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Old 12-16-2009, 07:05 PM   #26
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I wasn't thinking "green" when I bought my SS...but that's just me.
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Old 12-16-2009, 07:54 PM   #27
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What crap. ? I did my own at 3000 miles and put it through a coffee filter. Nothing!

Then sent it out for analysis ...............still nothing. "Detected " silicone at low levels.

Unless you are really mashing the gears, changing the others is a waste and not very green.
Did you look in the pan/bucket you drained the oil into? I am basing my statement on the first oil change I did on my 08 Zx14 (motorcycle) with 85 miles on it bought new by me. Oil was clean but the catch pan had metal pieces in it. I would have to say Kawasaki makes a pretty dayam good motor with good tolerances and QC much like what I envision the Camaro motor to have. Again for $60 I am changing my oil.
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:29 PM   #28
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I changed my oil around 1500 miles and could have collected you lots of metal shavings! I don't mash my car, gears, or anything else. Diff fluid was murky, but no shavings I could see. Tran fluid looked ok...those 2 won't be changed very often.
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What crap. ? I did my own at 3000 miles and put it through a coffee filter. Nothing!

Then sent it out for analysis ...............still nothing. "Detected " silicone at low levels.

Unless you are really mashing the gears, changing the others is a waste and not very green.
I am not very green because I changed my oil at 500. WOW!

You don't know the recycling I do so pfft
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:55 AM   #30
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Run your Cammy at 2400 Km for "Engine Break-In" period then Engine Oil Service Intervals @ every 5000km.

Im on 700km and I really have the urge to full-throttle the beast but I dont wanna risk it lol

The maximum speed Im maintaining: 140km/h @ 4700rpm
(does that sound right anyone or can I push it further as im still on engine break-in period?)
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Old 12-17-2009, 02:49 AM   #31
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If you put the old used oil thru a white paper coffee filter and you see nothing, there will be nothing in the bottom of the pail.

When they took the lead out of the gas it did become possible to go longer between changes. The same reason the plugs last longer. These are not like our dad's 55 Chev.
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Run your Cammy at 2400 Km for "Engine Break-In" period then Engine Oil Service Intervals @ every 5000km.

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Yes.......in the desert with sand and heat. The owners manual you paid for says that.
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Yes.......in the desert with sand and heat. The owners manual you paid for says that.
Whats the desert & sand got to do with anythin rudeboy?
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:38 AM   #34
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Well for about ever...........GM has stated in their owners manual that if you drive "regularly in areas with higher temperatures " OR in areas with lots of sand in the air OR if you tow with a truck in areas like that you should use the shorter oil change interval.

Nothing rude about it.....Just the facts Jack!
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If you put the old used oil thru a white paper coffee filter and you see nothing, there will be nothing in the bottom of the pail.

When they took the lead out of the gas it did become possible to go longer between changes. The same reason the plugs last longer. These are not like our dad's 55 Chev.
I beg to differ because the initial shavings that you may get are too heavy to be suspended in the oil. These are not particulate but actual pieces. No matter how clean you get an engine during assembly you are still going to have shavings come off during break in when the parts seat and "marry" together. Also you may have assembly crap in channels and crannies that are overlooked. For the approximate cost of a weeks worth of lattes I can pretty much guarentee my motor will be clean after 500 miles. Cheap insurance.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:57 AM   #36
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do a burnout off the dealer lot. push the car hard for the first 500 miles, change the oil, then enjoy it.
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I agree... if are going to drive them hard. Break them in hard.

I have done that on all my 22 new GM cars and the engines and trannies have never given me any problems and I got higher than expected gas mileage. ( except my 97 Northstar that had 1100 " demo" miles on it when I got it. Went thru oil too fast.

This was the only time I have ever bothered to get an oil analysis and it came back zero.( except for trace of silicone)
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:05 AM   #38
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Some of these guys drove off from the dealer with the gas pedal mashed to the floor and haven't let up since

They change the oil at 500 miles and what is left of the tires at 1000 miles
LOL!

The manual is pretty useless for determining exactly when to change your oil. The default should be the DIC.

Changing at 500 is pretty much throwing $ out the window. If GM was worried about shavings, they would have addressed it in the manual...caveat...if you're changing your tires every 1000 miles then change your oil every 500 miles.
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LOL!

The manual is pretty useless for determining exactly when to change your oil. The default should be the DIC.

Changing at 500 is pretty much throwing $ out the window. If GM was worried about shavings, they would have addressed it in the manual...caveat...if you're changing your tires every 1000 miles then change your oil every 500 miles.

you've never built an engine before have you? I've changed oil after 20 miles, 50 miles, 20 minutes, 60 minutes, 30 minutes, 100 miles, 250 miles from first start up. no engine is exactly the same, modern engine assembly techniques have improved significantly over the years. and most everyone who waits till the DIC says to change their oil will never have a problem. but ya never know. better safe changing it early after beating on it a little than worry down the road that your rings never seated properly and now you are eating oil
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you've never built an engine before have you? I've changed oil after 20 miles, 50 miles, 20 minutes, 60 minutes, 30 minutes, 100 miles, 250 miles from first start up. no engine is exactly the same, modern engine assembly techniques have improved significantly over the years. and most everyone who waits till the DIC says to change their oil will never have a problem. but ya never know. better safe changing it early after beating on it a little than worry down the road that your rings never seated properly and now you are eating oil
You are partially correct. Only built 60's and 70's engines. Engines built today are far more advanced that those of yesteryear. And my initial comments are based on driving the car lightly during break-in, not balls to the wall. Those type of break ins warrant early changes.
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Well for about ever...........GM has stated in their owners manual that if you drive "regularly in areas with higher temperatures " OR in areas with lots of sand in the air OR if you tow with a truck in areas like that you should use the shorter oil change interval.

Nothing rude about it.....Just the facts Jack!
What is your point exactly... it seems you talk too much
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