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Old 12-31-2009, 05:29 PM   #69
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Looks like total garbage. Wonder why the challengers arent having these issues?
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Old 12-31-2009, 05:34 PM   #70
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Looks like total garbage. Wonder why the challengers arent having these issues?
I agree. This makes the crappy weights that are already a part of the early camaro's look great in comparison. Let's hope this is fixed for the 2011 model year.
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Old 12-31-2009, 07:20 PM   #71
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your right... your not an engineer...



be rest assured ladies and gents, if those dampeners didn't need to be on there; they would not be.


say what you want about GM's financial and executive team... but their engineers dont waste time engineering something and then validating it unless it's needed.


it's a necessity, if you dont like it... feel free to find a better solution that matches a 100k mile warrenty.



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Like I said I'm no engineer....I am however a bit of a thinker.

If there are dozens of car models out there with Brembo brakes, it would seem logical that the Chevrolet engineers could have copied the Ferrari, Bugati, Porsche, Cadillac, and Chrysler engineers' solution to the squealing brake problem.

Unless of course you feel those engineers AND the ones at Brembo couldn't validate why the dampeners were necessary. I'm not dumping on the engineers at GM. I am simply stating there is more to the story. What is it about the Camaro that makes the dampeners necessary?


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Old 12-31-2009, 07:34 PM   #72
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It looks like the caliper from the Porsche is from the Cayenne SUV not a 911 or even Cayman/Boxster. I have yet to see these balancers or weights as they are called on any other car wearing Brembos. There is a guy on here who installed the 6 piston caliper from Brembo.....no weights or squealing.I am no engineer but something just doesn't add up. My guess is there is something happening with the Camaro specifically.
You are correct it is from a Cayenne.
my 4gen has Porsche GT3 brembos onit and the factory pads has the dampers on the them also. Just Porsche designed its dampers on the backing plates as to not be such an eye sore.
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Old 01-01-2010, 02:28 AM   #73
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Solution might be = Buy a Vette?
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Old 01-01-2010, 05:03 AM   #74
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I expect that the poster means to apply the lube to the points where the pad backing plate sits in the caliper. Inadequate lubrication at those points contributes to squealing.
Yeah, I took JICPerformance the same way. Definitely put the lube on the contacting metal parts on the back of the pads. At two connecting points on the back of the outside pad and one connecting point on the back of the inside pad where the round master cylinder makes contact. It's worked for me before and a good point made. I'm gonna find the best break quiet lube I can and put a bunch at these points and hope it shuts up the embarrassing squeal.
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:31 AM   #75
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Harmonic dampening technology is used frequently in other industries, too. In the picture below, you can see high voltage transmission lines using harmonic dampeners to cancel out wave motion induced by wind or earth quakes.

The dampers on high voltage lines take many forms, but the most basic is that of two heavy lead weights attached near the end of each line segment near the transmission line support tower or pole.

Not pretty and very low tech. I think I like my Camaro's early stick-on lead weights better than the latest incarnation of the damper.
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:04 AM   #76
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Yeah, I took JICPerformance the same way. Definitely put the lube on the contacting metal parts on the back of the pads. At two connecting points on the back of the outside pad and one connecting point on the back of the inside pad where the round master cylinder makes contact. It's worked for me before and a good point made. I'm gonna find the best break quiet lube I can and put a bunch at these points and hope it shuts up the embarrassing squeal.
As long as it doesn't contaminate the braking surface it's fine. Should be specific with your audience tho, never use lubricant on pads or rotors.

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Old 01-01-2010, 10:27 AM   #77
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As long as it doesn't contaminate the braking surface it's fine. Should be specific with your audience tho, never use lubricant on pads or rotors.

...Remember the guy that flushed his engine with a water hose?

What about the guy who put NOS Energy Drink in his gas?
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Old 01-01-2010, 12:07 PM   #78
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Solution might be = Buy a Vette?
Or not! My '09 Z51 'Vette's brakes squealed also and was embarrassing. That's one of the reasons, plus no back seat, I got a Camaro SS. My brakes don't squeal, yet, only have 2200 miles, but I don't have the weights, or skates on mine. Why do some have them, some don't?
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Old 01-01-2010, 12:45 PM   #79
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I noticed these to at the local Cars & Coffee meet last weekend. They look Fugly
I will keep my weights instead of what looks like part of a chain that is missing a link!
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Old 01-01-2010, 01:02 PM   #80
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Thats the nost ugly shit I've ever seen an engineer come up with....but if they think it's something that has to be there, then hells bells.

Hopefully they figure this thing out sooner than later and make it asthetically pleasing.

Or at least better than them little cymbal looking things that the mechanical monkey bangs together.

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Old 01-01-2010, 01:26 PM   #81
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Old 01-01-2010, 01:36 PM   #82
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It is part of a high performance system, and there is a reason for them. The part that I don't get is that there are several members here that don't have either on their cars. Did their dealers change their pads out or something?
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:52 PM   #84
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Quite far from. You can apply grease to the back of the pads to help smooth vibrations between the pads and the pistons to reduce or eliminate brake squeal.

You will find that many of your aftermarket brake pads will come with a small packet of grease in the package.
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:56 PM   #85
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DO NOT PUT ANY TYPE OF LUBE ON YOUR BRAKES!
Please research before posting incorrect information. Traditional caliper pins are always lubed. While the external pins on the brembos do not require lubrication, applying high temperature brake grease to the back of the pads is recommend to help with noise and aid in piston to pad wear.
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