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Old 12-18-2009, 04:16 PM   #1
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V6 BEING TUNED TODAY!

Vince at Trifecta Performance is tuning one of the Beta volunteers V6 Camaros today. I will post results and the dyno graph as soon as he gets back to me. Vince is currently the only one tuning the V6 Camaro. Hopefully we are going to see some nice power gains.
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:27 PM   #2
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Hmm...they don't have anything on their website about working on the V6.

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Old 12-18-2009, 04:31 PM   #4
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Hmm...they don't have anything on their website about working on the V6.

I did the beta for the V8/L99 and speak with Vince almost daily. We spoke this morning as he was on the way to the dyno.
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Vince at Trifecta Performance is tuning one of the Beta volunteers V6 Camaros today. I will post results and the dyno graph as soon as he gets back to me. Vince is currently the only one tuning the V6 Camaro. Hopefully we are going to see some nice power gains.
Very cool....

I wouldn't exactly say he is the only one tuning... Technically it's not available to the general public... And I know other companies are certainly working on it... While he may be ahead as far as being first to market, the other guys are probably not that far behind...
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:33 PM   #6
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Very cool....

I wouldn't exactly say he is the only one tuning... Technically it's not available to the general public... And I know other companies are certainly working on it... While he may be ahead as far as being first to market, the other guys are probably not that far behind...
True. Should have said at this time.
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I did the beta for the V8/L99 and speak with Vince almost daily. We spoke this morning as he was on the way to the dyno.
Thanks for keeping us posted! There will be a lot of excitement here if he's successful!
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Old 12-18-2009, 05:29 PM   #8
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Vince at Trifecta Performance is tuning one of the Beta volunteers V6 Camaros today. I will post results and the dyno graph as soon as he gets back to me. Vince is currently the only one tuning the V6 Camaro. Hopefully we are going to see some nice power gains.
Thanks for giving us hope!
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:04 PM   #9
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I'm next! Scrming and myself are on the list to test the tune when Vince gets it dialed in a bit! I'm ready... I did the baselines yesterday (with some interesting results) which I'll post up tomorrow... we had our Christmas party today so I'm "not 100%" at present! hehe! or, should I say, HoHo!
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:21 PM   #10
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Here it is… This was a bone stock car other than an AirRaid intake.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:38 PM   #11
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Very nice! I assume the bulk of the increase is due to running more timing for premimum fuel? Anything else you can comment on regarding what was changed?

edit - wow, I just realized these guys are based out of the same little town I live in. Good to know there is a tuner close by.

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Old 12-18-2009, 11:38 PM   #12
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Here it is… This was a bone stock car other than an AirRaid intake.
24HP/23TQ
Whoa, those are some decent gains!
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Old 12-19-2009, 02:20 AM   #13
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I was the lucky volunteer - WooHoo!

Wow, good news travels fast - the dyno chart posted here is from my automatic SIM 2LT/RS. This was the first time that I'd had a car on a dyno - it was really cool. To be honest, I did have a bit of hesitation, but the rewards were well worth it.

We did a quick baseline on my car with the original stock ECM, and then he swapped out the stock for his ECM, and we were off to the races.

He went thru multiple pulls making adjustments each time, answering any ( and all ) questions that I might have had. If my memory serves, he adusted the fuel/air tables and the cam phasing, and you see the gains that were had. We ran out of time, but other adjustments were on the menu - shift points, fan temps, etc. I'm fairly sure that there's more fun to be had.

Regarding the fuel: When I arrived at Drift Office I had 3/4 of a tank of 87 octane, and he suggested that I top if off with 92 octane, which I did. I have no objective way of knowing what difference that might have made.

When all was said and done, we did a quick drive to get a "butt dyno" feel for it, and the car felt more willing to rev and once you get it up past 3K rpms or so, everything wakes up very nicely.

While the car was up on the lift, we noticed a minor rear diff leak, so I'm going to be taking it in to the dealer for service. To that end, we put my stock ECM back in place, and I can certainly tell the difference. Once the dealer service is done, I'll be re-loading the new tune. I can't wait!

Thanks to Vince, and the good folks at Drift Office.


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“Here’s dyno results from what we believe to be the first aftermarket-tuned 2010 Camaro V6. Peak gains were 24HP and 17TQ at the wheels, almost a 10% gain. The car was bone stock other than an AirRaid intake. Tuned by Trifecta Performance using their own tuning solution along with Palmer Performance’s ScanXL data logger package. Dyno services were provided by Drift Office LLC of Auburn, WA.”

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Old 12-19-2009, 03:07 AM   #14
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So the gain was 24hp and 17 tq not 23 tq correct?
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:26 AM   #15
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So the gain was 24hp and 17 tq not 23 tq correct?
250-233=17 Very nice gains!
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:01 AM   #16
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Very cool stuff!

As for the rear differential leak... mine have a very slight leak on the passenger side side... not enough to really drip but enough that you can tell it has a very slight leak... Scott (MRT) and I were talking about this the last time my car was on the hoist... Scott commented that the car's diff unit looked an awful lot like a Mercedes unit and that basically they (meaning Mercedes) all leaked...

So all that being said I wonder how many of us have diffs that are weeping... as for me I think I'll just leave it as is... I'm really hesitant to have the dealership doing anything... I would have to have them screw things up trying to fix it!
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:32 AM   #17
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Does the airaid account for 11 of the RWHP and 14lbs of torque? Did you dyno after adding the airaid for new base reading?

Those numbers above are what Airaid boasts for their V6 CAI...They seem high to me but just rying to see what gains you got from CAI and then tuning?

thanks and congrats!
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Does the airaid account for 11 of the RWHP and 14lbs of torque? Did you dyno after adding the airaid for new base reading?

Those numbers above are what Airaid boasts for their V6 CAI...They seem high to me but just rying to see what gains you got from CAI and then tuning?

thanks and congrats!
Appears the base line was WITH the Airaid... No mention that they added the Airaid... just that that car already had one...
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Old 12-19-2009, 09:21 AM   #19
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Old 12-19-2009, 10:59 AM   #21
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the price for the tune on their website is 400 dollars

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Old 12-19-2009, 11:18 AM   #22
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Hmmm.....wonder how a good set of headers would of affected the initial tune.

Based on the baseline, it seems the airaid didn't add much other than sound.

In any case, this is a huge first step...and I can't wait to tune mine after the warranty period!
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Old 12-19-2009, 11:25 AM   #23
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Hmmm.....wonder how a good set of headers would of affected the initial tune.

Based on the baseline, it seems the airaid didn't add much other than sound.

In any case, this is a huge first step...and I can't wait to tune mine after the warranty period!
at 100,000 miles????
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Old 12-19-2009, 11:26 AM   #24
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Hmmm.....wonder how a good set of headers would of affected the initial tune.

Based on the baseline, it seems the airaid didn't add much other than sound.

In any case, this is a huge first step...and I can't wait to tune mine after the warranty period!
I'm with you on the warranty issue but 4+ yrs is a long wait. May have to reevaluate my concerns.
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i plan on going to lingenfelter and picking up their 3 year 36000 mile warranty. and u would still have your wear and tear warranty from gm.
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