I want one, I agree.
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:58 AM   #14
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yeah its ok we don't need the z28 to keep up with the gt500s anyways...even though the gt500 is atleast 20,000 more it is barely faster than a stock ss
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:59 AM   #15
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Just get an SS & Supercharge it. I still think the y will come out with one but it'll be a few years from now when GM have the right amount of profit behind them.
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:16 AM   #16
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yeah its ok we don't need the z28 to keep up with the gt500s anyways...even though the gt500 is atleast 20,000 more it is barely faster than a stock ss
What SS are you getting into for $28K? Barely faster.
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:21 AM   #17
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What SS are you getting into for $28K? Barely faster.
That's a different thread ,but RIGHT! I love how when someone's car is faster than someone else's they don't say barely even if that's the case, but when their's is slower ,they always have to say" barely or not much faster or only by a couple of tenths".
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:31 AM   #18
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well it helps when you get a gm discount. i got mine for 31 so yeah i believe i could take maybe a couple thousand if not less and beat your mustangs a$%
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:36 AM   #19
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but it actually depends on the driver too. from every video i have seen, if the mustang is so much faster then none of you mustang guys can drive i guess
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slp needs to take this under their wing i think. just like they did with the ss in the 4th gen. give them the cars and have them turn it into a z28 so people can finally be happy. because we all know everyone is scared to do their own version of a z28!
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Old 12-03-2009, 12:23 PM   #21
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well it helps when you get a gm discount.
Got news for ya, I didn't pay MSRP on my GT500, either. Yes, there is a considerable price difference between a 1SS and a GT500, but you get what you pay for, and by that I mean more than just the difference in the two car's quarter mile times.

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i got mine for 31 so yeah i believe i could take maybe a couple thousand if not less and beat your mustangs a$%
ORLY? You better be prepared to spend more than a couple grand to do it. I'd hazard to guess your mouth is writing checks your ass can't cash.

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but it actually depends on the driver too. from every video i have seen, if the mustang is so much faster then none of you mustang guys can drive i guess
"you Mustang guys". That kills me. I currently drive a Mustang so that makes one of them. Okay. Was I still a "Mustang" guy when I was sporting my 2006 GTO?

So, have you actually ever had your car on a track, or is your only source of reference to determine what car is faster than another YouTube?


Back on topic, I agree with the sentiments of some others. GM is not currently in the position to produce the Z28 in-house, at least not as far as the Board of Directors is concerned. If GM want to produce a niche-market version of the new Camaro, they are better off outsourcing it so someone else. Even then, they will have to find a way to allocate funds for making that happen which, given the current state of things at GM, could still pose a major issue.

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Old 12-03-2009, 12:34 PM   #22
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OH BOY- here we go again. This is so tiresome. On, off, blah blah blah. For the Z28 hopeful: they never announced it was going into production, officially, so it can't exactly be killed. If I, personally, don't think about it that way, I'll go nuts. Going by the logic they aren't going to get a return on the investment makes me ask: will the convertible make a return, and how much more green is it?...

Play nice - I'm not reading this thread again, lol.
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Well that helps me get off the fence with my current car... Time for some Mods!!!!
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Agree that timing might be bad, but still sorry to see it scratched. Maybe they'll changes their minds when the economy picks up.
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GM should do it's own aftermarket thing for current camaro owners to upgrade their car to a Z28. This way they don't have to waste money producing it. People pay upfront to get it. it could also be tied to your cars warranty.

Truthfully i would be pissed if they came out the a Z28. I would just want to trade in my 2ss to get it.
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