Cadillac CTS with same engine - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

lafountain · 07-28-2008, 02:32 PM

Has anyone else gone to a Cadillac dealership just to look and listen to the engine in the CTS? Obviously the drives would be different between the Camaro and the CTS, but I know I was planning on stopping by a dealership sometime just to check out the engine itself.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 07-28-2008, 02:34 PM

If they let me into the car....(being ~20, I'm not exactly the type that'd be buying a Caddy...) I'd love to test this thing out.

Grape Ape · 07-28-2008, 10:55 PM

I would expect the Cadi exhaust to be a lot quieter than what you'll find under a V6 Camaro.

headpunter · 07-28-2008, 11:41 PM

i actually think the handling will be very simmilar

i have been helping my parents shop for a new CTS and the ordering codes for the suspensions are the same. FE2 is the middle suspension package on the CTS and the Same code for the V6 camaro with the same engine, they are both built on the same chassis. FE3 is the code for the summer tire high performance suspension for the in the caddy and the SS camaro. i have driven the FE3 caddy and i loved it, i hope the camaro drives as well and i will be happy if it isnt even any better (handling wise) then the caddy

*TAG UR IT* · 07-29-2008, 12:33 AM

Went to check out the CTS, but not for what was under the hood.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 07-29-2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by headpunter

they are both built on the same chassis.

No they aren't.

Caddy = Sigma
Camaro = Zeta

I don't know the specifics, but besides being RWD, they have very little in common. Even so, the suspention codes are the same across the board, even for FWD cars. So the FE2 setup in the Caddy should reveal a little about how the Camaro rides.

theholycow · 07-29-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I don't know the specifics, but besides being RWD, they have very little in common. Even so, the suspention codes are the same across the board, even for FWD cars. So the FE2 setup in the Caddy should reveal a little about how the Camaro rides.

Well, how's this for specific info on the suspension:
http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5616

headpunter · 07-29-2008, 10:42 AM

my bad

*DGthe3* · 07-29-2008, 10:42 AM

In the family of GM cars, I consider the CTS to be a 'cousin' to the Camaro. The G8 is a sibling. The 5th Gen Trans Am would be its still-born twin.

If the CTS has the same engine and same suspension and is of a similar weight, it should provide nearly the same driving experience

*The_Blur* · 08-11-2008, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

In the family of GM cars, I consider the CTS to be a 'cousin' to the Camaro. The G8 is a sibling. The 5th Gen Trans Am would be its still-born twin.

If the CTS has the same engine and same suspension and is of a similar weight, it should provide nearly the same driving experience

That Trans Am bit is so sad but so true.

kanys · 08-16-2008, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

No they aren't.

Caddy = Sigma
Camaro = Zeta

I don't know the specifics, but besides being RWD, they have very little in common. Even so, the suspention codes are the same across the board, even for FWD cars. So the FE2 setup in the Caddy should reveal a little about how the Camaro rides.

So what car do you guys recommend to test drive to get a general feel for the V6 Camaro? I was kinda thinking the CTS, but I guess not lol.

FenwickHockey65 · 08-16-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kanys

So what car do you guys recommend to test drive to get a general feel for the V6 Camaro? I was kinda thinking the CTS, but I guess not lol.

I would recommend a G8 Sedan with the standard V6. Same engine, same platform. Not as much horsepower though. 256 HP compared to the Camaro's 300.

*DGthe3* · 08-16-2008, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kanys

So what car do you guys recommend to test drive to get a general feel for the V6 Camaro? I was kinda thinking the CTS, but I guess not lol.

I still say that the CTS DI and the G8 V6 should give an idea of the feel of the V6 Camaro. Its not going to be perfect because both cars are heavier and don't use the exact platform of the Camaro, but its as close as you can get till the real thing hits the streets.

Xanthos · 08-16-2008, 11:51 AM

Or a G6 GTP might be a good comparison for now.
- Xanthos

JEFF2010SSMANUAL · 08-16-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by XanthosV6

Or a G6 GTP might be a good comparison for now.
- Xanthos

NO WAY, FWD POS car. SORRY IMHO...

Xanthos · 08-16-2008, 12:44 PM

Well, FWD yes, thats true. But if you can get past that, the engine will sound about the same and whatnot - its the same engine but with PFI instead of GDI...
- Xanthos

Muscle Master · 08-16-2008, 01:07 PM

I heard it

Sounds like a Honda Accord, not saying thats a bad thing though

and to me The best damn sounding V6 that GM has is the 3800 series

has anyone heard an Impala accelerate, even the LS trim they sound great

JEFF2010SSMANUAL · 08-16-2008, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanthosV6

Well, FWD yes, thats true. But if you can get past that, the engine will sound about the same and whatnot - its the same engine but with PFI instead of GDI...
- Xanthos

OK for sound I guess so. The G6 is a real POS.

SORRY for being so blunt.

kanys · 08-16-2008, 02:40 PM

Cool, thanks for the suggestions. I guess I'll try the G8, cause being 18 I don't think they will let be in the Caddy lol.

*DGthe3* · 08-16-2008, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JEFF2010SSMANUAL

OK for sound I guess so. The G6 is a real POS.

SORRY for being so blunt.

what makes it so much worse than the Malibu or Aura? Or are they awful too?

FenwickHockey65 · 08-16-2008, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF2010SSMANUAL

OK for sound I guess so. The G6 is a real POS.

SORRY for being so blunt.

The only problem with the G6 is that it's gone so long without a refresh or a redesign. Other than that, it's a perfectly good car, and it sells pretty well too.

kanys · 08-16-2008, 07:20 PM

The G6 may be to some people a "pos", but hey its a cheap, quality car. ^and yeah it could use a little update of some sort.

*DGthe3* · 08-16-2008, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

The only problem with the G6 is that it's gone so long without a refresh or a redesign. Other than that, it's a perfectly good car, and it sells pretty well too.

Wasn't it introduced in 2004 as a 2005 model . . ? Thats not that long ago, at least for GM's refresh cycle. Sure its not exactly brand new, but its not that old either. I'd say its due for a refresh either next year or the year after.

MAROobsession · 08-17-2008, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muscle Master

I heard it

Sounds like a Honda Accord, not saying thats a bad thing though

and to me The best damn sounding V6 that GM has is the 3800 series

has anyone heard an Impala accelerate, even the LS trim they sound great

i doubt it would sound much like an Accord, dont get me wrong i hav a v6 accord and beleive it or not get a handfull of complemets on it. i have full exhaust minus headers (magnaflow mufflers). it sounds deep kind of G35 ish but louder (gruntier). however with the larger displacment i think the camaro would have more of that muscle car sound u get out of say a beefed up mustang v6..... jus my thought.

The_Beast_ · 08-17-2008, 05:01 AM

Well Im getting a pair of exhaust cutouts, so my 6 is gonna be thumpin.

07-28-2008, 02:32 PM	#1
lafountain Drives: 1995 3.8L Camaro Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wichita Falls, TX Posts: 727	Cadillac CTS with same engine Has anyone else gone to a Cadillac dealership just to look and listen to the engine in the CTS? Obviously the drives would be different between the Camaro and the CTS, but I know I was planning on stopping by a dealership sometime just to check out the engine itself. __________________ Hey, you want to lay the fate of the world on the kid's Camaro? That's cool. I bought a car, turned out to be an alien robot. Who knew?

07-28-2008, 02:34 PM	#2
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2012 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 25,227 View My Garage	If they let me into the car....(being ~20, I'm not exactly the type that'd be buying a Caddy...) I'd love to test this thing out. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - - *Read Before You Post.*

07-29-2008, 12:33 AM	#5
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: THRSS #2 / CGM#1 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 24,384 View My Garage	Went to check out the CTS, but not for what was under the hood. __________________

07-29-2008, 10:42 AM	#9
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 20,692	In the family of GM cars, I consider the CTS to be a 'cousin' to the Camaro. The G8 is a sibling. The 5th Gen Trans Am would be its still-born twin. If the CTS has the same engine and same suspension and is of a similar weight, it should provide nearly the same driving experience __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Quote: In 2014 the camaro will have ... a twin turbo v6 ... around 350 to 360HP No. Let me repeat that. No. FbodFather __________________ Camaro5 Fest III Information Camaro5 Fest III pre-registration

08-16-2008, 11:51 AM	#14
Xanthos Almost-Original Postwhore Drives: Stick Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 12,664 View My Garage	Or a G6 GTP might be a good comparison for now. - Xanthos __________________ 1993 Z28 - LT1/M6 Current and Future Modifications

07-28-2008, 10:55 PM	#3
Grape Ape Drives: 96 Bronco w/ a 5 speed Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 296	I would expect the Cadi exhaust to be a lot quieter than what you'll find under a V6 Camaro.

07-28-2008, 11:41 PM	#4
headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,784 View My Garage	i actually think the handling will be very simmilar i have been helping my parents shop for a new CTS and the ordering codes for the suspensions are the same. FE2 is the middle suspension package on the CTS and the Same code for the V6 camaro with the same engine, they are both built on the same chassis. FE3 is the code for the summer tire high performance suspension for the in the caddy and the SS camaro. i have driven the FE3 caddy and i loved it, i hope the camaro drives as well and i will be happy if it isnt even any better (handling wise) then the caddy

08-16-2008, 12:44 PM	#16
Xanthos Almost-Original Postwhore Drives: Stick Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 12,664 View My Garage	Well, FWD yes, thats true. But if you can get past that, the engine will sound about the same and whatnot - its the same engine but with PFI instead of GDI... - Xanthos __________________ 1993 Z28 - LT1/M6 Current and Future Modifications

08-16-2008, 02:40 PM	#19
kanys Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 880	Cool, thanks for the suggestions. I guess I'll try the G8, cause being 18 I don't think they will let be in the Caddy lol.

08-16-2008, 07:20 PM	#22
kanys Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 880	The G6 may be to some people a "pos", but hey its a cheap, quality car. ^and yeah it could use a little update of some sort.

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