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Old 08-02-2008, 01:15 AM   #1
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Question What is the difference between a Sports car and a Muscle car (whats your opinion)

what is the difference between a Sports car and a Muscle car?
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:23 AM   #2
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I know most seem to feel that a Sports Car is only a two-seater.

My opinion is that a Muscle Car is still a sports car though.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:23 AM   #3
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Muscle cars are cars with big power and originated in America.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:30 AM   #4
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RAW V8 POWER!!!!!!!!, think I cleared that up
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:47 AM   #5
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I know most seem to feel that a Sports Car is only a two-seater.
if you feel that way then let me throw this out there do classify this as a '80 sportscar? (both same car just different colors once mine's painted i'll use it for examples)

because it's kinda got back seats
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:48 AM   #6
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what is the difference between a Sports car and a Muscle car?

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A sports car is a term used to describe a class of automobile. The exact definition varies, [1] but generally it is used to refer to a low to ground, light weight vehicle with a powerful engine. Most vehicles referred to as sports cars are rear-wheel drive, have two seats, two doors, and are designed for more precise handling, acceleration, and aesthetics. A sports car's dominant considerations can be superior road handling, braking, maneuverability, low weight, and high power, rather than passenger space, comfort, and fuel economy.

Sports cars can be either luxurious[2] or spartan, but driving mechanical performance is the key attraction. Many drivers regard brand name and the subsequent racing reputation and history as important indications of sporting quality (for example, Ferrari, Porsche, Lotus), but some brands, such as Lamborghini, which do not race or build racing cars, are also highly regarded.

A car may be a sporting automobile without being a sports car. Performance modifications of regular, production cars, such as sport compacts, sports sedans, muscle cars, hot hatches and the like, generally are not considered sports cars, yet share traits common to sports cars. They are sometimes called "sports cars" for marketing purposes for increased advertising and promotional purposes.[3] Performance cars of all configurations are grouped as Sports and Grand tourer cars, or, occasionally, as performance cars.

A sports car does not require a large, powerful engine, though many do have them. Many classic British sports cars lacked powerful engines, but were known for exceptional handling due to light weight, a well-engineered, balanced chassis, and modern suspension (for example, Lotus Seven, Austin 7 Speedy). On tight, twisting roads, such a sports car may perform more effectively than a heavier, more powerful car.

Due to North American safety regulations, many sports cars are unavailable for sale or use in the United States and Canada. In the United Kingdom, Europe, and the Middle Eastern market (e.g. UAE), a flexible attitude towards small-volume specialist manufacturers has allowed companies such as TVR, Noble, and Pagani to succeed


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Muscle car is a term used to refer to a variety of high performance automobiles.[1][2] The term principally refers to American, Australian and to a lesser extent South African models. It generally describes a 2-door rear wheel drive mid-size car with a large, powerful V8 engine, and at an affordable price. Although opinions vary, it is generally accepted that classic muscle cars were produced in the late 1960s and early 1970s.[3][4][5][6] Muscle cars were built for street use and in some cases racing. They are distinct from sports cars and also from GTs, which are two-seat or 2+2 cars intended for high-speed touring/road racing. These are not generally considered muscle cars owing to their small size, relatively high cost and specialty nature. (The two-seater AMC AMX may or may not be an exception: one source queries whether it qualifies as a true muscle car or pony car,[7] but also lists it among vehicles that fit the general interpretation of both categories.[8] AMC was "never shy" about describing the car as "a genuine sports car"[9] as it was relatively inexpensive).[3]

For a definition from the muscle car era, a 2004 book refers the reader to an extract from Road Test magazine’s June 1967 issue: "Just what is a Muscle Car? Exactly what the name implies. It is a product of the American car industry adhering to the hot rodder's philosophy of taking a small car and putting a BIG engine in it [...] The Muscle Car is Charles Atlas kicking sand in the face of the 98 hp (73 kW) weakling." The book’s author adds that the muscle car was designed for straight-line speed, and did not have the "sophisticated chassis", "engineering integrity" or "lithe appearance" of European high-performance cars[10]

Opinions vary as to whether high-performance full-size cars, compacts, and pony cars qualify as muscle cars.[11]

Classic muscle cars are also defined by age and country of origin. The term "muscle car" did not enter common usage until after production of the vehicles had essentially ended,[3] and American print media of the era commonly referred to them as "supercars".[12][13]

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Old 08-02-2008, 04:29 AM   #7
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During the 80s and 90s the Camaro evolved more into a sports car while the Mustang remained more of a muscle car. As the demand for sports cars declined the Camaro died (till now).
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Old 08-02-2008, 06:22 AM   #8
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There's muscle and then there's American Muscle.. Mustangs, Camaro's and Challengers all fall into the muscle car category. There were times in their histories where the Mustang fell out of that category with the small boxy escort lookalike series. However that all changed with a reboot back in 1994. Since then the Mustang has been all American Muscle and now that the Camaro and Challenger are back, you got even more classic American Muscle on the streets again. The Corvette, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, Audi, and BMW all are great sports cars, refined, fast, and not the best suited for daily driving or long road trips compared to a Lincoln or Mercury in comfort but are great on a track and more exciting to drive. Yes there are exceptions to that rule as the M3 and Porsche are very comfortable and fast, however you get my point. The term sports car can mean a whole lot more while muscle car is reserved for a class of a few..
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Old 08-02-2008, 06:38 AM   #9
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The Corvette, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, Audi, and BMW all are great sports cars, refined, fast, and not the best suited for daily driving or long road trips compared to a Lincoln or Mercury in comfort but are great on a track and more exciting to drive.
I dunno, the audi's & bmw's drive better down the road than any lincoln or mercury I've driven
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Old 08-02-2008, 06:47 AM   #10
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I dunno, the audi's & bmw's drive better down the road than any lincoln or mercury I've driven
Actually they are bumpier on the road, because they are sports car oriented with stiffer suspensions. I am talking about the sprts car segment and not the high end luxury segment..
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Old 08-02-2008, 07:14 AM   #11
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Actually they are bumpier on the road, because they are sports car oriented with stiffer suspensions. I am talking about the sprts car segment and not the high end luxury segment..
maybe when modified, but all my bmw's have been better on the road than any ford or gm old person car that I've rode in
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:50 AM   #12
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When I think of sports cars I think of:
Nissan 350Z
BMW 335i/M3
Porsche Boxter/Cayman
Audi A5/S5 (TT's usually FWD)
Mazda RX8

When I think of muscle cars I think of:
Mustang GT/GT500
Challenger RT/SRT8
Charger RT/SRT8
Camaro SS (can be either according to GM, but since its American, its a muscle car )
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Old 08-02-2008, 09:01 AM   #13
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RAW V8 POWER!!!!!!!!, think I cleared that up
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Old 08-02-2008, 09:03 AM   #14
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My thought... Muscle car is tire smoking, straightline action. Sports car, power but with the ability to handle the curves.
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Old 08-02-2008, 09:12 AM   #15
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Sports Car= Smaller 2 seater, engine size does not matter. Very broad segment. From roadsters to Lambo.
Muscle Car =2+2 American V8. Sorry but the V6 doesn't count in my book. Niche market.
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Old 08-02-2008, 09:16 AM   #16
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The Camaro SS will undoubtedly be named a muscle car, but the camaro classifies as both a muscle car and sports car...I think we are going to have to create a new class for the Camaro...
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Old 08-02-2008, 09:41 AM   #17
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Muscle cars = Chevy

Sports cars = Everthing else
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Old 08-02-2008, 09:51 AM   #18
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My thought... Muscle car is tire smoking, straightline action. Sports car, power but with the ability to handle the curves.
thats how i see it, sports car is great iin all categories, whereas muscle great in straight line, tire burning category, not so much handling and comfort.
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:38 AM   #19
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Sports car = 4thgens and new Camaro
Muscle car = Older Camaros

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ALL = Sports car
Some = called Muscle cars out of affection.
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:45 AM   #20
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Sports car = 4thgens and new Camaro
Muscle car = Older Camaros

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ALL = Sports car
Some = called Muscle cars out of affection.
LoL isnt GM callling the Camaro a "Sports Coupe"
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Old 08-02-2008, 11:01 AM   #21
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A sports car can avoid a brick wall with it's nimble handling, a muscle car uses it's power to drive thru the wall.
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Old 08-02-2008, 11:18 AM   #22
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I've always seen a sports car as having only two seats.
A muscle car was one of the larger cars from the 60s/early 70s era with a large displacement engine. (Chevelle, GTO, Cutlass, GS, GSX)

Today, since all of those larger cars are gone, the Camaro can easily be called a muscle car, a sports coupe, whatever.
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Old 08-02-2008, 11:22 AM   #23
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My opioion is this:
1- A sports car is a car that does many things well. Handling, Straight line exeleration and braking. It can use many different engines as handling and overall performance are the main objective. Can be a coupe or sedan (hence my CTS-V). It also uses many different lay outs (FWD,RWD,AWD) And usualy has the engine in front. Can be used on moderate to long trips. I have driven my Cadillac to Las Vegas from Cleveland and was not uncomfortable at all.
2- A muscle car is a car that is not as forgiving and usualy does Strainght line exeleration and possibly braking very well. These typically have V8 engines although some V6 an V10 can qualify. My Viper is a V10.It is usualy found as a coupe with a FE/RWD config. And not ideal for long trips but short to moderate "fun" trips. But remember the Z/28 was a handling option. Muscle cars are typicaly North American cars. We did create them! Thank you Johnny D!
3- An exotic is a combination of both. Ferrari, Lotus and Lamborghini and Aston Martin have all proven that you can have it all, if you write a big enough check, except a back seat. These are typicaly found as a ME/RWD or AWD config. These can be used for longer trips, I have driven my F430 to Canada 3 times in the past 2 years. These cars run any engine size they choose V6-V12, The NSX uses a V6 while some for the Ferrari's and Lambos use V12's. These cars also use exotic materials and have a much higher standard than mass produced vehicles.
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Old 08-02-2008, 03:38 PM   #24
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a muscle car is all about power. a sports car is small, great handling. now older purists will say a sports car has to be a convertible. that's the way it was in the real old days.
i really loved how the 3rd and 4th gen's stepped up the looks into the sports car category. in some ways the 2nd gen did too. we know the 1970 1/2 was inspired by a Ferrari. i love the looks of the new car, but it does basically go back to "musclecar".
these days everything handles fairly well, compared to the huge cars of the 60's
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