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Old 12-02-2008, 12:24 PM   #26
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This is like asking who makes the best speakers, you will get 1 million opinions all different. Everyone hears differently and wants different things from their exhaust. I can say that you likely wont notice any performance difference between any of these systems (as long as they are the same size) although they would like to claim otherwise. It comes down to sound which the site mentioned above is great for, and that is BY FAR your best bet. That said more expensive exhausts I have noticed, eliminate the idle drone that makes your brain hurt when you are sitting at a traffic light. For example I had a Corsa on my C5 that was great, nice quiet rumble at idle, and then ripped open at full tilt. In contrast IMO Flowmasters sound like crap, they are a cheap exhaust that is way too loud and droney, and not a tuned sound just a loud for the sake of being loud sound.

Like I said, listen to as many as you can then make your decision.
At least on a lot of cars I've heard that had mostly stock exhaust (i.e. manifolds, cats', OEM piping) they just sounded really crappy as the RPMs went up. That could be different with this car, and once you start throwing mods' on it, but the drone I've had with the ones I've run just wasn't cool. They were only enjoyable when I wanted to be loud, just because I wanted to at that time.
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At least on a lot of cars I've heard that had mostly stock exhaust (i.e. manifolds, cats', OEM piping) they just sounded really crappy as the RPMs went up. That could be different with this car, and once you start throwing mods' on it, but the drone I've had with the ones I've run just wasn't cool. They were only enjoyable when I wanted to be loud, just because I wanted to at that time.
I have one that will be worse... I'm restoring a 69 Plymouth Roadrunner 440 for my dad, the exhaust was ok 5 years ago when i got it but has since rotted, so he wants to go the cherry bomb route! I'm like dad your eardrums are gonna explode!
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I have one that will be worse... I'm restoring a 69 Plymouth Roadrunner 440 for my dad, the exhaust was ok 5 years ago when i got it but has since rotted, so he wants to go the cherry bomb route! I'm like dad your eardrums are gonna explode!

Glasspacks....gotta love 'em....simple, little back pressure, but damn loud. Had some Thrush on my '69 383 Roadrunner. Personally I liked the deep sound of running them with no tailpipes. Suppose designs today have progressed way beyong fiberglass, so this decision's gonna take some listening at LS1 Sounds.
Good luck with the restore! I'm more than a bit envious....and, hey, a classic muscle car needs a classic exhaust - go with the Cherry Bombs!!!!!

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Glasspacks....gotta love 'em....simple, little back pressure, but damn loud. Had some Thrush on my '69 383 Roadrunner. Personally I liked the deep sound of running them with no tailpipes. Suppose designs today have progressed way beyong fiberglass, so this decision's gonna take some listening at LS1 Sounds.
Good luck with the restore! I'm more than a bit envious....and, hey, a classic muscle car needs a classic exhaust - go with the Cherry Bombs!!!!!
The car was a 383 car originally, prior owner dropped in a 440. Blue Fire Metallic, 4 speed. Oh and identical to the car my dad bought new in 69.

Hey its his car, he wants cherry bombs, i'll put cherry bombs on it. Sounded like a top fuel car 4 years ago (last time it actually ran). Just finished dropping the motor back in a month ago, done for the winter....
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I have borlas but have fell in love with magnaflows, and thats the first mod I'm doing when I get my chally
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:59 AM   #31
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i havn't delt with exhaust modding a whole lot, but on my 540i i deleted both resonators and added a magnaflow - all i can say is that the germans went through a lot of trouble making it quite, and that magnaflow really helps the V-8 tone out

i can only imagine what they could do for an american muscle car !
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I am leaning towards magna flow, or borla as a second pic. I think corsa sound too ricey to me and I worked at a harley shop and had nothing but problems with fit and finish with bassani. I am looking for a low muscular sound, not neccisarily loud. With all this said, I am interested in hearing the final finished exhaust sounds for the 6 and 8 stock. They did put a ton of research into the exhaust sound, so maybe it might be really nice sounding.
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At least on a lot of cars I've heard that had mostly stock exhaust (i.e. manifolds, cats', OEM piping) they just sounded really crappy as the RPMs went up. That could be different with this car, and once you start throwing mods' on it, but the drone I've had with the ones I've run just wasn't cool. They were only enjoyable when I wanted to be loud, just because I wanted to at that time.
Flowmaster catbacks..... for some reason suck balls on 4th gen f-bodys. nasty, raspy tone and actually proven that they dont give the same hp gains as other catbacks.


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I am leaning towards magna flow, or borla as a second pic. I think corsa sound too ricey to me and I worked at a harley shop and had nothing but problems with fit and finish with bassani. I am looking for a low muscular sound, not neccisarily loud. With all this said, I am interested in hearing the final finished exhaust sounds for the 6 and 8 stock. They did put a ton of research into the exhaust sound, so maybe it might be really nice sounding.
If you want the deep, low, note I think you'll be happy with MagnaFlow
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I am leaning towards magna flow, or borla as a second pic. I think corsa sound too ricey to me and I worked at a harley shop and had nothing but problems with fit and finish with bassani. I am looking for a low muscular sound, not neccisarily loud. With all this said, I am interested in hearing the final finished exhaust sounds for the 6 and 8 stock. They did put a ton of research into the exhaust sound, so maybe it might be really nice sounding.
Good point. They did put a lot of research into the stock sound - Fourier Transform and all. With a little luck, we may just like the stock pipe's sound good enough we can all save some money. But I'd also really like to hear the LPO performance exhaust before deciding. Don't know how that's going to be possible!?!


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One word of caution for those of us that have ordered the automatic transmission, wait a while before making a decision on which exhaust to put in if you are looking to do this mod. The A/T model cuts to 4 cylinders in certain situations, I had a Chrysler 300C that did the same thing. This becomes a challenge to exhaust manufacturers as when it goes into the 4 cylinder mode a slight "drone" is created, a sort of a low level hum. Stock systems take this into consideration and keeps the drone to a minimum. If you put certain systems in the low level drone becomes an unbearably loud hum when it kicks into 4 cylinder. There were several exhaust systems that were created for the 300 that addressed that issue so hopefully they will replicate it for the camaro. Some 300C owners just put in long tubes and were satisfied with the results.
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Camarospike, whats up with the wiggly exhaust that makes it sound so much better? Does it ever pop open on the road?

EDIT: Ok now I get it, automatic/manual cutout. Very clever.
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I think it's that crossflow that jacks everything up. If you were to install a standard single in single/dual out, that would be different, but I've just always heard this really whispy sound that was always crappy to my ear. It wasn't a good tone at all.

Regarding the AFM on the autos' making drone - I wonder if the GMPP catback will take care of that. It's stated it meets all noise requirements and such. I say go for the off-road catback instead
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One word of caution for those of us that have ordered the automatic transmission, wait a while before making a decision on which exhaust to put in if you are looking to do this mod. The A/T model cuts to 4 cylinders in certain situations, I had a Chrysler 300C that did the same thing. This becomes a challenge to exhaust manufacturers as when it goes into the 4 cylinder mode a slight "drone" is created, a sort of a low level hum. Stock systems take this into consideration and keeps the drone to a minimum. If you put certain systems in the low level drone becomes an unbearably loud hum when it kicks into 4 cylinder. There were several exhaust systems that were created for the 300 that addressed that issue so hopefully they will replicate it for the camaro. Some 300C owners just put in long tubes and were satisfied with the results.
GM has been working on the exhaust for the L99 for quite some time now to make sure it is the best.
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EDIT: Ok now I get it, automatic/manual cutout. Very clever.
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I think it's that crossflow that jacks everything up. If you were to install a standard single in single/dual out, that would be different, but I've just always heard this really whispy sound that was always crappy to my ear. It wasn't a good tone at all.

Regarding the AFM on the autos' making drone - I wonder if the GMPP catback will take care of that. It's stated it meets all noise requirements and such. I say go for the off-road catback instead

yeah, I've seen true dual setups with dual mufflers that sound decent, but the catback systems as a whole from flowmaster suck ass
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do you think it would be too crazy to tune out afm to add a loud exhaust? i plan on doing that if it doesnt completely kill gas mileage(which i dont think it will)
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do you think it would be too crazy to tune out afm to add a loud exhaust? i plan on doing that if it doesnt completely kill gas mileage(which i dont think it will)
well, just tuning it out will only make a difference when it would normally go to 4cyl mode as far as the sound goes.

with the AFM system in the car you have a different lifter setup and a slightly different cam grind, which.... if you dont care for afm in the car at all, you might as well swap to the hot cam and swap the lifters out as well.
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i was planning on doing that also, i dont want to have to have a quiet exhaust to cover up the afm, i would just rather not have it
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Good Exhaust system for LS3 SS

Hey guys. Ordered the SS LS3 with the Hurst STS. I know this might have been mentioned before but i was wondering what a good exhaust sytem would be for the LS3. Im not too sure i want to change the stock sytem but if I do want to change it down the road I would like some ideas. Corsa, Flowmaster, Magnaflow...? any ideas?
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i was planning on doing that also, i dont want to have to have a quiet exhaust to cover up the afm, i would just rather not have it
then get the manual....



seriously tho, short of swapping the whole cat-back to an aftermarket system, you could pull the mufflers, cut the baffling out, then reinstall them.
also you would have to check with GM about removing the AFM from the car, tho if you are swapping the lifters and cam anyway, then you wont need to worry too much about your warranty.... unless you pay someone to do it.


I honestly feel that a lot of people will enjoy the sound of the 4cyl mode when cruising. then there will be some that would rather have the constant drone at highway speeds.
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seriously tho, short of swapping the whole cat-back to an aftermarket system, you could pull the mufflers, cut the baffling out, then reinstall them.
also you would have to check with GM about removing the AFM from the car, tho if you are swapping the lifters and cam anyway, then you wont need to worry too much about your warranty.... unless you pay someone to do it.


I honestly feel that a lot of people will enjoy the sound of the 4cyl mode when cruising. then there will be some that would rather have the constant drone at highway speeds.
Maybe you could just disable it through the PCM. Leave all the hard parts alone and do it electronically, unless you're throwing a cam in there. I wonder if a dealer would do that for you...

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I like 'Spike23's idea though. It looks like the pipes from the cats' to the mufflers are close to mandrel-bent, so I bet it wouldn't be hard to just lop the OEM mufflers off and maybe weld some extension pipes (if necessary) and then the mufflers. I'm considering going that way depending on the prices of the CBs that are on the market at the time. I might get rid of any resonators if they happen to show up too and weld in some straight pipes.

'Energyforlife - IMVHO, your ideas on CBs are great. Congrats' on your order but also keep your eyes open on GMPP CBs. If I remember correctly, there will be two, a standard street-legal and off-road-only CB. I'm sure the prices will be similar to what is going to be out there in the aftermarket but you should be able to roll the cost into financing the car and have GMPP's warranty
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