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Old 08-20-2008, 02:50 AM   #151
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that cover is so old... its crazy. and innacurate.
inaccurate yes probably it will not have a 6.2 L, but the body style will be very similar, just look at the spy shoots for the 2010 mustang.
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Old 08-20-2008, 03:12 AM   #152
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lol... Well its kinda sad in itself that you'd be happy beating a Stock Camaro with your Modded Mustang if that indeed is the case. Try thinking ahead of when Camaro's start getting modded then it'll be modded Camaro vs your Modded Mustang... which means........

End Game for your Mustang!!

Camaro for the win!!!

I like muscle cars and ricers as well as other type of cars/trucks.. Ricers can be nice too if done right, I don't like all ricers though. Some are just plain ugly as hell that you see driving around.
You obviously missed the whole point of what I was saying in this thread. You should go back to playing video games and leave the car talk to the big boys.
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Old 08-20-2008, 11:01 AM   #153
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You sound like one of those ignorant ricers that's always putting down the C6 Corvette's because they have a "stone age" leaf spring suspension and big inefficient V8's. In spite of some of it's "stone age" components I believe the Corvette to be one of the best handling and performing sports cars on the planet. You may consider the suspension on the Mustang primitive but the live rear axle is lighter and stronger than most IRS types and actually works quite fine on the road course and the dragstrip.
You should also be a bit more careful about throwing the "stone age" reference around. Last time I checked the LS3 (and LS7 in the Vette) were still using pushrods....talk about stone age. But yet they still make great reliable power and deliver decent gas mileage. State of the art, modern design does not always mean something is superior as there is often more than one way to obtain excellent performance results. And yes I'm quite confident that my Whipple supercharged Mustang GT with 443 rwhp-approx 505 hp at the crank (and a host of other goodies, including some upgrades to my "stone age" suspension) will easily beat a 600+ lbs heavier with less power SRT-8 Challenger (and 2010 Camaro when they finally hit the streets). Once guys start modding them with superchargers and nitrous it will probably be a different story. But we'll see. It's going to be fun finding out. Long live the new horsepower wars!!!
Don't forget rice is the true enemy. Not fellow muscle car owners.
I don't think you should be defending the Live axle in the mustang and yes its "stone age" tech when you drive on a tight corner and a bump comes in your way what happens? you know what happens instability thats what happens don't you loose security in the car? I think the biggest mistake ford did with mustang was not putting IRS in stangs. I don't care how much power a car has if its not stable its useless
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I don't think you should be defending the Live axle in the mustang and yes its "stone age" tech when you drive on a tight corner and a bump comes in your way what happens? you know what happens instability thats what happens don't you loose security in the car? I think the biggest mistake ford did with mustang was not putting IRS in stangs. I don't care how much power a car has if its not stable its useless
i know why you defend the Live Axel.


You own it.


if i owned a mustang, id probaly defend it too.


but you should admit what the Camaro has put together is years ahead of the Mustang.


And seriously, if you want to take about mine vs. yours, go start a 'modded car' thread.
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Are you people not paying attention ??? I posted a link above yes a NEW 5.0 motor will be in the NEW 2010 MUSTANG 400 hp 400 fpt. IRS is very likely due to the fact that the new platform in 05 was actually designed for it and Ford knows it has to compete or lose market share to the others, so it will be a close race vs the Maro and Chally the picture from CAR AND DRIVER is very close to the real deal Blue Oval sources say plus expect the car to come in with less FAT than the Maro or Chally. I do like the Camaro SS and Challenger SRT8 and Mustang GT all great cars all with a lot of history behind them ,and all a little different with there own style , it will be hard to decide what to buy next year that's for shure , the MUSCLE CAR RACE IS BACK YEAHHHH
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Are you people not paying attention ??? I posted a link above yes a NEW 5.0 motor will be in the NEW 2010 MUSTANG 400 hp 400 fpt. IRS is very likely due to the fact that the new platform in 05 was actually designed for it and Ford knows it has to compete or lose market share to the others, so it will be a close race vs the Maro and Chally the picture from CAR AND DRIVER is very close to the real deal Blue Oval sources say plus expect the car to come in with less FAT than the Maro or Chally. I do like the Camaro SS and Challenger SRT8 and Mustang GT all great cars all with a lot of history behind them ,and all a little different with there own style , it will be hard to decide what to buy next year that's for shure , the MUSCLE CAR RACE IS BACK YEAHHHH
That mag is photoshoped.

The article about 5.0 is from May. WAYYYY long time ago. might be accurate, more than likely not.

the Platform is unchanged. you dont just "get" an IRS platform, you spend lots and lots of money to research and build one.

Ford cant solve their issues just by giving the car a bigger engine. (which btw. Adds weight)
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Old 08-20-2008, 02:34 PM   #157
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That mag is photoshoped.

The article about 5.0 is from May. WAYYYY long time ago. might be accurate, more than likely not.

the Platform is unchanged. you dont just "get" an IRS platform, you spend lots and lots of money to research and build one.

Ford cant solve their issues just by giving the car a bigger engine. (which btw. Adds weight)
They fix their problem by circling them, and they have'nt fixed it for years....get it?
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They fix their problem by circling them, and they have'nt fixed it for years....get it?


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the 5.0 GT wouln't be getting 400hp, i'd say 350 at most.
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the 5.0 GT wouln't be getting 400hp, i'd say 350 at most.
well id say 370 at VERY MOST.

nothing to dangerous.

more likely 330-350
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You obviously missed the whole point of what I was saying in this thread. You should go back to playing video games and leave the car talk to the big boys.
Big Boys? and how old would you be then Mr. Big Boy? No I didn't miss the point.. you flat out said:

"But secondly I have to say some of you guys are in for a rude awakening if you think that you're going to hit the streets with a brand new 2010 Camaro and wipe out the competition at the track and in street skirmishes. It's going to take time to get some fast 2010 Camaro's on the streets. There are quite a few 11 sec 1/4 mile daily driver Mustang GT's running around (mine included)that are itching to show a new Camaro some tail lights."

Seems pretty clear you're saying you can't wait to show some Camaro's the tail lights of your Mustake, I mean mustang... Maybe you should read your own post before starting to talk stuff and throw out your weak insults. For someone who considers yourself a "Big boy" looks to me you need some growing up to do. Didn't realize you were going to be butt hurt about my little post.. It's sad you reply with insults. Pathetic, you're not even worth my time "Big Boy".
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Ooooooo K.

Up until now this thread has had a humorous feel to it. Now it seems clear to me that people are upset.

All I'm asking is, we restore the friendly banter. Please.
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:45 PM   #163
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Ooooooo K.

Up until now this thread has had a humorous feel to it. Now it seems clear to me that people are upset.

All I'm asking is, we restore the friendly banter. Please.
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You sound like one of those ignorant ricers that's always putting down the C6 Corvette's because they have a "stone age" leaf spring suspension and big inefficient V8's. In spite of some of it's "stone age" components I believe the Corvette to be one of the best handling and performing sports cars on the planet. You may consider the suspension on the Mustang primitive but the live rear axle is lighter and stronger than most IRS types and actually works quite fine on the road course and the dragstrip.
You should also be a bit more careful about throwing the "stone age" reference around. Last time I checked the LS3 (and LS7 in the Vette) were still using pushrods....talk about stone age. But yet they still make great reliable power and deliver decent gas mileage. State of the art, modern design does not always mean something is superior as there is often more than one way to obtain excellent performance results. And yes I'm quite confident that my Whipple supercharged Mustang GT with 443 rwhp-approx 505 hp at the crank (and a host of other goodies, including some upgrades to my "stone age" suspension) will easily beat a 600+ lbs heavier with less power SRT-8 Challenger (and 2010 Camaro when they finally hit the streets). Once guys start modding them with superchargers and nitrous it will probably be a different story. But we'll see. It's going to be fun finding out. Long live the new horsepower wars!!!
Don't forget rice is the true enemy. Not fellow muscle car owners.
Don't forget that GMMP will be availible as soon as you buy your camaro, and most of us (or just me) will have them installed right at the dealers, but dont get me wrong they only can go as high as there limited but thats what after market is for. so I would say you will get a run for your money as soon as they come out. but keep in mind this is mostly my opinion not fact.... Annnd before ricers came out it was raw muscle car war nothin else so i dont think ricers are gonna play to much competition, unless a true idiot really thinks they can beat raw muscle then go ahead.
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two months almost 3 months old. and as with anything that is talked about before official information is release it's a joke to take seriously.
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The front end has my approval, not better looking than the camaro but you guys have to understand its to early for a new gen mustang just like the 1997 to 1998 camaro its just a front end lift, just like the 2002 to the 2003 silverado, just a face lift. The camaro in 2014 will also have a face lift.
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Hate to break it to you, but the Mustang will have a 5.0 liter engine in the 2011 MY.

It will have 400 hp, 365 lb-ft of torque and a 7k rpm redline.

The '05 Mustang did have an IRS with the current S197 chasis, but it was yanked out due to cost. So yes, it is possible to stick one in there again.


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Hate to break it to you, but the Mustang will have a 5.0 liter engine in the 2011 MY.

It will have 400 hp, 365 lb-ft of torque and a 7k rpm redline.

The '05 Mustang did have an IRS with the current S197 chasis, but it was yanked out due to cost. So yes, it is possible to stick one in there again.
Bold words with nothing to back them up.
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How do i know that is true? 5.0 vs 6.2 i don't think so.
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I updated the post. Had to find the thread.
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Magazines are not reliable sources people. Especially not forums. unless it's someone like fbodfather's Ford equivallent talking.
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Magazines are not reliable sources people. Especially not forums. unless it's someone like fbodfather's Ford equivallent talking.
Then that would be FourCam over at the SVT forums.

He has provided the same numbers.
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No mater what the camaro's powerfull styling and engine will have my approval over the current mustang.
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No mater what the camaro's powerfull styling and engine will have my approval over the current mustang.
Well, good for you.
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