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Old 12-10-2009, 11:44 PM   #1
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2010 SS Camaro vs a 1991 GMC Syclone...

My friend is trying to tell me that a stock 1991 GMC V-6 Turbo Syclone (stock) can beat a 2010 SS Camaro (stock) based on youtube videos. The youtube video says stock but i hardly doubt it. Has anyone drove both of these vehicles. Because I believe he is full of crap. Attached is the two youtube videos he is basing it off of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUWLGnnc2TU

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Old 12-11-2009, 12:55 AM   #2
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the Sy/Ty duo were impressive beasts. However, even if you could find one in perfect condition the SS would have the edge by a few tenths. But after the better part of 20 years that engine won't be as powerful as it was when new. It would have hung with the SS to 60 but it would lose ground from then on.
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Old 12-14-2009, 07:18 AM   #3
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I think the Sy's 0-60 in the 5-5.5 second range. So the camaro is quicker.'
The Sy's are monsters off the line but the still only have 280hp.
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Old 12-14-2009, 09:06 AM   #5
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My friend is trying to tell me that a stock 1991 GMC V-6 Turbo Syclone (stock) can beat a 2010 SS Camaro (stock) based on youtube videos. The youtube video says stock but i hardly doubt it. Has anyone drove both of these vehicles. Because I believe he is full of crap. Attached is the two youtube videos he is basing it off of.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXKpm3hwEZ8
the syclone in the video you posted is far from stock, read the videos description for the mods.
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Old 12-14-2009, 09:28 AM   #6
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I rember back when they came out and one mag was saying 0-60 in 4.6

Just checked wiki....
"The Syclone, when new, was capable of accelerating from 0-60 mph in 4.6 seconds and could do a quarter-mile run in 13.4 seconds at 98 mph "

I still love that truck !
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:39 AM   #7
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I rember back when they came out and one mag was saying 0-60 in 4.6

Just checked wiki....
"The Syclone, when new, was capable of accelerating from 0-60 mph in 4.6 seconds and could do a quarter-mile run in 13.4 seconds at 98 mph "

I still love that truck !
yep that is correct, 0-60 in 4.6 seconds. The Typhoon had AWD as well. If you do happen to see one lurking around, chances are it has had an engine rebuild or there are not that many miles on it anyway.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:00 AM   #8
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For many enthusiasts the 1991 Syclone has been a wet dream-literally.GMC transformed its smallest vehicles into quick and nimble performance trucks.
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:45 PM   #9
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i was obsessed with finding a typhoon a few years ago. fast, fast little trucks when modded. i dont know much about turbos so i stayed away...
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:03 PM   #10
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Was the Syclone or Lighting introduced first? Pretty sure it was the Syclone right?
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:19 PM   #11
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Was the Syclone or Lighting introduced first? Pretty sure it was the Syclone right?
I think there was a late 80's Lightning with a 240hp 5.8L V8 good for high 6 or low 7's to 60. A buddy of mine had one, but I just can't remember what year it was. It came from the factory with traction bars on the solid rear axle, and it was pretty hard to break traction with those things. It actually handled pretty well too. Syclone would smoke it obviously.
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:54 PM   #12
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Was the Syclone or Lighting introduced first? Pretty sure it was the Syclone right?
1993 I believe was the first year for the Lightning. Easily confused for an 80's model since Ford used the same body style from the early 80's though 1996, with only slight front clip changes. I had a buddy buy one when they first came out and while quick, they wouldn't touch a Syclone or Typhoon.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:10 PM   #13
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Was the Syclone or Lighting introduced first? Pretty sure it was the Syclone right?
doesn't matter. They all came after the 1978 Dodge Lil' Red Express truck:
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:24 PM   #14
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I drove a Syclone...

I had a Syclone demo one summer when they first came out. It was most definitely very quick. I remember pulling up next to a brand new Dodge Stealth R/T at a light and he was in my rear view mirror from about 50' on to the next light. You could stand on the brakes hard and run the boost up to 5-6 psi on the dash gauge and all four tires would break loose, it would skid sideways a couple of inches and when you let off the brakes, that little truck would accellerate so fast it took your breath away. Everybody wanted to trade me cars for the weekends including the owner. I turned it in when we got a couple feet of snow one weekend for something with more ground clearance.

I haven't driven the new Camaro SS yet, so I couldn't tell you which one was quicker....mine is in town, so I'll get to try it soon. I can give you an 'objective' viewpoint but the two "road tests" are only 19 years apart, so I'd be relying on my memory!
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Old 12-23-2009, 05:47 PM   #15
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noting in the 1990s were fast
unless it was a camaro ls1 at the end of it
i mean yea the lt1 camaros were fast but the trucks were slow
wow
never mind.....
most stuff was slow
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Old 12-23-2009, 09:52 PM   #16
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noting in the 1990s were fast
unless it was a camaro ls1 at the end of it
i mean yea the lt1 camaros were fast but the trucks were slow
wow
never mind.....
most stuff was slow
...sorry, I'd have to disagree with you there...but then, what is your definition of "fast"?
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:51 PM   #17
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...sorry, I'd have to disagree with you there...but then, what is your definition of "fast"?
run at least 14s
lol i didnt mean the stuff built to be fast
but the trucks and cars were slow....
the ones built for speed were most definitely fast
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:54 PM   #18
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run at least 14s
lol i didnt mean the stuff built to be fast
but the trucks and cars were slow....
the ones built for speed were most definitely fast
Thats pretty much true of any time period ... the ones built to be fast are fast, the ones that aren't ... aren't. I don't really understand what you're trying to say.

Back on topic, I was looking for the motorweek review (couldn't find it but I have seen it online ... somewhere) but I did find this on HowStuffWorks.com:
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The 1991-1992 GMC Syclone could blast from 0-60 mph in under 5.0 seconds and rip through the quarter-mile in 13.4.
And here is the famous Car and Driver review where it beat a Ferrari in a drag race. A little bit slower than the time mentioned at howstuff works but still ... for anything in the early 90's it was very impressive.
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Old 12-24-2009, 08:18 AM   #19
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My brother has a Typhoon. He thinks it is pretty fast but doesn't have a lot to compare it to. I drove it, I think if you got the turbo spooled up it would be OK. I think the turbo makes it feel faster than it really is.
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Typhoon vs. Syclone

I drove both (back in the day...) and the Typhoon was only a smidgen slower than the Syclone...the Typhoon simply weighed more. I sold one to a friend that drove a Porsche Carerra four and after he studded the Typhoon, he said it was a much better car for winter roads; the AWD, weight distribution and power made for an awesome little car on icy roads, great fun! I always wanted to get a Typhoon/Syclone chassis and stick it under an early 50's Chevy pickup for an awesome street truck! Wheelbases were almost identical and it would've been a neat/fun project....built a 4WD custom van instead.
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You guys do realize that just like the turbo buicks, you can chip a Sy and be quicker than a 2010 camaro on a tune? Right?
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:51 PM   #22
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So lets say a M6 LS3 camaro with a tune traps about 113-114. A stock syclone traps what...about 100?

You are saying that just a chip is going to give that truck roughly 130+ extra horsepower. (considering 10hp per tenth or 1mph)

No way in hell...not ever.
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would it be fair to run it against a v6 camaro.
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:01 AM   #24
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The Syclones and Typhoons are fast for how old they are dont underestimate them. i had a 92 ty running about 18 psi and it was deadly, untouchable on the launch
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would it be fair to run it against a v6 camaro.

nope..bone stock these trucks were impressive..but simple mods on these things could make them monsters..ive seen one with so much torque its rear bumper hit the ground on the launch, it walked a 03/04 cobra..they are old but a lot of the ones i have seen are owned by enthusiasts too, so they are very very well taken care of and maintained.
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