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Camaro0911 · 08-02-2008, 06:55 PM

If the Camaro SS will only get 420 hp will you tune the engine?
If you are thinking about it, Hennessey performance engineering will do it for you. Anything from 500hp.

*radz28* · 08-02-2008, 07:05 PM

Absolutely. While that's a good amount of power, I need more. Hopefully, if a supercharged version doesn't make it, GM will offer a TVS1900 or 2300 through GMPP that I can bolt onto the car.

Chocolate Apocalypse · 08-02-2008, 07:05 PM

Screw Hennessey, if you have that much money to burn I say go Lingenfelter, that way you will actually get what you pay for. And considering what the LS3 puts down with just a cam swap there is no need to take it them for just 500hp.

*Moose* · 08-02-2008, 07:08 PM

If 420HP isn't enough for me, the first place I'll contact would be Tom Henry.

nUcLeArEnVoY · 08-02-2008, 07:10 PM

420 is plenty for me, although I'd love to put a cam in it for the loping sound... I just can't risk voiding the warranty, so it's a no-can-doer.

MerlinZero · 08-02-2008, 07:42 PM

I'm with Chocolate, If when I receive mine and 420 just isn't what I'm needing.... I'm taking a trip to Lingenfelter performance.

they'll have a twin turbo version i'm pretty sure.... I'd love to see what kind of body kit they'll come out with for it.

NOODLESgoneWILD · 08-02-2008, 07:46 PM

Cam is nice, but you'll enjoy (1) new gear ratios (4.10's) (2) Long tube headers + exhaust all the way back...

They say the gear change feels like an 60 - 80 HP improvment, then the headers and exhaust gives you the actual HP's and the rumbling V8 sound we all want...most don't do more than this. This can be done for less than 5g's and it feels and sounds like a beast!

This is what all the Vette guys do to there LS3...they say its the best bang for your buck.

topgun1 · 08-02-2008, 09:25 PM

well, 422 is not bad, but i'm not about to spend 5-10 grand on a supercharger, headers and full exhaust system. I'll stick to some simpler bolt ons and computer changes--a custom tune, reprogram computer, a K&N CAI and a cat-back exhaust which may give me all together a modest 50 hp.

stovt001 · 08-02-2008, 09:28 PM

Even with the obscene weight, 422 should be more than enough. Besides, with the CARB police out looking for any excuse to steal your money, I figure its more worthwhile to go for suspension, braking, and most importantly weight reduction mods.

*Mindz* · 08-02-2008, 09:33 PM

I'll at least tune the engine, but I don't know if I'll do that and upgrade cam, exhaust, etc. until after warranty though.

CamaroScotty · 08-02-2008, 09:33 PM

I have talked to Lingenfelter....They can't wait to get their hands on the car!

Shadowsong · 08-02-2008, 09:35 PM

I'll pass on Hennessey as well. I have heard TERRIBLE things about them, and I've read even worse forum posts from John Hennessey himself. The man, if he can even be called that, will NOT have my business, that's for sure.

Camaro0911 · 08-02-2008, 09:42 PM

what did you hear about john hennessey?

joes3rdcamaro82/91/2010 · 08-02-2008, 09:50 PM

LPE performance is the only way I will go. STS sounds good, but a supercharger just says "blow me"!

Shadowsong · 08-02-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Camaro0911

what did you hear about john hennessey?

That he had people's cars sitting in his shop for months AFTER the promised delivery date. He has parted out customer's cars for cash to work on other cars. He let one of his mechanics take a customer's vette for a spin and his mechanic crashed the vette and totally killed the entire front end, (there was a post about that on the vette forums, with pictures and everything.) He has called customers demanding more money than the initial price. I'm sure there's more, its been a few months since I read all of this.

Edit: Not to mention I've read several forum posts from him on a..I think it might have been a dodge forum... anyway, he was totally unprofessional, he was verbally attacking several of the forum members and using so much profanity that the forum mods had to remove his supplier status and ban him from the boards.

*CamaroSpike23* · 08-02-2008, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro0911

what did you hear about john hennessey?

same things about saleen. overpriced products for underpowered results

Camaro0911 · 08-02-2008, 09:55 PM

well engine wise he does a damn good job at it I took my Ford GT to him so he could tune it for a 750hp and that is exactly what I got.

69copo · 08-02-2008, 10:25 PM

I have already decided that 422hp is not enough for me. I've talked with Ligenfelter, Hennessey and Mallet and they are all very excited about this car. IMHO though Ligenfelter is to expensive, Hennessey is a.... well you know. My brother had a Hennessey Viper 850. After about 4k miles it blew a connecting rod and Hennessey told him it was his fault. WTF? Burnt bridge there buddy...no more money for you D**K! Mallet is right down the road from me and I can visit her anytime I want. He does turbo and supercharging so you can pick your posion. If I want more power that's where I'm going.

stovt001 · 08-02-2008, 10:32 PM

I wonder if Banks Engineering will have anything. They're right down the road from me and I've met Gale Banks.

*TAG UR IT* · 08-03-2008, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moose

If 420HP isn't enough for me, the first place I'll contact would be Tom Henry.

Would you mention my name too, please?

str8himalaya · 08-03-2008, 01:18 AM

420 HP not enough?! I might put a CAI and a catback with a tune on it, and thats it. How is 420 not enough horsepower? I feel extremely out of place, i thought getting around 300 HP in my GTP was great, i hear a number over 400 and i want to buy the car today. lol. I guess if i were taking it to the track a lot, i might put some more money in it, but this is my everyday car, and i want it to last as long as possible. Only car i have been in with more than 400 HP was my dads '69 z28, and that almost scared me. It also started my love for camaros. If i have anymore than 475, i will be in way too much trouble with the police

Nexus6 · 08-03-2008, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by str8himalaya

420 HP not enough?! I might put a CAI and a catback with a tune on it, and thats it. How is 420 not enough horsepower? I feel extremely out of place, i thought getting around 300 HP in my GTP was great, i hear a number over 400 and i want to buy the car today. lol. I guess if i were taking it to the track a lot, i might put some more money in it, but this is my everyday car, and i want it to last as long as possible. Only car i have been in with more than 400 HP was my dads '69 z28, and that almost scared me. It also started my love for camaros. If i have anymore than 475, i will be in way too much trouble with the police

im with you man . i dont think i would need much more HP than that.and the highways out here in Dallas suck balls.theyre all torn up and crappy.the grooves in the road wanna drag you into the wall if you have fat tires on anything.

*TAG UR IT* · 08-03-2008, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by str8himalaya

420 HP not enough?! I might put a CAI and a catback with a tune on it, and thats it. How is 420 not enough horsepower? I feel extremely out of place, i thought getting around 300 HP in my GTP was great, i hear a number over 400 and i want to buy the car today. lol. I guess if i were taking it to the track a lot, i might put some more money in it, but this is my everyday car, and i want it to last as long as possible. Only car i have been in with more than 400 HP was my dads '69 z28, and that almost scared me. It also started my love for camaros. If i have anymore than 475, i will be in way too much trouble with the police

4th Gen w/ 335hp at 3,500lbs.

5th Gen w/ 420hp at 3,900lbs.

See where I'm getting at? Sure, my 4th Gen is fast. And, when I heard the 5th Gen was getting nearly 90hp more over my current SS, I nearly flipped! Then, I found out that it also gained weight....LIKE 400LBS! So, ask youself again if 420 is enough......

I like the get up and go in my 4th Gen. I want get up and go in the 5th Gen....but with even more umph.

So yeah....420 COULD possibly not be enough.

*The_Blur* · 08-03-2008, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

4th Gen w/ 335hp at 3,500lbs.

5th Gen w/ 420hp at 3,900lbs.

See where I'm getting at? Sure, my 4th Gen is fast. And, when I heard the 5th Gen was getting nearly 90hp more over my current SS, I nearly flipped! Then, I found out that it also gained weight....LIKE 400LBS! So, ask youself again if 420 is enough......

I like the get up and go in my 4th Gen. I want get up and go in the 5th Gen....but with even more umph.

So yeah....420 COULD possibly not be enough.

I wish I had a current Camaro for comparison. A V6 will be a massive boost for me, but I've fallen in love with this car and want a V8 to keep in my garage for years to come as a classic. I'm not worried about the horsepower improvement over my current car, but I am worried about the feel of the weight. The V8 will have a superior suspension to compensate. I know that the V6 has a great suspension, as well, but it doesn't weigh that much less. I'm really hoping that V6 buyers don't feel the weight so there isn't any disappointment with the feel of the car.

ULTIMATEORANGESS · 08-03-2008, 08:27 AM

i'll start with a catback, CAI and tune and go from there. these cars are meant to be modified. you can bet GMPP will have a ton of parts for 5th gens.

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08-02-2008, 06:55 PM	#1
Camaro0911 Drives: 2002 Chevy Impala Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Loganville Posts: 44	If Only 420 Hp? If the Camaro SS will only get 420 hp will you tune the engine? If you are thinking about it, Hennessey performance engineering will do it for you. Anything from 500hp.

08-02-2008, 07:05 PM	#2
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crapramento, Crapifornia Posts: 12,949 View My Garage	Absolutely. While that's a good amount of power, I need more. Hopefully, if a supercharged version doesn't make it, GM will offer a TVS1900 or 2300 through GMPP that I can bolt onto the car. __________________ "...What IS true: We anticipated that this would happen - we are never finished - and yes, Ford DOES deserve to win now and then. To think that GM can come out with a car to make ford throw in the towel is simply foolhardy..." - fbodfather

08-02-2008, 07:05 PM	#3
Chocolate Apocalypse Full Fledged Member Drives: '00-Z28 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 278 View My Garage	Screw Hennessey, if you have that much money to burn I say go Lingenfelter, that way you will actually get what you pay for. And considering what the LS3 puts down with just a cam swap there is no need to take it them for just 500hp. __________________ '98 Dodge Avenger - Beater '72 Cutlass - Toy '00 Z28 - REDRUM - 12.312@111.62 DA:2500' blowing through TC, new TC installed, 11s here I come

08-02-2008, 07:10 PM	#5
nUcLeArEnVoY Oldbie that nobody knows Drives: Black 2011 Camaro 1SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Homestead, FL Posts: 2,868 View My Garage	420 is plenty for me, although I'd love to put a cam in it for the loping sound... I just can't risk voiding the warranty, so it's a no-can-doer. __________________ MY CAMARO

08-02-2008, 07:08 PM	#4
Moose Moderator Drives: '99 Camaro SS #1392 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Newtown, Pa. Posts: 4,016	If 420HP isn't enough for me, the first place I'll contact would be Tom Henry.

08-02-2008, 07:42 PM	#6
MerlinZero Big Orange Drives: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 1,170 View My Garage	I'm with Chocolate, If when I receive mine and 420 just isn't what I'm needing.... I'm taking a trip to Lingenfelter performance. they'll have a twin turbo version i'm pretty sure.... I'd love to see what kind of body kit they'll come out with for it.

08-02-2008, 07:46 PM	#7
NOODLESgoneWILD IS IT 2009 YET??? Drives: '05 Z51 Black Vette & '06 H2 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mill Creek, Washington Posts: 409	Cam is nice, but you'll enjoy (1) new gear ratios (4.10's) (2) Long tube headers + exhaust all the way back... They say the gear change feels like an 60 - 80 HP improvment, then the headers and exhaust gives you the actual HP's and the rumbling V8 sound we all want...most don't do more than this. This can be done for less than 5g's and it feels and sounds like a beast! This is what all the Vette guys do to there LS3...they say its the best bang for your buck. __________________ *Don't love me just for my FBod*

08-02-2008, 09:25 PM	#8
topgun1 Drives: 10 SIM 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 1,944 View My Garage	well, 422 is not bad, but i'm not about to spend 5-10 grand on a supercharger, headers and full exhaust system. I'll stick to some simpler bolt ons and computer changes--a custom tune, reprogram computer, a K&N CAI and a cat-back exhaust which may give me all together a modest 50 hp. __________________ 5th Gen Camaros of the Carolinas SIM, 2SS/RS LS3 5/7/11 453.9 RWHP 427.5 RWTQ VMS Stage 2.5 Comp Cams kit, Cold Air Inductions intake, ADM race scoop, DT 1 3/4" headers, Solo cats, 3" Magnaflow catback, Pypes cutouts, HP tune, H&R SuperSport springs, Eibach sways/spacers, TexasSpeed UD pulley, LSR tensioner pulley, Barton shifter, skip shift eliminator, powder-coated calipers, R1 concept rotors, StopTech pads, Granatelli wires, Lloyds mats, tint, AAC afterburner taillamps, AAC scanner/sidemarkers, SRP pedals, custom engine cover, black bowties, Ridergraphix hood spears....

08-02-2008, 09:28 PM	#9
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,817	Even with the obscene weight, 422 should be more than enough. Besides, with the CARB police out looking for any excuse to steal your money, I figure its more worthwhile to go for suspension, braking, and most importantly weight reduction mods. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

08-02-2008, 09:33 PM	#10
Mindz E.B.A.H. Drives: you wild... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the happy padded room wearing a jacket that makes me hug myself... Posts: 16,499	I'll at least tune the engine, but I don't know if I'll do that and upgrade cam, exhaust, etc. until after warranty though. __________________ "J, you're my favorite Pokemod" ~Revo1

08-02-2008, 09:33 PM	#11
CamaroScotty Account Suspended Drives: Your new SLP Camaro! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cedarburg, WI Posts: 6,806	I have talked to Lingenfelter....They can't wait to get their hands on the car!

08-02-2008, 09:35 PM	#12
Shadowsong Drives: 2005 Mustang Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Conroe, Texas Posts: 644	I'll pass on Hennessey as well. I have heard TERRIBLE things about them, and I've read even worse forum posts from John Hennessey himself. The man, if he can even be called that, will NOT have my business, that's for sure.

08-02-2008, 09:42 PM	#13
Camaro0911 Drives: 2002 Chevy Impala Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Loganville Posts: 44	what did you hear about john hennessey?

08-02-2008, 09:50 PM	#14
joes3rdcamaro82/91/2010 Z28 Hold Out! Drives: 2000 Monte Carlo SS Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wichita, Ks. Posts: 354	LPE performance is the only way I will go. STS sounds good, but a supercharger just says "blow me"!

08-02-2008, 09:55 PM	#17
Camaro0911 Drives: 2002 Chevy Impala Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Loganville Posts: 44	well engine wise he does a damn good job at it I took my Ford GT to him so he could tune it for a 750hp and that is exactly what I got.

08-02-2008, 10:25 PM	#18
69copo Sorry officer Drives: CTS/V 2SS/RS Collector Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cleveland OH Posts: 115 View My Garage	I have already decided that 422hp is not enough for me. I've talked with Ligenfelter, Hennessey and Mallet and they are all very excited about this car. IMHO though Ligenfelter is to expensive, Hennessey is a.... well you know. My brother had a Hennessey Viper 850. After about 4k miles it blew a connecting rod and Hennessey told him it was his fault. WTF? Burnt bridge there buddy...no more money for you D**K! Mallet is right down the road from me and I can visit her anytime I want. He does turbo and supercharging so you can pick your posion. If I want more power that's where I'm going. __________________ Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.

08-02-2008, 10:32 PM	#19
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,817	I wonder if Banks Engineering will have anything. They're right down the road from me and I've met Gale Banks. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

08-03-2008, 01:18 AM	#21
str8himalaya Glad to be here... Drives: 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Join Date: May 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 117	420 HP not enough?! I might put a CAI and a catback with a tune on it, and thats it. How is 420 not enough horsepower? I feel extremely out of place, i thought getting around 300 HP in my GTP was great, i hear a number over 400 and i want to buy the car today. lol. I guess if i were taking it to the track a lot, i might put some more money in it, but this is my everyday car, and i want it to last as long as possible. Only car i have been in with more than 400 HP was my dads '69 z28, and that almost scared me. It also started my love for camaros. If i have anymore than 475, i will be in way too much trouble with the police __________________ Buddy (that owns a mustang GT) to a tech at auto club: I am getting killed by camaros at the strip...what do i have to do to beat one? Tech back to my buddy: Buy a camaro... Buddy: Turns around and walks away with head down... Gotta love GM!

08-03-2008, 08:27 AM	#25
ULTIMATEORANGESS Drives: 1999 Hugger SS 2005 QS GTO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: new jersey Posts: 43	i'll start with a catback, CAI and tune and go from there. these cars are meant to be modified. you can bet GMPP will have a ton of parts for 5th gens.

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