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Old 07-29-2008, 05:36 AM   #1
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Impossible!!! In Italy New Camaro @60000 Euro!!!

Impossible!!! In Italy New Camaro @60000 Euro!!!
IS CRAZY!!!

http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=150256319498

I want buy this car, but in italy is impossible....!
Wen the car is out and for sale in USA i go to one dealer in USA buy and transport by by in italy...
If the car price is 25000 USD whit trasport+tax and other i pay only 30000 !!1
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Old 07-29-2008, 05:52 AM   #2
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Wow.. another wonderful EBAY "SCAM"... If someone purchases it before it even hits the production line... just tell me how AWESOME it is to drive, and be seen in.... LMAO!
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:00 AM   #3
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DeeJay, you might want to wait until they're released and find a country that's selling them in Europe. eBay is probably the worst place to pick one up ESPECIALLY during the first year or so. People are going to try and jack the price up to make some cash. If I could buy a v8 for around $30,000 USD and sell it to someone for $60,000, it means that when I go to buy the camaro I want, I'll be able to get it for free since that's the profit I made from selling the first one.

1. Wait a while if your local car deealership is selling them,
2. try not to buy from someone that's obviously trying to make money by "selling their spot" so to speak
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:55 AM   #4
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Hi boy, tanks for accortence!

I have called chevrolet Italy, and the car is not saled directly in Italy. but whit a external import dealer...
Wen i want buy, i go in the usa and buy, whit help on my friend (have a doble residence). Hes buy the car, trasport in italy and resell to me. In this metod, the tax, trasport and new plate cost me only 4000 USD (c.a. 2500 EUR)!!

Excuseme for my english, but i have only study by me...!
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:07 AM   #5
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Yes but we do know that some of Europe (maybe only England) is getting the Camaro, so why transport it across the ocean if you don't have to.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:10 AM   #6
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First off, it's ILLEGAL to export new GM vehicles overseas. I go through this all the time with people wanting to buy Corvettes and Z06's and ship them to EU. And secondly, one of us needs to contact e-bay and have them remove anything that has to do with a 2010 Camaro because I'm sure that these people are doing something illegal as well.

The General does not like the idea of people being able to buy things cheap over here where the market is somewhat soft on domestic vehicles and then transport them to a place where the same vehicles sells for tweice the money right off the showroom floor.

ie. 2007 pre-owned Corvette coupe 3LT with say 4,000 miles
US value: $45,000
Romanian Value: $150,000 (roughly)

The only way to get the GM vehiles overseas is to:
a) Buy them USED
b) Title it in the states, pay taxes on it, keep it for 5 or 6 months, PAY IT OFF and then do what you will
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c) Break the law and risk fines and jail time

As far as this e-bay guy, report him immediately so they cancel his account.
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:34 AM   #7
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^But hold on then. Are you saying that the import firms that sell new imported vehicles are in fact breaking the law in organized form? Or are the laws different in Canada (I know for a fact that one firm takes in cars via Canada)?

As for the pricing, DeeJay, I wouldn't worry just yet. The few ads I've seen for it at this point have it qouted at 560 000 Swedish Crownes. For comparison a brand new imported Mustang costs roughly 350 000 Swedish Crownes. That's ONE HELL of a difference. I think it's just price goughers who aim to squeeze out every penny of buyers while they can at the start of sales.
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:59 AM   #8
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^But hold on then. Are you saying that the import firms that sell new imported vehicles are in fact breaking the law in organized form? Or are the laws different in Canada (I know for a fact that one firm takes in cars via Canada)?
That's different. GM has extentions in other parts of the world. GM Canada, and GM Europe for example. They're all GM, but they operate seperate from the "Mother Company". They are authorized to sell cars throughout THEIR dealer networks. But because of exchange rates, etc...the prices are higher. So GM understandibly frowns on people from Europe importing a US-spec (and priced) vehicle...
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:01 PM   #9
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First off, it's ILLEGAL to export new GM vehicles overseas. I go through this all the time with people wanting to buy Corvettes and Z06's and ship them to EU. And secondly, one of us needs to contact e-bay and have them remove anything that has to do with a 2010 Camaro because I'm sure that these people are doing something illegal as well.

The General does not like the idea of people being able to buy things cheap over here where the market is somewhat soft on domestic vehicles and then transport them to a place where the same vehicles sells for tweice the money right off the showroom floor.

ie. 2007 pre-owned Corvette coupe 3LT with say 4,000 miles
US value: $45,000
Romanian Value: $150,000 (roughly)

The only way to get the GM vehiles overseas is to:
a) Buy them USED
b) Title it in the states, pay taxes on it, keep it for 5 or 6 months, PAY IT OFF and then do what you will
or
c) Break the law and risk fines and jail time

As far as this e-bay guy, report him immediately so they cancel his account.
The General should be ashamed of the price differences.... Why should the same product be 300% more expensive in another country ?

Please explain why it has to be titled, and remain in the states for 5 to 6 months ??
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:03 PM   #10
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Whaat ?
60k euro is nothing compared to Denmark, a dodge srt-8 which is around 40k in the US, is 180-200k dollars here wich is around 115k euros in Denmark it just crazy

btw we dont use Euro, we use Danish Krones
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Old 07-30-2008, 12:14 AM   #11
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Whatever you call them, they sure sound like a tasty treat!
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Old 07-30-2008, 12:57 AM   #12
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Whatever you call them, they sure sound like a tasty treat!
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Old 07-30-2008, 05:42 AM   #13
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Um.. there are hundreds of companies here that import vehicles from the US brand new and most have no affiliation with GM/Ford etc - so I can't see it being illegal. It's only importing a car! Besides, we still have to pay all the relavant taxes/VAT etc so everyone gets their money.
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:41 PM   #14
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^But hold on then. Are you saying that the import firms that sell new imported vehicles are in fact breaking the law in organized form? Or are the laws different in Canada (I know for a fact that one firm takes in cars via Canada)?

As for the pricing, DeeJay, I wouldn't worry just yet. The few ads I've seen for it at this point have it qouted at 560 000 Swedish Crownes. For comparison a brand new imported Mustang costs roughly 350 000 Swedish Crownes. That's ONE HELL of a difference. I think it's just price goughers who aim to squeeze out every penny of buyers while they can at the start of sales.
I can't buy a new car in the US. I don't know if Canadian dealers are allowed to sell to other countries. However, an American can buy a new car and I could buy it from them 'used', I think. I imagine this is how exporters work.
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:36 AM   #15
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The General should be ashamed of the price differences.... Why should the same product be 300% more expensive in another country ?
it's not completely GMs fault for instance a '90s 300zx (sorry but it's the only one i've seen used as an example) had a MSRP of 28,000-33,000 over here but in Europe it was about 70,000 (I'm not sure if that was MSRP or actual selling price) because of all the fee's for importing one so comparatively a 30k Camaro going for 60K (it doesn't say what model) isn't that bad
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Unless I've been misinformed, once the car is in a buyer's possession, the buyer has sole legal rights to the vehicle. The title is a verification of this. It is only illegal to import without paying the taxes. If someone gets a good deal by using import methods, they are just probably breaking a law of a different nature, like improperly titling it, not registering it in their country, or failing to modify the car to fit local standards. I could be wrong, but my understanding is that any property owner can sell that property at discretion, including expensive machines like cars.
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From bottom of page 6 in August 4, 2008 issue of AutoWeek:

ZR1 TOPS $200,000 IN EUROPE
Chevrolet's 2009 Corvette ZR1 will sticker for twice as much in Europe as it will in the United States. Dutch importer Kroymans, which handles Corvette sales in Europe, said the ZR1 will have a sticker price of 136,000 Euros. At current exchange rates, that equals $214,146.64, more than double the car's $105,000 sticker in the United States. GM expects to export 70 ZR1s to Europe this year and about 150 units in a full year. Last year, Corvette sales totaled 1,244 units in Europe.
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Old 08-03-2008, 01:22 PM   #18
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From bottom of page 6 in August 4, 2008 issue of AutoWeek:

ZR1 TOPS $200,000 IN EUROPE
Chevrolet's 2009 Corvette ZR1 will sticker for twice as much in Europe as it will in the United States. Dutch importer Kroymans, which handles Corvette sales in Europe, said the ZR1 will have a sticker price of 136,000 Euros. At current exchange rates, that equals $214,146.64, more than double the car's $105,000 sticker in the United States. GM expects to export 70 ZR1s to Europe this year and about 150 units in a full year. Last year, Corvette sales totaled 1,244 units in Europe.
That....IS....RIDICULOUS.
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Still cheaper than the other supercars...
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Yup - the ZR1 is £100,000 here in the UK... that's around $200,000. Stupid? HELL yes. I saw it at the weekend and it's looks like a £50k car - which is IS (sorry for the big letters but it's a big point to make!). Twice that? No - I mean, the GT-R is £50k so why isn't the ZR-1? Madness...
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