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Old 07-25-2008, 01:04 AM   #1
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News on Z28

It's hard enough to digest that in Australia we probably won't get the Camaro, but I found this link just now from an Australian website. I hope it's not true. Has anybody heard anything similar?? Scroll to read.

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Fbod can tell us "keep the faith, keep the faith keep the faith" ... it gets harder and harder to keep the faith ...
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The article cites no source, they are probably picking up late on last weeks rumor that Scott shot down. Keeping the faith should be easy now, the hard part is done! The car is here and its awesome, that was the whole point.
(Of course that is for America, we have no real idea what GMs plans for Australia is, let alone the Z down under.)
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Actually, it's a good point the car not being exported outside the US. With the EURO/Dollar exchange rate and all the things you have to do (formation of local dealers, etc etc), I guess the car would arrive damn expensive. I'm pretty sure it will be cheaper to import it myself (ok, I do not have that "right handed driving" problem).

Regarding the Z28, we need omre info. Saying "it's still an option" is not sufficient. We have to know WHEN. The "when" will deicide the whole thing between: waiting, buying an SS, buying another car
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Actually, it's a good point the car not being exported outside the US. With the EURO/Dollar exchange rate and all the things you have to do (formation of local dealers, etc etc), I guess the car would arrive damn expensive. I'm pretty sure it will be cheaper to import it myself (ok, I do not have that "right handed driving" problem).

Regarding the Z28, we need omre info. Saying "it's still an option" is not sufficient. We have to know WHEN. The "when" will deicide the whole thing between: waiting, buying an SS, buying another car
See that is what GM is doing, Not telling you for sure that the Z/28 is coming and when, so you WILL go out and buy an SS, then after you do they pop the news that the Z/28 is coming next year, then you trade your SS for a Z/28 and they have then sold 2 cars instead of one...
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As far as I am concerned, nothing in print supercedes this post at the moment:

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It was a misquote.

Let me make a few comments:

We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name.

We don't talk about future products -- but what makes you think we haven't been doing work on something?????

I can't say more than that......other than:

"KEEP THE FAITH" --

I can't lie to you guys -- because if I do, I will have zero credibility......and I don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon -- you're stuck with my ugly mug.
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See that is what GM is doing, Not telling you for sure that the Z/28 is coming and when, so you WILL go out and buy an SS, then after you do they pop the news that the Z/28 is coming next year, then you trade your SS for a Z/28 and they have then sold 2 cars instead of one...
This sort of makes sense
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See that is what GM is doing, Not telling you for sure that the Z/28 is coming and when, so you WILL go out and buy an SS, then after you do they pop the news that the Z/28 is coming next year, then you trade your SS for a Z/28 and they have then sold 2 cars instead of one...
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This sort of makes sense

They are not that cruel. You are going to have to wait 18 months for a 'vert anyways and I figure we will here something by then.
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Does it make any sense at all for GM to not produce a top of the line Camaro? And does it have to be Z28? Would anyone here have a problem if it were say . . . ZL1? But lets look at the facts:

People have assumed for years that there will be a top dog Camaro, generally believing that it will be called the Z28.

Dodge is working on top performing Challengers, and Ford has GT500 Mustangs. Why would GM miss the opportunity to beat its rivals?

They basically have an engine ready to go into it (LSA)

It could be a package, rather than a separate model. That would keep things in line with the SS being the top of the line Camaro, because the Z28 would technically be an SS Z28, similar to how 4th gen SS's began life as Z28's.

As I said before, it might not be called Z28.

When will it be out? Not at launch. Nobody except wishful thinkers believed that would happen and there has been absolutely nothing from GM or even the blogs and magazines to support this notion.
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See that is what GM is doing, Not telling you for sure that the Z/28 is coming and when, so you WILL go out and buy an SS, then after you do they pop the news that the Z/28 is coming next year, then you trade your SS for a Z/28 and they have then sold 2 cars instead of one...
Ditto that. They also aren't telling you that a couple of years into it they will switch them all over to the GenV motor, bump the SS up to 450 or something and piss everybody off.
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See that is what GM is doing, Not telling you for sure that the Z/28 is coming and when, so you WILL go out and buy an SS, then after you do they pop the news that the Z/28 is coming next year, then you trade your SS for a Z/28 and they have then sold 2 cars instead of one...
I'm pretty sure this isn't GM, or any other manufacturer, would do to get sales. I'm sure they know this car is going to sell regardless. This sounds more like a conspiracy theory idea, IMHO. Regardless of that, DG' I think has it right on the nail and we're constantly being reminded to "Keep the faith" so anyone that is hopeful and looking forward to a higher model, whatever it may be, try to just be patient. We can't control what will happen so let's make sure that we appreciate what we have now (or, soon) and keep our fingers crossed, and support those inside GM fighting for us. I'm sure there are many who are, so don't disrespect them by senseless bickering. Let's unite to fight the evil in the world, like the Challenger and Mustang
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They are not that cruel. You are going to have to wait 18 months for a 'vert anyways and I figure we will here something by then.
I was being a little sarcastic... truthfully what GM is doing is normal for them, Bringing out the most sellable cars and bringing the "Balls to the wall" car out later because they know it will not be a car to sell in high numbers mainly because of price. (gotta satisfy the beancounters first that the car is a success)
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Sigh. This is getting to be our new "Those are not the real headlights" thing. The misquoting of the CP interview has gotten to all the hack "journalists" who just want to shoot the Camaro down and don't bother verifying anything. You think they could suffer a quick call to Cheryl but nope, that might prove their source wrong and they can't have that.

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To paraphrase Scott - The Z28 is a classic, hallowed name. It won't be used on any Camaro that doesn't deserve it. Its not coming just right now, but that's not to say it won't come. GM doesn't want to talk about until their ready, and who can blame them for keeping their cards close to their chest?

Maybe the Z28 will be a high horse top dog. Maybe it will be a highly modified but balanced track killer. Who knows? But whatever the case, remember most cars don't have special editions out at launch. Think of the proposed BMW 135 tii. Have patience.
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GM may be revving up to unveil a "super camaro" at the Indy show this September... Being completely honest, 422hp is kind of on the low end when you compare to the Challenger and GT500. Naa, GM's got something up their sleeves; they wanna' race- for sure.
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GM may be revving up to unveil a "super camaro" at the Indy show this September... Being completely honest, 422hp is kind of on the low end when you compare to the Challenger and GT500. Naa, GM's got something up their sleeves; they wanna' race- for sure.



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See that is what GM is doing, Not telling you for sure that the Z/28 is coming and when, so you WILL go out and buy an SS, then after you do they pop the news that the Z/28 is coming next year, then you trade your SS for a Z/28 and they have then sold 2 cars instead of one...
Actually, even if it's gonna piss off a lot of people, not knowing won't make me buy the car.

First because I'll have to import the car in europe and buying, importing,riding, trading, importing would just mean not eating for a while ...

Second because if I had to buy something in the meantime, I may go on a used GT500.

Third, maybe I'd be pissed of waiting and would start to hate that car.

I don't ask for a lot, just saying us there "might be something late 2009, or 2010 or 2011" ...

As you say "GM is interested in not telling the truth you to make people buy more cars". This is assuming we agree to be taken as an idiot customer who should pay and stop asking questions.

I don't like to feel like that.
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GM may be revving up to unveil a "super camaro" at the Indy show this September... Being completely honest, 422hp is kind of on the low end when you compare to the Challenger and GT500. Naa, GM's got something up their sleeves; they wanna' race- for sure.
If they do, I'll look like an @**hole for complaining like I did on this forum.

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Please Mr Chevy, make me look like an @**hole ... I WANT TO BE AN @**hole!
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I don't ask for a lot, just saying us there "might be something late 2009, or 2010 or 2011" ...
I feel like that is what we have here:
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It was a misquote.

Let me make a few comments:

We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name.

We don't talk about future products -- but what makes you think we haven't been doing work on something?????

I can't say more than that......other than:

"KEEP THE FAITH" --

I can't lie to you guys -- because if I do, I will have zero credibility......and I don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon -- you're stuck with my ugly mug.
Its the same thing as why they didn't give us details on the SS a year ago. No auto manufacturer talks about stuff they haven't announced yet.
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If they do, I'll look like an @**hole for complaining like I did on this forum.

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Please Mr Chevy, make me look like an @**hole ... I WANT TO BE AN @**hole!
I'll call you one if it will make you feel better
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I feel like that is what we have here:
Its the same thing as why they didn't give us details on the SS a year ago. No auto manufacturer talks about stuff they haven't announced yet.
Perhaps we could encourage the Mods' to take all of 'Father's comments and put them in a sticky so that we can referrence them easier, LOL. Maybe I'll just add a choice one to my sig' just to remind myself.
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Fbod can tell us "keep the faith, keep the faith keep the faith" ... it gets harder and harder to keep the faith ...
Shouldn't it be easier than ever to "keep the faith"? Has ANYTHING fbodfather said in this forum turned out to be false? I don't see how anyone can have anything other than the utmost faith in the guy and everyone else at GM right now.
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Perhaps we could encourage the Mods' to take all of 'Father's comments and put them in a sticky so that we can referrence them easier, LOL. Maybe I'll just add a choice one to my sig' just to remind myself.
Especially the Z/28 post. That should replace the pics at the top of the webpage!
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