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Old 05-11-2009, 06:53 PM   #351
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Just because the blower is capable does NOT mean the engine will hold up. The two are not mutually exclusive. The engine would have to be built (and have the supporting mods) to reach those upper power levels.
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Old 05-11-2009, 07:15 PM   #352
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Yeah, I think most comparisons are supposed to be stock for stock.

Definitely a nice aftermarket for Mustang's though and I'll be damned if I'm not thinking about one.
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Old 05-11-2009, 07:22 PM   #353
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Just because the blower is capable does NOT mean the engine will hold up. The two are not mutually exclusive. The engine would have to be built (and have the supporting mods) to reach those upper power levels.
What are you talking about.... the GT engine can hold up to 1000 HP with no engine reinforcements whatsoever. all you do is slap a supercharger on at 40 pounds of boost.......
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Old 05-11-2009, 07:23 PM   #354
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What are you talking about.... the GT engine can hold up to 1000 HP with no engine reinforcements whatsoever. all you do is slap a supercharger on at 40 pounds of boost.......
yea for about a minute and a half lol
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Old 05-11-2009, 07:27 PM   #355
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Performance? Okay 400lbs+ in weight without the spare tire my mustang has is unneeded. Also, it has 96 more hp but still has a 4.8 0-60 speed and mine is 4.9. Now add some roush to this and what do you get?
Sorry Vizon, but I have got too set the record stright. 1st the Mustang with a track pack IS NOT 400lbs lighter than a Camaro SS.
Camaro SS 3860lbs - Mustang 3572lb = 288lbs

Also it takes more than hp to go fast like gearing. The mustang with track pack has 3.73 gears and 27" diameter tires compared to the camaro 3.45 gears and 28.6" tires (probaly a big reason the camaro is more fuel efficient)
2nd 0-60 is meaning less, 1/4 mile times and trap speeds are much better at testing acceleration. In those cases the mustang is left in the dust.

Mustang GT: 0-60 5.2 sec 1/4mile 13.7 102-103mph
with Track pack: 0-60 4.9 sec 1/4 13.5 104mph

Camaro SS: 0-60 4.7 1/4 13.0 @ 111mph
2011 Camaro SS with 3.73 gears: I am guessing 0-60 4.4 sec 1/4 12.7-12.8 @ 114mph maybe

Edit: does your mustang have the track pack, if not then I your car will not duplicate those number, espescially in handleing.
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0-60 in 4.4? Are you kidding me?
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With a 111 mph trap speed the camaro IS A high 12 sec. car, When they did their acceleration test, it was in freezing tempatures (34%) and could not get traction.
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Ah, how convenient. Make sense.
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Old 05-11-2009, 07:37 PM   #359
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0-60 in 4.4? Are you kidding me?
Actually one mag I think acheived 0-60 in 4.4 sec already, I can't remeber who But I will post the link later tonight (I am at work)
But in any case remeber 0-60 is vastly over rated, look at the camaro 1/4 mile time and Trap speeds!! as you keep going the gap keep widening. If I remeber correctly the mustang is redline limited to 151 mph, the camaro is electronicaly limited to 157 mph in only 4th gear!!!
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Ah, how convenient. Make sense.
LMAO!!!!! no not convienant, but didn't Ford say the same thing when the 540hp 2010 GT-500 was tested and went 12.9 in the 1/4 mile. BUT look at the trap speeds of 118mph.
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No point in arguing about what potential mods could do to the car. We're talking stock for stock and the Camaro wins in the performance aspect here. Not a big deal and nothing that can't be changed with mods, but stock for stock the Camaro wins.

I definitely think all three cars are awesome but I can't pretend that certain cars aren't outperforming others.
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Old 05-11-2009, 08:31 PM   #362
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yeah, comparing how fast a car CAN go with mods is one of the dumbest things. any car can be fast.
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You have to choose your poison. I would rather have a nicer interrior and better technology. I can always fix the power thing.
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Old 05-11-2009, 08:55 PM   #364
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You have to choose your poison. I would rather have a nicer interrior and better technology. I can always fix the power thing.
thats true, last time i checked i spend most of my time on the INSIDE of my car while i'm driving, should be comfty and good looking.
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thats true, last time i checked i spend most of my time on the INSIDE of my car while i'm driving, should be comfty and good looking.
Yep. My last mustang had the basic interior. Decided to get this one pretty much loaded.
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id be suprised if 0-60 were 4.4 stock for the camaro; with a CAI/tune that would make sense then
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You have to choose your poison. I would rather have a nicer interrior and better technology. I can always fix the power thing.
What do you mean by better technology? If you are talking about Ford's 4.6 mod motor then I would respectfully disagree with you. I as this question to many mustang loyalist and have yet to here and answer that actualy uses logic, are you ready??

Question: What is the point of techonlogy that offers 0 benefits in the real world?? Ford's 4.6 mod moters are a great example, lets compare mustang to the camaro.

Mustang GT fuel economy 15/23mpg
Camaro SS fuel economy 16/24

Mustang GT 315hp/320lb-tq
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The LS3 has more hp/tq and is even more fuel efficient in a heavier car. Also is is faaaaaaaar easier and cheaper to mod, a $600 cam will give the LS3 well over 500hp. for the 4.6 mod motor to even remotely touch 500hp you would need a $7000 BLOWER!!! So again what is the point of technology (4.6 SOHC V8) that offer 0 benefits I.E. less power, less torque, less fuel efficient and more expensive to modify if you are seeking big hp?
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haha, yeah, people hate it if you do, people hate it if you dont.
i happen to like how the camaro has a camaro interior.
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Welcome to the board Vizon.

BTW, I found a great video for you...Start watching at 2:16 and watch until 3:22. This guy has a huge blower on a Drag car...yet he'll never run it.

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What do you mean by better technology? If you are talking about Ford's 4.6 mod motor then I would respectfully disagree with you. I as this question to many mustang loyalist and have yet to here and answer that actualy uses logic, are you ready??

Question: What is the point of techonlogy that offers 0 benefits in the real world?? Ford's 4.6 mod moters are a great example, lets compare mustang to the camaro.

Mustang GT fuel economy 15/23mpg
Camaro SS fuel economy 16/24

Mustang GT 315hp/320lb-tq
Camaro SS 426/420lb-tq

The LS3 has more hp/tq and is even more fuel efficient in a heavier car. Also is is faaaaaaaar easier and cheaper to mod, a $600 cam will give the LS3 well over 500hp. for the 4.6 mod motor to even remotely touch 500hp you would need a $7000 BLOWER!!! So again what is the point of technology (4.6 SOHC V8) that offer 0 benefits I.E. less power, less torque, less fuel efficient and more expensive to modify if you are seeking big hp?
i get 27mpg on the highway all day in my mustang let's talk real world numbers because they are.. well... real..
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Yeah. I can achieve 23.5 mpg travelling a sustained 65-70 mph, and I have 4.10 gears and a few other non-gas friendly modifications in my Mustang, so I'm running more rpm on average than most other mustangs to boot.
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Actually one mag I think acheived 0-60 in 4.4 sec already, I can't remeber who But I will post the link later tonight (I am at work)
But in any case remeber 0-60 is vastly over rated, look at the camaro 1/4 mile time and Trap speeds!! as you keep going the gap keep widening. If I remeber correctly the mustang is redline limited to 151 mph, the camaro is electronicaly limited to 157 mph in only 4th gear!!!
+1 0-60 doesn't usually mean a lot, because those times can be heavily influenced by traction, gearing, etc....but by the end of a quarter you really get an idea of how powerful a car really is.

The Mustang is drag limited to about 150ish mph not redline limited. In theory if a mustang had the power, the redline and gearing would take a Mustang GT up to around 190ish mph with a 3.73 rear end.
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+1 0-60 doesn't usually mean a lot, because those times can be heavily influenced by traction, gearing, etc....but by the end of a quarter you really get an idea of how powerful a car really is.

The Mustang is drag limited to about 150ish mph not redline limited. In theory if a mustang had the power, the redline and gearing would take a Mustang GT up to around 190ish mph with a 3.73 rear end.
The mustang is drag limited to 150mph? i hope your not serious.
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What do you mean by better technology? If you are talking about Ford's 4.6 mod motor then I would respectfully disagree with you. I as this question to many mustang loyalist and have yet to here and answer that actualy uses logic, are you ready??

Question: What is the point of techonlogy that offers 0 benefits in the real world?? Ford's 4.6 mod moters are a great example, lets compare mustang to the camaro.

Mustang GT fuel economy 15/23mpg
Camaro SS fuel economy 16/24

Mustang GT 315hp/320lb-tq
Camaro SS 426/420lb-tq

The LS3 has more hp/tq and is even more fuel efficient in a heavier car. Also is is faaaaaaaar easier and cheaper to mod, a $600 cam will give the LS3 well over 500hp. for the 4.6 mod motor to even remotely touch 500hp you would need a $7000 BLOWER!!! So again what is the point of technology (4.6 SOHC V8) that offer 0 benefits I.E. less power, less torque, less fuel efficient and more expensive to modify if you are seeking big hp?
no, they were not referring to the 4.6 V8, and i have said this about 1000 times, but im sorry, the LS3 is not the best engine in the world. the LTT, is a much better engine in term of technology. Its one of the most advanced available. HOWEVER there were talking about technology that is found inside the car. so basically, sat nav and dual zone aircon, is what they chose over the power. and looks are subjective, so i wont throw those into the mix, i prefer the camaros looks, but they prefer the stang. and its all good.


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+1 0-60 doesn't usually mean a lot, because those times can be heavily influenced by traction, gearing, etc....but by the end of a quarter you really get an idea of how powerful a car really is.

The Mustang is drag limited to about 150ish mph not redline limited. In theory if a mustang had the power, the redline and gearing would take a Mustang GT up to around 190ish mph with a 3.73 rear end.
well, if drag resistance stay constant one you hit 70, my 95 camaro LT had a theoretical top speed of 170. but, its drag limited to about 125...drag is a huge thing, it can make or break a car, and i really doubt the camaro has much less drag
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The mustang is drag limited to 150mph? i hope your not serious.
Very much so....

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ang_gt_feature

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/re...umentid=987644

the first article says 147 mph drag limited
the last one says 151 mph drag limited

Coefficient of drag on our Mustangs is terrible to begin with why is this so surprising?
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