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Old 11-30-2009, 03:49 PM   #2751
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Sounds like my kind of job! haha I have actually worked in a few shops at dealerships so I know what you mean. Except if I had drank I would have been fired lol.
LOl Im at home drinking! My phone is forwarded and Im on appointment only. My next job is a 1969 Chevelle showcar nextweek for a $1500 showcar wetsanding. Other than that Imma hang here and act like a dingledouche lol.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:51 PM   #2752
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You guys are missing the point on the track pack thing- At the end of the day the SS STILL won the races against the Track Pack GT. The writers may have editorialized about feel, etc. of the Mustang, but there is no way to gloss over the win in any kind of race- road or drag. It's like Al Gore still crying on TV that he won the popular vote 6 years ago. He still lost. So who cares if the Mustang had a track pack?

Now you can argue about 2011, but 2011s aren't here yet so I'll care when they are. Then if the Camaro gets waxed I'll whine here until Chevy kicks it up a notch.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:53 PM   #2753
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My 2004 STi was at 400 Crank HP and weighed half of a cast Iron 170hp V6. So unless you are literlly putting horses under the hood HP does not truly have and effect on weight. Id like to see the weight of a 305tpi vs the LS3, the LS3 has 200hp more and I bet it weighs in atleast 100 lbs less.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:53 PM   #2754
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You guys are missing the point on the track pack thing- At the end of the day the SS STILL won the races against the Track Pack GT. The writers may have editorialized about feel, etc. of the Mustang, but there is no way to gloss over the win in any kind of race- road or drag. It's like Al Gore still crying on TV that he won the popular vote 6 years ago. He still lost. So who cares if the Mustang had a track pack?

Now you can argue about 2011, but 2011s aren't here yet so I'll care when they are. Then if the Camaro gets waxed I'll whine here until Chevy kicks it up a notch.
Yeah I believe we all know it won against a track pack equipped GT regardless, but it still wasn't really a level playing field. Notice I said "individual" handling tests. Just because you can pull good skipad numbers doesn't mean you can bring all the factors together to pull out a win in a road course match-up.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:55 PM   #2755
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Bring on the rivalry. I guess the Challenger can play too lol.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:56 PM   #2756
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hmmmmm if i was to buy the v6 the first thing i would do is replace those mufflers,

im doing that when i get a 2lt camaro (mrt exhaust )
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ok any bets on how many more new mustang threads I am going to have to merge today? I am already up to 4....lmao
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:57 PM   #2758
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I believe it was Ninjak that said SVT would offer it and that would make sense, because who else inside Ford would offer such a package?
Well the V6 will be called "The performance" package. I have no ideal what the GT will have...it may still be called the "Track Pack" The Gt500 will get a "SVT package."

Basically all of the parts are items from Ford Racing catalog. Its being put together in a neat little package and installed at factory. The fact that the V6 is getting this option is surprising, and means that ford is stepping up to having a v6 Performer as well as save some pennies for the owner.

the choice is now clearly up to the consumer, the same way GM did for the camaro.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:59 PM   #2759
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This is, of course, a good sign for everyone...including Chevy and Ford, really.

GM will win eventually, of course, but the competition will be fun while it lasts.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:07 PM   #2760
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Yes it is somewhat of an advantage. However, again, the IRS is standard on the Camaros and no special performance package was needed to add it. That just boils down to Ford staying with an older technology instead of offering the newer one.
OK but the camaro has track tuned IRS as stated many times and it was tuned in nurburgring, so how is an IRS advancement tuned at nurburgring complaining about a few springs and sway bars on a solid axle and calling it unfair? get my point?
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:19 PM   #2761
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Ford = Win. they know when there loseing to one up the competition. a mustang with simular hp/tw ratings as the v6 maro, but lighter = the faster v6. now how will that v6 stang stack up against the Genesis coupe with track pack?
i wonder if ford will ever give the SHO motor to the stang, and upp the boost a wee bit?? 400+hp TT DI v6 in a light weight track packed stang, sounds like a plan to me.
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performance is one thing, it's also gotta have the looks...
Maybe....but there were a lot of folks that bought the 2004-2006 GTO's and it sure wasn't because of the looks.


For the record, I was one of those people.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:24 PM   #2763
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GM will win eventually, of course, but the competition will be fun while it lasts.
Don't be so sure of that. GM already killed off the Camaro once.
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This is, of course, a good sign for everyone...including Chevy and Ford, really.
True. And add Dodge in there too. Competition always benefits the consumer.
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All of the stang guys in one thread..wow..lol
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All of the stang guys in one thread..wow..lol
You're the one who merged us all into this thread, remember?

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Old 11-30-2009, 04:34 PM   #2767
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It's a wonderful thing...now we dont have to have you guys all over this forum in other places causing a ruckus...lol
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:35 PM   #2768
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Hey I was'nt in here until you said that.
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Old 11-30-2009, 05:04 PM   #2769
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Of course if I was going to buy a 2010 GT I would get the track pack, but since I can buy it that makes it fair? I would assume thinking like an enthusiast would be better in comparing two car's performance than an average consumer. What I'm mostly trying to say is, if the V6 Mustang can have a performance package that borrows parts from the GT and GT500, wouldn't it be fair for the V6 Camaro to borrow parts in a performance package from a SS and Z/28?
Yes. Absolutely. But its not available. Sooooooooo....... thats that.



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Impressive but for crying out loud change that brutal rear end the new mustang already. That thing is fugly

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Wow Bold Moves indeed. Unless the GT ends up being one hell of a car I'll still go Camaro though... Looks alone help the Camaro's cause. One thing is for sure...this is a good thing for both brands. The Muscle Car wars are heating up!
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I think ford did a good thing changing the front end (looks more agressive) but I dont care for the puckered looking rear end lol. Kinda looks like its straining.
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Old 11-30-2009, 06:09 PM   #2773
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No different than any other light hearted jab anyone else says on here. It really shouldn't be that big of a deal. Maybe if it was a first post but I think it's quite obvious I am not a troll. I don't bash the Camaro on here but I have said it is not my choice.
Um..where did I say it was a big deal? I didn't even call you a troll, unlike others have. I said it *makes you look like one.*

I just have to wonder why you would frequent a forum for a car that *isn't your choice.* I don't like strawberry ice cream, so I don't go to forums dedicated to it.

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If you are on a camaro forum whining anytime anyone says something that is not drastically in favor of the camaro, you look like a cry baby fan boy.
I know you're sticking up for your Stangbro, but again: where did I whine, and where did I say you had to say anything drastically in favor of the Camaro? You'll see me comment negatively on the car's visibility in a recent thread, even.

Oh, and the very last thing I am (or would look like ) is a fanBOY.
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Just a thought........ Why don't you thing the 2011 Camaro hasn't came out yet?
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Just a thought........ Why don't you thing the 2011 Camaro hasn't came out yet?
I would love to think it would be to fire back at ford but sadly I doubt that is the case. They are not saying anything about the 2011 model so people will buy now vs hold out for the one right around the corner in a sense.

I hate to say this since the only ford I have ever owned was a mustang and the darn thing through a rod after 3 days of ownership (lemons happen). However, GM would have to dratically cut down the weight of the camaro in order to compete. And that is not going to happen. Would make no sense cost wise for them.

Now would they offer additional power plant options??? More than likely. just my thoughts though and they are worthless. lol
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