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Old 12-07-2009, 09:02 AM   #26
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So with a tuner and the tunes that reduce the torque limitations at certain RPMs, what does this do to the StableTrack, Traction Control, Launch Control systems, i.e., the button in front of the gear shift? Is that button now disabled or do those systems still work normally as always? We're just talking about setting the computer to allow more torque during a given RPM range but if the rear wheels break loose, the computer will still reduce torque in order to maintain traction when those systems are engaged right?
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:03 AM   #27
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What about the factors for air between the stock pulls and next trip to dyno with the mods.
All pulls are done with a stock car, unstrapped then modded, then re-dynoed. The Dyno also has a weather calibration that is instantly updated.
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Can you over lay a stock graph vs. your tuned graph so we can see the gains? I just see one graph there so we don't get to see much.
Here is one with the torque management turned off.
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Hi i think that some of us have cars that don't know how to read the torque management reduction file. See this NO TUNE on a M6 car i have 5 more dyno pulls with the same info.
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Hi i think that some of us have cars that don't know how to read the torque management reduction file. See this NO TUNE on a M6 car i have 5 more dyno pulls with the same info.
Dyno Operator may have had it in competition mode.
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Maybe he did i will ask but i don't know that for a fact, He is on this forum i will ask him to get in this thread.
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Here is one with the torque management turned off.
Nice! that's 40 ft/lbs at 1800 rpm gained with the tune! This is making me lean more & more towards a tune! I'll let you know when I'm ready, sometime over the winter. Thanks Ted! I just need to decide between the Predator and Vector tune. You guys please help me decide!
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Nice! that's 40 ft/lbs at 1800 rpm gained with the tune! This is making me lean more & more towards a tune! I'll let you know when I'm ready, sometime over the winter. Thanks Ted! I just need to decide between the Predator and Vector tune. You guys please help me decide!
I think Ted (and I) will tell you the Predator or Trinity is the way to go for sure!
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I think Ted (and I) will tell you the Predator or Trinity is the way to go for sure!
We would be happy to do a side by side Comparison
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We would be happy to do a side by side Comparison
Software is only as good as the tuner, I can use any software to tune the same computer and have same results.

I am sure your Software is Great but your the only one that can use it.

In this case It has more to do with End user Functionality, Features, Ease of use, and Nationwide CMR Dealer Support.

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In this case It has more to do with End user Functionality, Features, Ease of use, and Nationwide CMR Dealer Support.

Ted.
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:14 AM   #38
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Software is only as good as the tuner, I can use any software to tune the same computer and have same results.
Ted.

What about L99 trans support?

Not all softwares are created equal, And we have tuned well over 500 A6's.

So I respectfully disagree with you Mr. Jannetty
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What about L99 trans support?

Not all softwares are created equal, And we have tuned well over 500 A6's.

So I respectfully disagree with you Mr. Jannetty
No disrespect meant.

Send me a copy of your tuning software and I will evaluate it, I would be happy to work with you.
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I am sure your Software is Great but your the only one that can use it.
Correct. We make all of the calibration changes, this is my job. Why should someone buy a tune, then have to make changes to it? It should be done right with no hassle to the end user. Our software does come with a data logger and has the very same logging ability as your product, if not more enhanced.

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In this case It has more to do with End user Functionality, Features, Ease of use, and Nationwide CMR Dealer Support.

Does your nation wide support come with the tuners cell phone number? or can they only call during bussiness hours?

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No disrespect meant.

Send me a copy of your tuning software and I will evaluate it, I would be happy to work with you.
I'm not trying to sell you our software? But if you would like to try our TCM calibration to better serve your customers, we would be happy to send you a FlashExpress cable to load into one your cars. Or you can read about it from another happy Camaro5 member here: #58

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[QUOTE=Steve@Vectormotorsports;1264872]I'm not trying to sell you our software? But if you would like to try our TCM calibration to better serve your customers.

Why NOT?, I currently have SCT, HPTuners, and Diablo Custom Tuning Software.

Why would a custom tuning shop want to go backwards in evolution to the days of Custom Tuning Via Superchips, before SCT.
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One more question for Steve.

Are you telling me HPTuners does not have access to the same Transmission tables your software has?
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I'm not trying to sell you our software? But if you would like to try our TCM calibration to better serve your customers.

Why NOT?, I currently have SCT, HPTuners, and Diablo Custom Tuning Software.

Why would a custom tuning shop want to go backwards in evolution to the days of Custom Tuning Via Superchips, before SCT.
Ted, our software is proprietary to us. It is not for sale. I dont call this backwards in eveloution. I call it foward progression.
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One more question for Steve.

Are you telling me HPTuners does not have access to the same Transmission tables your software has?
Are you telling me now that your gonna put HPT. files into a diablo? So now you need to inlist the help of other software to try to get the results your looking for?

And yes that is what I'm telling you. Agian with all do respect, I'd like to see you do Torque managment by mode with H.P tuners. And that is just one of many other functions.
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Did someone say there is TQ management on a manual trans car? Someone explain that because how can you do that when there is no converter involved.
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Did someone say there is TQ management on a manual trans car? Someone explain that because how can you do that when there is no converter involved.
There are TM settings in the ECM, there are methods used to control this torque in the calibration strategy. But we have seen stock cars produce over 320 ftlbs. under 3000 rpm with a factory calibration.
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Ted, our software is proprietary to us. It is not for sale. I dont call this backwards in eveloution. I call it foward progression.
You Know what I was refering to, You Send me a file, I datalog, send you the datalogs, you send me a file, I datalog etc.

This I What we Used to do in the old days

When or If you every change your Mind My Door is Always Open to new technology.

For Now, Diablo is the best solution for Us to remote tune, and HP Tuners is the best solution for our Custom Tuning in house, SCT is a good backup.

Every Product has its own little advantage or disadvantage, As far as the End User is concerned Diablo is the best solution Today, It gives the user power to make changes they want to when they want to.

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You Know what I was refering to, You Send me a file, I datalog, send you the datalogs, you send me a file, I datalog etc.

This I What we Used to do in the old days

When or If you every change your Mind My Door is Always Open to new technology.

For Now, Diablo is the best solution for Us to remote tune, and HP Tuners is the best solution for our Custom Tuning in house, SCT is a good backup.

Every Product has its own little advantage or disadvantage, As far as the End User is concerned Diablo is the best solution Today, It gives the user power to make changes they want to when they want to.

Ted.
Data logging is great if everybody has a wide band air/fuel meter in their car. We have all of our tunes perfected when the end user gets them. We mainly use data logging to find problems.

We use HP Tuners, LS2 Edit and EFI Live in house, so we know the benefits of all of them. In the early days we actually used the GM software to edit files. I personally have been tuning LSX cars since 1998. We started remote tuning in 2005 and have tuned well over 1400 late model LSX vehicles since then.

Some customers like to change limiters and such once they receive their calibration. We cater to the customer that wants the best calibration they can get for their EXACT set of modifications and leave it there. Also, we NEVER have issues with new GM software releases that can leave a customer with hardware that does not work.

We have full transmission support with ability to change torque management by shift mode. You can drive like stock in Normal mode and have an aggressive shift in Sport/Manual for example.

Like you we strive to keep our customers happy and have an excellent customer support record. Our PowerFlash customers have my personal cell phone number and can call 24/7.

I would like to send you a TCM file to try if you want.

At this point we are beating a dead horse. This "I'm better than you" stuff gets old quick. We are both obviously passionate about what we do and will do what it takes to keep our customers happy.
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Data logging is great if everybody has a wide band air/fuel meter in their car. We have all of our tunes perfected when the end user gets them. We mainly use data logging to find problems.

We use HP Tuners, LS2 Edit and EFI Live in house, so we know the benefits of all of them. In the early days we actually used the GM software to edit files. I personally have been tuning LSX cars since 1998. We started remote tuning in 2005 and have tuned well over 1400 late model LSX vehicles since then.

Some customers like to change limiters and such once they receive their calibration. We cater to the customer that wants the best calibration they can get for their EXACT set of modifications and leave it there. Also, we NEVER have issues with new GM software releases that can leave a customer with hardware that does not work.

We have full transmission support with ability to change torque management by shift mode. You can drive like stock in Normal mode and have an aggressive shift in Sport/Manual for example.

Like you we strive to keep our customers happy and have an excellent customer support record. Our PowerFlash customers have my personal cell phone number and can call 24/7.

I would like to send you a TCM file to try if you want.

At this point we are beating a dead horse. This "I'm better than you" stuff gets old quick. We are both obviously passionate about what we do and will do what it takes to keep our customers happy.
You can send it to me, I will PM you my address. So do you have transmission tables that HPT and EFI not have that can make a high stall work?
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