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Old 12-15-2009, 10:23 PM   #1
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Z28: Myth or Reality?

I keep reading about the Z28 being in the works or on the drawing board. Does anyone know FOR SURE if this car is going to be made? What it looks like? How much it will cost? When it will be produced?

If it's for real, I think I might try to talk my wife into selling the Mustang. On the other hand, the 2010 Mustang GT is really nice and I'm thinking of dropping a Ford Racing supercharger in it (resulting in either 400 rwhp or 475 rwhp). It would cost between $5000 to $7000 (installed). I suppose it will be her decision ultimately. My wife has always been a Camaro girl (except for the 2010).

Please note: I'm NOT trying to stir up a debate about her choice of the Mustang over the Camaro - please don't start flaming her decision or how the Mustang sucks. Anyway, if anyone has accurate info on the Z28, to include HP ratings (rear wheel), please post-up! Thanks.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:25 PM   #2
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yep here it is...



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GM is not responding quick enough to customer demand, this has happened all to often in the past. I really hate to say that I find Chrysler with the Challenger and Ford with Mustang got to the market to serve the wants of the public. Hey lets face it - he who sells first sells most, most of the time!

So we need to let the General know we want Z28 and Convertibles now, not in 2 years. In 2 years I would be buying my next Z28 or Convertible.

GM get in the race or pull over and let others pass you by, please dont disappoint the dedicated Z and vert fans!
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:47 PM   #4
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yep here it is...



truth is.... no one will ever know!!!
Now is this a concept car pic or the real thing? Is it going to be made and if so, when?
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:48 PM   #5
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GM is not responding quick enough to customer demand, this has happened all to often in the past. I really hate to say that I find Chrysler with the Challenger and Ford with Mustang got to the market to serve the wants of the public. Hey lets face it - he who sells first sells most, most of the time!

So we need to let the General know we want Z28 and Convertibles now, not in 2 years. In 2 years I would be buying my next Z28 or Convertible.

GM get in the race or pull over and let others pass you by, please dont disappoint the dedicated Z and vert fans!
I think you'd be a lot more disappointed with it when you receive it early but the engine explodes due to poor R&D. Let them take their time. They have good reason to do so.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:59 PM   #6
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GM is not responding quick enough to customer demand, this has happened all to often in the past. I really hate to say that I find Chrysler with the Challenger and Ford with Mustang got to the market to serve the wants of the public. Hey lets face it - he who sells first sells most, most of the time!

So we need to let the General know we want Z28 and Convertibles now, not in 2 years. In 2 years I would be buying my next Z28 or Convertible.

GM get in the race or pull over and let others pass you by, please dont disappoint the dedicated Z and vert fans!
this probably coming from someone that knows nothing of the development of a car.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:59 PM   #7
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:00 PM   #8
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Now is this a concept car pic or the real thing? Is it going to be made and if so, when?
that's someones photoshop. like has been said there's been no official word. but with so much rumor mill going on about it. It must be real.
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:01 PM   #9
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It will be at least a year behind the convertible, and it won't be cheap. but it will be fast!
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:16 PM   #10
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this probably coming from someone that knows nothing of the development of a car.
Engine development sucks up a huge amount of time! Well said.
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I keep reading about the Z28 being in the works or on the drawing board. Does anyone know FOR SURE if this car is going to be made? Yes, there are people who know for sure if it is going to be made. What it looks like? They probably know that too. How much it will cost? That gets decided a few months before its released. When it will be produced not for a while?

Anyway, if anyone has accurate info on the Z28, to include HP ratings (rear wheel), please post-up! Thanks. The engine has not been made definate yet, so we don't even know the crank numbers. How could it be possible to provide wheel numbers on a car that does not currently exist?
Those are the facts. Anything beyond that is speculation, though there is a good chance it will cost about $50,000, outhandle any Mustang you can buy from Ford, and have a 550+ hp engine.

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GM is not responding quick enough to customer demand, this has happened all to often in the past. I really hate to say that I find Chrysler with the Challenger and Ford with Mustang got to the market to serve the wants of the public. Hey lets face it - he who sells first sells most, most of the time!

So we need to let the General know we want Z28 and Convertibles now, not in 2 years. In 2 years I would be buying my next Z28 or Convertible.

GM get in the race or pull over and let others pass you by, please dont disappoint the dedicated Z and vert fans!
In case you didn't notice, GM's had a bit of a money problem lately. That slows down the development of low volume niche vehicles. On top of that there was the supplier for the convertible mechanism that went bankrupt forcing GM to find a new one.

At any rate, you can call them, write them a letter, show up at their corporate office, anything you want to get the message to them that you want those cars NOW and it won't do a thing to speed up the process. It is a massive cost to hurry the development of something ahead of its current schedule. Delays and catch-up bursts are costly enough as is, but cutting the remaining timeline by 50%? I wouldn't be surprised if it cost more than they would profit by selling those cars.
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Ya think they will just drop a supercharger on a ss and call it a z28?
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Old 12-16-2009, 06:51 PM   #14
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Ya think they will just drop a supercharger on a ss and call it a z28?
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absolutely not. That goes completely against what the Z28 means to nearly everyone. For the Z28, handling was the primary concern followed by power. Simply adding a supercharger would be more in-line with a ZL1 or SS nameplate than Z28.
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Old 12-23-2009, 04:16 PM   #15
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GM is not responding quick enough to customer demand, this has happened all to often in the past. I really hate to say that I find Chrysler with the Challenger and Ford with Mustang got to the market to serve the wants of the public. Hey lets face it - he who sells first sells most, most of the time!

So we need to let the General know we want Z28 and Convertibles now, not in 2 years. In 2 years I would be buying my next Z28 or Convertible.

GM get in the race or pull over and let others pass you by, please dont disappoint the dedicated Z and vert fans!
I agree and disagree... So what if it takes time to develop the car? The fact is Dodge and Ford can do it, but GM just keeps hurting themselves. Discontinuing ABM Camaro (one of the best looking colors in my opinion on the 2010 Camaro)....Green only available in 1LT (no RS OR V8 or even 2LT?)....Not producing the V6 in manual (at first dealerships were only getting automatics)...

I know the company is having problems, but I really think they are causing them. They really need to read what their customers are saying and give the public what they want. The development of a car takes time. Understood. And I personally don't think there is a better car out there right now than the 2010 Camaro, so if it takes them time, so be it. But, on the other hand, they really need to give the public what they want.
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Old 12-23-2009, 04:34 PM   #16
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so i dont understand. are they making the Z28 faster than the SS ? i always thought that the SS should of been the fastest camaro?
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so i dont understand. are they making the Z28 faster than the SS ? i always thought that the SS should of been the fastest camaro?
Last time the Camaro was in production this was true. However, whats happening this time is GM came to the conclusion that every Chevy can have a Super Sport version or SS, like the Cobalt, HHR, Impala, etc. However, there is only one car that can be a Z28, and that's a Camaro. As a result of this thinking, if the Z28 see's the light of day (Which I think it will sooner or later) it will be the top of the line Camaro.

Now there is a Crevat to that, it is possible that the top dog engine wise would be a "ZL1" or something, and then they would make a Z28 that would be like a leaner track car.

But pretty sure that if they only make a Z28 in the near future it will be the highest trim level on the car.
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