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Old 12-22-2009, 04:55 PM   #1
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Arrow How Long Does It Take for the Engine to Break In?

I was talking to this guy and he was saying after 5,000 miles. I had heard 1,500 before. What shouldn't I do before it breaks in?
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:57 PM   #2
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Really? I heard it would be okay after 500 miles. Some with the L99's are having success driving it "spiritedly".
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:46 PM   #3
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Most guys take it easy for the first 500 miles or so, but I ran my car pretty hard from day one. Nothing crazy but some spirited driving with short wide open bursts. By 300 miles or so I drove my car like I stole it. My car has run great from day one (got my car in early June).

1500 miles is a long break in. 5000 miles is ridiculous.

To be honest, your car will be fine no matter how you break it in. I see you have an L99 so you'll need to figure out if your running on the low octane tune or high octane tune. When you get about 500 miles or so on your car I would start driving it fairly aggressively to see how it runs. If it seems kind of slow you might want to try a few 0-60mph runs.

You should be able to pull low 5 sec (or faster) 0-60 mph runs. If you can't you'll need to do the fuse pull mod.
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I waited about 800 miles and then started to take it past 65 mph now i have about 1,099 miles on it and i drive it to atleast 78 mph...i was talkin with this guy at the dealership and he said that most of todays cars dont really need a break-in period but he said just wait till you have 500 before you go crazy with it...
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:27 PM   #6
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but I ran my car pretty hard from day one
Same here, drove it hard form day one!
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Check this out! Its what i did from day one.
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I was reading the Adobe .pdf Manual and it says Not to go over 4000 RPM for 1500 Miles for Engine Break In Period.

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LOAD them hard and change the oil often. It’s the ONLY way to properly break in an engine and anyone who says otherwise has not a clue what they are talking about.

Above is an excerpt form the link NHRA posted. I have been building Harley engine for years and this is exactly how I break them in. Load the rings-Change the oil and ride the sh!t out of it!

Broke the camaro in the same way- Strong Motor in this car!

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I was reading the Adobe .pdf Manual and it says Not to go over 4000 RPM for 1500 Miles for Engine Break In Period.

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Thank you! This is exactly what I was trying to find out.
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Old 12-23-2009, 01:54 PM   #11
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LOAD them hard and change the oil often. It’s the ONLY way to properly break in an engine and anyone who says otherwise has not a clue what they are talking about.

Above is an excerpt form the link NHRA posted. I have been building Harley engine for years and this is exactly how I break them in. Load the rings-Change the oil and ride the sh!t out of it!

Broke the camaro in the same way- Strong Motor in this car!

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So you're recommending to go over 5 RPM? And how often do I need to do it? Mine has almost 280 miles on it. Is it too late? I haven't been driving THAT hard, but I'd say pretty hard.
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Old 12-23-2009, 02:56 PM   #12
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So you're recommending to go over 5 RPM?
No recommendations from me, i just know what I did. Also I think you meant 4500 Rpms?

you wrote 5rpm.
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No recommendations from me, i just know what I did. Also I think you meant 4500 Rpms?

you wrote 5rpm.
I meant 5,000.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:36 PM   #15
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Page 192. of the Manual starts to cover the 2010 Camaro Break Operation.
I hope this helps you and others. It may not be true as far as from a Mechanical point of view but I thought I would post it back here since I downloaded from here.

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Old 12-24-2009, 01:34 AM   #16
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I'm not an expert, but this is how I look at it. Every guy I've talked to, who has major experience building engines, says to break it in hard. Most of the guys I've talked to who don't build engines or are just your normal average joe say to follow the manual.

Now if you're really sick, will you go to someone that has lot's of experience healing people (doctor) or just follow the advice of the guy on the street? Break it in hard. And don't let the engine slow the car down by keeping it in gear when you let off. This creates a vacuum which sucks oil back up into the cylinder. After you accelerate, shift it to neutral to let the engine wind down on it's own.
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Old 12-24-2009, 09:44 AM   #17
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Page 192. of the Manual starts to cover the 2010 Camaro Break Operation.
I hope this helps you and others. It may not be true as far as from a Mechanical point of view but I thought I would post it back here since I downloaded from here.

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If you want minimal power gains, then follow the manual. Otherwise, follow the link posted by NHRA. I'll take Darin's word over a book's anyday. Load them early, load them hard. No engine breaking, let it coast and use the brakes to slow down.

Read Darin's thread!

Edit: Oh, and use search. This has been asked/covered quite a bit.
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:23 AM   #18
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This has been discussed numerous times. Basically what you are trying to do is seat the rings on the pistons the full length of the travel in the bore. Then the bore is initially honed it has a cross hatch pattern in it. When you break in an engine you ideally want to seat the rings to match the hone in the bore (among other things going on in the engine). What you need to remember tho is heat is going to be an initial issue so you dont want to over rev the engine (bouncing off redline is a no no) and sustained hauling ass is bad also. This is where loading the engine and spirited driving come into play.

Basically drive it through the rpm range but dont keep it pegged, load the engine as has been described and CHANGE YOUR OIL OFTEN. My recommendation would be at 500 miles initially for the oil change.

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A friend told me that, for testing proposes, GM ran the engines for more than 12 hours nonstop before they are installed. Is this true?

If so then we should be able to run the car hard from day one. In my case, I did some sprinting driving for about 500 miles.
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I was reading the Adobe .pdf Manual and it says Not to go over 4000 RPM for 1500 Miles for Engine Break In Period.

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Well, I think I screwed the pooch on that one.
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If you think that I'm Not Going Over 4k Before 1500 Miles Then You Don't Know Me Very Well,...

I'm sure I'll be following the NHRA Thread Fairly Closely,.. Probably Not has hard because I dont have as many open streets as it sounds like they do around my area but i'll get it up to or around the high 70's or so.

I dont believe in Street Racing plus the Freaking Tires are $325-$350 a pop.

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I left sideways across 3 lanes and keep it going for the last 4000 miles.

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looooooool 5000 miles!!!!!!!

i drove it to 161 MPH in the first day looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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looooooool 5000 miles!!!!!!!

i drove it to 161 MPH in the first day looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
You drove your 2SS Up To 161 MPH?

There Isnt a Speed Limiter On These Cars?

I thought most cars had a Speed Limiter that Stopped them at like 1110-115 or something, I know for a fact my truck has it at 100 MPH, I had to buy a SuperChips Programmer to remove it.
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On a modern engine, freshly cast and assembled from the factory, the tolerances between and dimensions of the rings and cylinders are so accurate the rings are almost completely broken in by the time you take delivery.

I'd follow what the manual calls for. Saying not to go over a certain rpm could be more for the bearings than anything else. And when GM says don't beat on it for x amount of miles, you have to take into consideration that the transmission and diff are breaking in too.

I'm just saying I would be suprised to see any consistant, repeatable, significant benefit to breaking a factory car in hard, that would outweigh any possible long term damage done to the rest of the drivetrain during break in.
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