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Old 08-10-2008, 03:15 PM   #1
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FOUND PETITION TO GET RID OF FRONT PLATES

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GO SIGN THE PETITION. WE NEED THESE THINGS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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what wrong with front plates, I don't see the gov. having a problem with cause you have to pay extra for a second plate right.....
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you don't have a front plate on your charger. Would you drill holes and put one on?
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you don't have a front plate on your charger. Would you drill holes and put one on?
no......, but If the dealer had installed one prior to when I brought it I wouldn't mind

I don't get the petition thing??? whats going on
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The california government only requires the front license plate just to give tickets. I've done a substatial amount of research and found that California alone had generated $14M on redlight tickets alone. A large amount of which is from front plates. Now when those tickets that are sent out to people form those cameras have a funny story. Listen to this. Now when the picture is taken it is sent to ACS, the company that owns the camaras, yes OWNS, the camaras dont belond to hte city they rent them, then employees at the company decide which pictures should be cited and send those to the police. Now how corrupt is this. Tesitfiying officers are given a "script" from ACS to basicaly read as their testimony. I knew the world was corupt but this is honestly too far. This now interfers with our rights. The traffic court judges just want to get out of court and get home do they disregard anything the defendent says. I swear to you read about it and see how you will be disgusted of how unhuman this government actuallty is.

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Old 08-11-2008, 09:33 AM   #6
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What are the Mustang guys going to do with the flat spot on their front bumpers?

I suppose you could just just screwgun a Confederate Jack plate with an Omega Psi Phi frame on there. Just to confuse people.

(I actually saw that once. well, actually it was a rebel flag sticker next to an Omega Psi Phi sticker on the back window. )
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The california government only requires the front license plate just to give tickets. I've done a substatial amount of research and found that California alone had generated $14M on redlight tickets alone. A large amount of which is from front plates. Now when those tickets that are sent out to people form those cameras have a funny story. Listen to this. Now when the picture is taken it is sent to ACS, the company that owns the camaras, yes OWNS, the camaras dont belond to hte city they rent them, then employees at the company decide which pictures should be cited and send those to the police. Now how corrupt is this. Tesitfiying officers are given a "script" from ACS to basicaly read as their testimony. I knew the world was corupt but this is honestly too far. This now interfers with our rights. The traffic court judges just want to get out of court and get home do they disregard anything the defendent says. I swear to you read about it and see how you will be disgusted of how unhuman this government actuallty is.

This is the one of the best articles:

http://blogs.edmunds.com/karl/2006/0...f-revenue.html
...and that is one of the best posts

Inhuman and disgusting? I wouldn't go that far. I prefer the words corrupt and greedy.

Arlington's cameras are run by American Traffic Solutions. (atsol.com Automatically and Truly Shit Out of Luck)

We didn't get to vote on whether or not we, the citizens, wanted redlight cameras.

Machines are not and cannot be TCLEOS certified. They cannot legally enforce traffic law. That's why it is a Civil law violation and not a traffic citation.

The company has been caught tampering with the duration of yellow lights at intersections that they felt were "underperforming" financially. According to the City, it was a "technical error" only. Not an attempt to increase revenue. <cough>BULLSHIT!<cough>

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I swear...if people obeyed traffic laws LIKE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO, they wouldn't get stopped and issued a citation.

AND....FURTHERMORE, if people were to obey traffic laws (ie: NOT RUNNING RED LIGHTS), traffic accidents would decrease DRAMATICALLY.

The whole purpose behind red light cameras is misconstrued to be a money generator for the city. Everyone thinks "redlight cameras??? Just another way to screw over the common man and take his money." The purpose of red light cameras are to force people to slow down and not ....RUN RED LIGHTS. What is the main purpose? To prevent (or try to deter) traffic accidents. HELLO?!?!?!

YOU don't work the streets and YOU don't see the amount of accidents we work EVERY SINGLE FREAKING DAY (many of which happen because people run red lights!!!)

So keep on believing that red light cameras are ONLY there to hit you in the pocket book....and MAYBE one day someone will see that redlight camera as they are approaching the intersection and go "CRAP!!!!" as they hit the brakes slowing down and stopping as YOU go passing through the intersection avoiding getting T-boned.

Sure....keep complaining about traffic laws. They are there to save your life, the lives of those in the car with you, and the lives of everyone else on the road.

And no...I don't deal with red light cameras in my city. Yes, it's civil and not criminal. Avoid the problems altogether by slowing and stopping.




Front license plate issue......

Fine. Don't put a front license on your new Camaro. When your Camaro is stolen and it's behind me on the parkway while I'm in my patrol vehicle, I'll run that front license plate......wait, there is NO front license plate????.....shoot, well, forget it because I can't get a plate so I can't run it and once again, they get away turning off behind me before I can get the back plate. But it's okay because you didn't want to put that front license plate on there anyway.



RANT OVER.


Sorry bout this rant.....but I see it everyday. I see the accidents and the people who are at fault for them because they fail to (or refuse to) obey traffic laws. I have seen the people who die on our roads because others ran a red light. I have seen the dad and his son who went out to get ice cream and when on the way home, got t-boned by someone who was speeding trying to make the red light. When someone tells me that red light cameras are ONLY put there to generate money, I say BULL SH!T.
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Old 08-11-2008, 02:11 PM   #10
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+1 This thread just got owned.
I loved it.

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I swear...if people obeyed traffic laws LIKE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO, they wouldn't get stopped and issued a citation.

AND....FURTHERMORE, if people were to obey traffic laws (ie: NOT RUNNING RED LIGHTS), traffic accidents would decrease DRAMATICALLY.

The whole purpose behind red light cameras is misconstrued to be a money generator for the city. Everyone thinks "redlight cameras??? Just another way to screw over the common man and take his money." The purpose of red light cameras are to force people to slow down and not ....RUN RED LIGHTS. What is the main purpose? To prevent (or try to deter) traffic accidents. HELLO?!?!?!

YOU don't work the streets and YOU don't see the amount of accidents we work EVERY SINGLE FREAKING DAY (many of which happen because people run red lights!!!)

So keep on believing that red light cameras are ONLY there to hit you in the pocket book....and MAYBE one day someone will see that redlight camera as they are approaching the intersection and go "CRAP!!!!" as they hit the brakes slowing down and stopping as YOU go passing through the intersection avoiding getting T-boned.

Sure....keep complaining about traffic laws. They are there to save your life, the lives of those in the car with you, and the lives of everyone else on the road.

And no...I don't deal with red light cameras in my city. Yes, it's civil and not criminal. Avoid the problems altogether by slowing and stopping.




Front license plate issue......

Fine. Don't put a front license on your new Camaro. When your Camaro is stolen and it's behind me on the parkway while I'm in my patrol vehicle, I'll run that front license plate......wait, there is NO front license plate????.....shoot, well, forget it because I can't get a plate so I can't run it and once again, they get away turning off behind me before I can get the back plate. But it's okay because you didn't want to put that front license plate on there anyway.



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Sorry bout this rant.....but I see it everyday. I see the accidents and the people who are at fault for them because they fail to (or refuse to) obey traffic laws. I have seen the people who die on our roads because others ran a red light. I have seen the dad and his son who went out to get ice cream and when on the way home, got t-boned by someone who was speeding trying to make the red light. When someone tells me that red light cameras are ONLY put there to generate money, I say BULL SH!T.
So, you are okay with some civillian company, randomly changing the duration of the yellow light to help "poor performing" intersections.

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Longer yellow lights will do more to reduce crashes at intersections than any other method, including the use of red-light cameras, according to a new report.

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My problem is that it is a corporation enforcing the law. When they feel that they are not making enough money, they change the rules to increase cash-flow with a complete disregard for public safety.

ATSOL changed the duration of one yellow light in a 45 mph zone to 1.4 seconds because it was not generating enough revenue. The city had to dismiss hundreds of tickets and quietly tried to sweep the matter under the carpet.

1.4 freaking seconds!

The recommended time for yellow is 1 second per 10 mph.

You are okay with that sort of civillian corporate control?


Front plate? I don't like it but I have one now. My Firebird was purchased with no front plate. I got pulled over. It's a $200 ticket. I got mine dismissed by taking off the back plate, sticking it on the front bumper with rolled up masking tape, photographing it, putting it back on the back and taking the picture to court. I had to pay an $11 dismissal fee. Much better than $200.

You can bet that I got a new pair of plates when it was time to renew.
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I swear...if people obeyed traffic laws LIKE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO, they wouldn't get stopped and issued a citation.

AND....FURTHERMORE, if people were to obey traffic laws (ie: NOT RUNNING RED LIGHTS), traffic accidents would decrease DRAMATICALLY.

The whole purpose behind red light cameras is misconstrued to be a money generator for the city. Everyone thinks "redlight cameras??? Just another way to screw over the common man and take his money." The purpose of red light cameras are to force people to slow down and not ....RUN RED LIGHTS. What is the main purpose? To prevent (or try to deter) traffic accidents. HELLO?!?!?!

YOU don't work the streets and YOU don't see the amount of accidents we work EVERY SINGLE FREAKING DAY (many of which happen because people run red lights!!!)

So keep on believing that red light cameras are ONLY there to hit you in the pocket book....and MAYBE one day someone will see that redlight camera as they are approaching the intersection and go "CRAP!!!!" as they hit the brakes slowing down and stopping as YOU go passing through the intersection avoiding getting T-boned.

Sure....keep complaining about traffic laws. They are there to save your life, the lives of those in the car with you, and the lives of everyone else on the road.

And no...I don't deal with red light cameras in my city. Yes, it's civil and not criminal. Avoid the problems altogether by slowing and stopping.




Front license plate issue......

Fine. Don't put a front license on your new Camaro. When your Camaro is stolen and it's behind me on the parkway while I'm in my patrol vehicle, I'll run that front license plate......wait, there is NO front license plate????.....shoot, well, forget it because I can't get a plate so I can't run it and once again, they get away turning off behind me before I can get the back plate. But it's okay because you didn't want to put that front license plate on there anyway.



RANT OVER.


Sorry bout this rant.....but I see it everyday. I see the accidents and the people who are at fault for them because they fail to (or refuse to) obey traffic laws. I have seen the people who die on our roads because others ran a red light. I have seen the dad and his son who went out to get ice cream and when on the way home, got t-boned by someone who was speeding trying to make the red light. When someone tells me that red light cameras are ONLY put there to generate money, I say BULL SH!T.
Tag apparently you dont live in L.A., or for that matter California. Am I correct? Out here in L.A. we not only have cameras in the intersection we have them behind the intersection so they can see your front plate and you back plate.
Next in the state of California when the cameras when up accidents caused by running red lights when down by 60% BUT rear end collisions went up by 140%. Now I dont think thats a fair trade. Do you?
BTW: You being a cop you should know this. L.A. has one of the most, if not the most corrupt police departments in the Country And Glendale isnt very far behind. I have reasons: I was on Glenoaks avenue driving and went through a yellow light and a officer pulled me over and told me I ran a red. I go to court expected to pay a $500 and refused to. The officer insisted on telling me it was a red. I fought back. The jusge called the balif to escort me out of the courtroom and while a 300lb samoian dude was carring me out of the room I called the cop a liar son of a female dog and a thief. I didnt pay the fine and recieved a sepina for court the next week. I went told my case and the cop admited he "might have been mistaked". It was the end of June and he need to give out all his tickets. So he gave out 4 bullshit ones including mine. So all of the ones he gave out were dismissed.
Second. My cousin had blue lights on an old civic some years ago. One day on Glendale Ave. Right passed Monteray he was driving and the guy infront of him ALSO HAD BLUE LIGHTS. The cop sitting in a parking lot on his bike let the white guy infront of him go but pulled over my cousin and me. WHY because the amount of rasicm on Glendale against the Armenian population is ridiculously high. We are the MAJORITY we are the ones that made Glendale this thriving city that it is. 74% of all small busnesses in Glendale are Armenian owned. Our City council is made up of 4 out of 7 Armenians. Yet the white people cant stand to see any oen do better than them.

So Tag until you been to a city and lived among its corruption all you life you cant begin to understand anything about it.
Now my rant is over.

And I mean none of this offensively. Well unless your a Glendale cop then pretty much screw you.
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Tag apparently you dont live in L.A., or for that matter California. Am I correct? Out here in L.A. we not only have cameras in the intersection we have them behind the intersection so they can see your front plate and you back plate.
That has nothing to do with the topic of cameras at intersections.
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Next in the state of California when the cameras when up accidents caused by running red lights when down by 60% BUT rear end collisions went up by 140%. Now I dont think thats a fair trade. Do you?
How the hell does this justify your argument? That 140% is because people expect that it's ok to run the redlights, which is the point...they shouldn't expect that it's ok to do it. And those 140% paid for it with fines and raised insurance, and to them I say "Good for you, you idiots...cry me a river."
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Ok so the white kids didn't get pulled over for ther blue lights. But you did, which means you had them and you were illegal.

Umm...so...you were illegal and got caught and you're mad about it? Don't do it if you don't want to get caught. Virginia Beach, which is where I lievd when I owned my Honda and my Supra, were notorious for cracking down on imports. I knew my tint was too dark and my quiet (but still aftermarket) muffler was illegal. So when the mullets in the foxbody would fly by me with their glasspacks and I'd get pulled over, I would just accept that if I wanted to be left alone I would have to make my car 100% street legal by the letter of the law because it's an import and VABPD was scared of imports because of the F&F trends that were happening all over the 7-cities (this was in the early part of the decade obviously).

Moral of the story is your rant holds no water, sir.
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That has nothing to do with the topic of cameras at intersections.
It has to do with the front plate. If they're going to put a camera behind you too, what is the point of requiring a front Plate. It doesnt make sense to me.
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I don't mind the intersection cameras, but the front looks so much cleaner and more menacing without the plate. Let us stick it in the windshield so the camera takes a picture with the plate right next to our face. I don't run red lights ever so it doesn't phase me, but I'd rather stick it in the windshield so the front stays clean.
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I don't mind the intersection cameras, but the front looks so much cleaner and more menacing without the plate. Let us stick it in the windshield so the camera takes a picture with the plate right next to our face. I don't run red lights ever so it doesn't phase me, but I'd rather stick it in the windshield so the front stays clean.
Well it's perfectly legal to put the tag in the windshield, so no worries.
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I always evade those cameras, My trick is I use some type of oily/Glossy spray on my plates and when the camera shoots a flash to take a picture, the plate is so glossy on film you see nothing but a glare, cops can't say shit cause its looks like a regular plate, just brand new, paid $20 for the can out of a car & driver mag, got flashed over 20 times over the period and no tickets
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Or...and here's a wild thought.....
Don't run red lights? If you don't do anything wrong then they can't do anything to you. Why all the effort to "beat" them?
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Well i Glendale they find ways to screw you over trust me. they tried to give me a ticket because The Beast's windshield wipers' paint came off and the glare from the underlying chrome was a "distraction"
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:12 PM   #22
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Well it's perfectly legal to put the tag in the windshield, so no worries.
Can you prove this for CA law? Last I checked with the local police, windshield front license plates (visible of course) were illegal and they loved giving ricers tickets for not having the plate mounted on the front bumper.
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So, you are okay with some civillian company, randomly changing the duration of the yellow light to help "poor performing" intersections.
NO. As far as I'm concerned, civilian companies SHOULD NOT have the right to change ANY timing of ANY light. Timing of lights should be mandated by city/local govt's and should be "set" in stone. If the timing of the light were to change, it would be the CITY to change it and not a civilian company. The civilian company would need to work AROUND the timing set up by the city.


My problem is that it is a corporation enforcing the law. When they feel that they are not making enough money, they change the rules to increase cash-flow with a complete disregard for public safety.

Again, it is my understanding that these citations are CIVIL....meaning that the court can't set out a warrant for you to show up. They can send it to a bill collector and mess with your credit (which is outrageous). But, it's civil. No one should be changing rules except for the city. You can I, it sounds like, agree on this one.

ATSOL changed the duration of one yellow light in a 45 mph zone to 1.4 seconds because it was not generating enough revenue. The city had to dismiss hundreds of tickets and quietly tried to sweep the matter under the carpet.

1.4 freaking seconds!

The recommended time for yellow is 1 second per 10 mph.

You are okay with that sort of civillian corporate control?

Again....NO. That wasn't my point. All things equal.....if the yellow is calculated properly and NO ONE can change the lights timing, then there are no worries. It' a regular old normal red light. You just don't run it. Obviously, people found out about it, the tickets were dismissed, and I"m sure there had to have been some ramifications on the company for doing this.
Front plate? I don't like it but I have one now. My Firebird was purchased with no front plate. I got pulled over. It's a $200 ticket. I got mine dismissed by taking off the back plate, sticking it on the front bumper with rolled up masking tape, photographing it, putting it back on the back and taking the picture to court. I had to pay an $11 dismissal fee. Much better than $200.
That would have been hilarious if the Judge said, "Let's run outside to your car just to make sure it's fixed."
You can bet that I got a new pair of plates when it was time to renew.
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Tag apparently you dont live in L.A., or for that matter California. Am I correct? Out here in L.A. we not only have cameras in the intersection we have them behind the intersection so they can see your front plate and you back plate.
No. I don't live in LA. My dad does. I visit there.
Next in the state of California when the cameras when up accidents caused by running red lights when down by 60% BUT rear end collisions went up by 140%. Now I dont think thats a fair trade. Do you?
I think it's sad that the people following don't know how to pay attention. The people in front ARE paying attention. There's no quick remedy for those who can't pay attention when following another vehicle. Try highways....people ride other peoples bumpers at 60 mph thinking this is okay. All it takes is that one person having a blow out....one person cutting off another ahead of you....traffic backed up on the other side of a hill that you can't see....a matress falls out of the bed of a pickup in front of you....any one of these things can happen and all it takes is the person following too closely not paying attention for one second and you have a 5 car pile up. The same goes for intersections. The guy in front tries to stop for the red light. The guy behind is at fault for failing to control their speed and they usually aren't paying attention. Tell me this......... If everyone gave themselves a safe following distance between them and the car in front of them, would the amount of traffic accidents have gone up that much? NOPE. Again, it all comes back to obeying traffic laws. You know you can also get a ticket for following too closely. Just pointing out that giving yourself a distance between the car in front of you and you is always a good idea.

BTW: You being a cop you should know this. L.A. has one of the most, if not the most corrupt police departments in the Country And Glendale isnt very far behind. I have reasons: I was on Glenoaks avenue driving and went through a yellow light and a officer pulled me over and told me I ran a red. I go to court expected to pay a $500 and refused to. The officer insisted on telling me it was a red. I fought back. The jusge called the balif to escort me out of the courtroom and while a 300lb samoian dude was carring me out of the room I called the cop a liar son of a female dog and a thief. I didnt pay the fine and recieved a sepina for court the next week. I went told my case and the cop admited he "might have been mistaked". It was the end of June and he need to give out all his tickets. So he gave out 4 bullshit ones including mine. So all of the ones he gave out were dismissed.

Some depts may require quotas. Ours does not. I won't ever stop a car that I think ran a red light. I will only stop those I KNOW ran a red light. I'm sure there are thousands of people all over the country who have dealt with false accusations.
One day on Glendale Ave. Right passed Monteray he was driving and the guy infront of him ALSO HAD BLUE LIGHTS. The cop sitting in a parking lot on his bike let the white guy infront of him go but pulled over my cousin and me. WHY because the amount of rasicm on Glendale against the Armenian population is ridiculously high. We are the MAJORITY we are the ones that made Glendale this thriving city that it is. 74% of all small busnesses in Glendale are Armenian owned. Our City council is made up of 4 out of 7 Armenians. Yet the white people cant stand to see any oen do better than them.
Blue lights are illegal PERIOD. Don't complain that someone else wasn't stopped, but you were. I have had SOOOOOO many people on traffic stops say, "Well, you didn't stop the guy in front of me for speeding too!" Or, they will say, "what about him?!?! He's breaking the law! Why don't you get him!!" My answer does not change. I can only stop one at a time. "and right now, I'm dealing with you."
So Tag until you been to a city and lived among its corruption all you life you cant begin to understand anything about it.
Now my rant is over.

And I mean none of this offensively. Well unless your a Glendale cop then pretty much screw you.
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It has to do with the front plate. If they're going to put a camera behind you too, what is the point of requiring a front Plate. It doesnt make sense to me.
The purpose of a front plate is so we can run your vehicle on our MDT's when you are coming at us in the opposite direction. This way, if we have a bank robbery, a burglary, etc...criminal activity, we can read either plate...front or back....to determine if that vehicle would be a suspect vehicle or not. Front plates ARE important for us to recognize.
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I don't mind the intersection cameras, but the front looks so much cleaner and more menacing without the plate. Let us stick it in the windshield so the camera takes a picture with the plate right next to our face. I don't run red lights ever so it doesn't phase me, but I'd rather stick it in the windshield so the front stays clean.
I remember that case where the plate was in the windshield and the guy got the ticket. Supposedly you can put that plate in the front window. Remember, if the officer can't see it, you could very well get a ticket.
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Well it's perfectly legal to put the tag in the windshield, so no worries.
Check your state laws first.
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I always evade those cameras, My trick is I use some type of oily/Glossy spray on my plates and when the camera shoots a flash to take a picture, the plate is so glossy on film you see nothing but a glare, cops can't say shit cause its looks like a regular plate, just brand new, paid $20 for the can out of a car & driver mag, got flashed over 20 times over the period and no tickets
That glossy spray you speak of, I'm pretty darn sure, is illegal. If an officer sees it, you can expect a hefty fine. 20 times, huh? That's something to brag about. Sure...you're insurance company sees you on here bragging like that and BAM!!! There goes that awesome insurance on the SRT8 since "our client likes to run red lights."
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Or...and here's a wild thought.....
Don't run red lights? If you don't do anything wrong then they can't do anything to you. Why all the effort to "beat" them?
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OK I think we need to relax. This was never meant to escalate into a full blown battle. WOW I just thought us in Cali didnt want front plates and a petition does help. Its worked before for Glendale. So I have faith.
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Hey....I'm with ya on the front plates. I don't like them either. Ask around, others know that too. I was more concerned about the whole "obey traffic laws" bit. But having a front plate DOES increase the chance dramatically of getting your stolen vehicle back.

And I'm not trying to battle at all. I blew it up and put it in red so my responses were easier to read. No disrespect to you....or anyone else in this thread for that matter.
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