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Old 01-03-2010, 10:53 AM   #26
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PM me with pricing for TVS2300 with installation, no other mods, how far north in NC are you?
Pm sent, we are positioned between Charlotte and greensboro, but we ship anywhere
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If you will be happy with 525HP at the rear wheels, the Lingenfelter 570 package will work for you. I'm not exactly sure what the HP at the crank is, but it is somewhere around 600+?

The chasis dyno gave 525HP, and 492 Torque.
That was an extra 150HP over stock!!!
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Does any one have experience with the Whipple on any LS motor ?
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Welcome 4Xchamp!! Another person from MA! Where'd you get your car, looks like Best Chevrolet in Hingham??
Anyways, congrats on the car and I'd say either turbo or Pro-Charger. I'm not much of a supercharger type guy, but a lot of people on here run the supercharger. Good luck and keep us posted!
Thanks , that's West Chevy in Woodbury , CT . I'm in RI
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If you will be happy with 525HP at the rear wheels, the Lingenfelter 570 package will work for you. I'm not exactly sure what the HP at the crank is, but it is somewhere around 600+?

The chasis dyno gave 525HP, and 492 Torque.
That was an extra 150HP over stock!!!
I'm really happy with those numbers for $10,995.
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Stratman, 525 RWHP is 630 ish at the crank...

I have the 570 LPE and it is awesome! Worth every penny!

My vote would be the TVS2300 Magnacharger. Makes good power and is proven technology that is reliable. Lots of recommendations for this S/C from the top Tuners. This is probably the most widely used power adder to date on the 2010 Camaro's.
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This was just my opinion and a result of weeks of internet research about different performance shops. Also the reason why my camaro is there now!! You asked what we think and what are our experiences so there is mine.

Hers 's a photo link to the LPE Zo 6 we had .
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Does any one have experience with the Whipple on any LS motor ?

Whipple is a great unit as well, and Dustin & the team there offer great support.
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Old 01-03-2010, 07:27 PM   #33
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Stratman, 525 RWHP is 630 ish at the crank...
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posted in another thread by MTI racing:

"The biggest difference between the 1900 and 2300 is blower size.
We have found through our testing here at MTI Racing that the 1900 at 7-8 psi is best
for MOST applications because it requires less engine power to turn the supercharger.
This allows for more horsepower to be applied with less engine strain.
Creating more power at lower rpms, where it is safer and where most cars live while being driven.
The 2300 is a good kit for a built up motor looking to make over 850 hp.
So if you are looking to supercharge your relatively stock 6.2L the 1900 is your best application.
Thanks for your posts everyone. www.mtiracing.com"
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posted in another thread by MTI racing:

"The biggest difference between the 1900 and 2300 is blower size.
We have found through our testing here at MTI Racing that the 1900 at 7-8 psi is best
for MOST applications because it requires less engine power to turn the supercharger.
This allows for more horsepower to be applied with less engine strain.
Creating more power at lower rpms, where it is safer and where most cars live while being driven.
The 2300 is a good kit for a built up motor looking to make over 850 hp.
So if you are looking to supercharge your relatively stock 6.2L the 1900 is your best application.
Thanks for your posts everyone. www.mtiracing.com"
If I had a whole bunch of TVS1900's to sell, I might try saying something like that. If you see it "said" on the internet, it has to be true.

It takes a 2.9" pulley on my TVS2300 to make a "miserly" 672 hp at 8.5psi. That's a pretty small pulley and that's a long way from 850hp. I don't even think they make a drive pulley small enough for a TVS1900 to feed my LS3 at those same power levels. You'd have to overdrive the rear pulley set up and spin the snot out of the 1900 to even come close. I'd have to politely say that MTI's stance on the 1900 vs the 2300 is bunk. There's a pretty good reason the folks that make the Magnuson TVS blowers recommend the 2300 on LS3's. It fits and performs pretty darn well. I bet if you measured the power it took to turn a 2300 or 1900 at mild or no boost, the difference wouldn't be significant. As air flow requirements and power levels go up, the 1900's need not apply for the job.
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The Ken Bell is looking really good . I'm going to give them a call this week .
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:13 PM   #37
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The Ken Bell is looking really good . I'm going to give them a call this week .

There are already so many great systems out their for the Camaro. The toughest part is choosing which one you want... So many choices. Whatever you choose, your rear tires will never be the same...
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most of what your paying for with Hennessey and Lingenfelter is the name. You can piece together the same kits and save your self thousand of dollars. I have a Vortech kit with the V-3 supercharger, ARH long tubes and magnaflow mufflers and im making about 650 HP at the crank, only cost me about 8k as opposed to 20k
I would agree with you except that the 650 packages from HPE and LPE also include ported cylinder heads, ported throttle body, zr1 camshaft, upgraded fuel pump, forged internals, 160 thermostat, supercharger and 3yr/ 36,000 mile warranty for 20k....now if you just want the s/c and pipes it is 8k for that from both
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I would agree with you except that the 650 packages from HPE and LPE also include ported cylinder heads, ported throttle body, zr1 camshaft, upgraded fuel pump, forged internals, 160 thermostat, supercharger and 3yr/ 36,000 mile warranty for 20k....now if you just want the s/c and pips it is 8k for that from both

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I would agree with you except that the 650 packages from HPE and LPE also include ported cylinder heads, ported throttle body, zr1 camshaft, upgraded fuel pump, forged internals, 160 thermostat, supercharger and 3yr/ 36,000 mile warranty for 20k....now if you just want the s/c and pipes it is 8k for that from both
When I was researching, only LPE was offering the forged internals with the 650 package, the HPE 650 package did not. I don't know if they have changed this now or not.
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Kenne Bell is looking really good... I would take a look at them first and then compare that kit to the others. I've got Kenne Bell in my Mustang and it pulls like a mother. I expect no less for the Camaro kit.
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Does any one know what the stick trans and diff can take on the street ?
I personally think it depends on how you drive it. I for instance have 650 rwhp at 6.5 psi. I gun my car short shift at 5900rpm or so and it feels incredible. I do this to try and not strain the engine so much. So really I am at about 6psi when I shift. Have I taken it to 6500? Not yet. Will I? Yes on occasion but very seldom...... I don't feel like rebuilding my motor anytime soon.

Now one who runs to 6500rpm barking tires every gear switch is gonna pop something sooner than later. Count on that!

I personally think 600 to 650rwhp is all the stock internals can handle. Please chime in anyone who thinks otherwise.


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I personally think it depends on how you drive it. I for instance have 650 rwhp at 6.5 psi. I gun my car short shift at 5900rpm or so and it feels incredible. I do this to try and not strain the engine so much. So really I am at about 6psi when I shift. Have I taken it to 6500? Not yet. Will I? Yes on occasion but very seldom...... I don't feel like rebuilding my motor anytime soon.

Now one who runs to 6500rpm barking tires every gear switch is gonna pop something sooner than later. Count on that!

I personally think 600 to 650rwhp is all the stock internals can handle. Please chime in anyone who thinks otherwise.


I am no expert by any means but this is my thinking on your question.
Lingenfelter 650 package replaces internals so this shouldn't become the issue down the road and has 3/36 engine warranty even at this level ..... time will tell on other packages that might be pushing the limits (for camaro5 members sake - hope I'm wrong). Either way, I feel more confident with LPE (for the TVS2300 setup) over HPE, SLP, and Callaway packages. I checked out numerous options - which seemed like forever, and the most reputable builder circled back to Lingenfelter especially at higher HP levels. Was highly considering Callaway until Carbon Fiber ground effects failed to be available for their package (even though on all their advertizing) - and if CF was eventually available it seemed likely to be extremely overpriced from inside sources! HPE had the lowest warranty 1 yr/12k miles, versus 3/36 on others...... sounds like HPE isn't too confident that they're not pushing the limits. Then again, I tend to hold onto my cars forever..... so longevity if important. I'm sure we'll keep finding new "weak links" though. For those of you installing yourself or using other builders - more power to you and enjoy (30 years ago I would done the whole job myself).

.... Just an afterthought - GM must have offered their great warranty knowing we couldn't stand to wait that long before modifying! Smart tactic.

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Old 01-19-2010, 06:14 PM   #44
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the HPE650 is a great package, and they have built many HPE650's, with no problems.
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It's definitely the Bell or the Whipple for me .
Is either kit available yet ?
I like the Bell's intercooled aspect and not having the extra shaft and gears , I also know the Whipple is proven and been around a while .
Ultimately the decision will probably come down to customer service and who I feel compfortable with because either way the car will be a rocket .
Any of you have experiences with either company ?
In an effort to not expand the ongoing skirmish in another thread , feel free to pm me .
I'd really like to hear first hand from present and former clients of theirs .
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I'm going with the Ken Bell . Spoke to Matt @ KB just a short while ago but the liquid cooled unit should be available in two weeks . I'm going to wait it out .
I like the fact it is cooled and also like the fact you can make a lot more power as you upgrade engine components/boost .
It seems to me , the most efficient , simplest and strongest unit available as of now.
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I'm going with the Ken Bell . Spoke to Matt @ KB just a short while ago but the liquid cooled unit should be available in two weeks . I'm going to wait it out .
I like the fact it is cooled and also like the fact you can make a lot more power as you upgrade engine components/boost .
It seems to me , the most efficient , simplest and strongest unit available as of now.
Good luck.. You will be one of the first with the KB (or whipple) on the LS3.

They havn't shipped any with a LS3 setup as far as I know..

Looks good on paper. If what they say is true, it would be a good choice.

I am happy with my TVS2300 from LPE.
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I'm going with the Ken Bell . Spoke to Matt @ KB just a short while ago but the liquid cooled unit should be available in two weeks . I'm going to wait it out .
I like the fact it is cooled and also like the fact you can make a lot more power as you upgrade engine components/boost .
It seems to me , the most efficient , simplest and strongest unit available as of now.
I thought the 2.8 is not liquid cooled only the 3.6 and 4.2 are.
Are they coming out with the 2.8 LC ?
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LC 2.8 will be avail in 2 weeks , I'm waiting for that unit .
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How about the Edelbrock e-force? Preliminary numbers 524 rwhp, with an available ENTIRE powertrain warranty 3 year 36K miles for about $300--kit is available for about $6500 plus install. Lingenfelter and all the others with exception being SLP (I believe) only warranty the motor or at best the motor and trans, not the rear end or axles. Food for thought! read the warranty word for word and the only specific exclusion is a change to the supplied tune....
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