5th gen vs 4th gen - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

JCO2185 · 01-04-2010, 10:30 PM

2LT/RS Only had it for about a month now, and so far, ive had 3 4th gens try and race me. Ill just be driving down the highway and they seem to come find me out of nowhere, pull up next to me, and want to race. I just ignore them.

This is my first camaro, so im not sure how mine would fare up against 4th gens. whats the differences in power?

76z28 · 01-04-2010, 10:42 PM

if its a v6 4th gen you will smoke them
but if its a ss or z28 they will eat you alive
the ss will literally be door to door with the new ss
the z28 not so sure but the z28 will out run the v6

Stew · 01-05-2010, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 76z28

if its a v6 4th gen you will smoke them
but if its a ss or z28 they will eat you alive
the ss will literally be door to door with the new ss
the z28 not so sure but the z28 will out run the v6

Z28 is basically as quick as the SS in the 4th gens, so take on the V6s, but leave those 2 alone.

*DGthe3* · 01-05-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JCO2185

2LT/RS Only had it for about a month now, and so far, ive had 3 4th gens try and race me. Ill just be driving down the highway and they seem to come find me out of nowhere, pull up next to me, and want to race. I just ignore them.

This is my first camaro, so im not sure how mine would fare up against 4th gens. whats the differences in power?

the 5th gen has a huge power advantage, but the problem is power to weight ratio, its hundreds of pounds heavier. Plus a lot of 4th gens have at least some light mods on them making them the equal of the new ones. Stock for stock though a 5th gen should edge out the old ones but not by much.

FI4T0MCAT · 01-05-2010, 10:33 AM

My 4th gen SS and 5th gen SS have about the same mods on them, and my 4th gen will actually beat my 5th gen. The 5th gen is just heavy.

KarFan · 01-05-2010, 12:38 PM

Might be a good idea to refrain from racing on public roads especially if you don't know the competition.

Brokinarrow · 01-05-2010, 01:12 PM

They are more than likely just excited to see a new Camaro on the roads and want to see/hear that engine move

Just drop the peddle for a lil bit and give them a show

jayC1974 · 01-05-2010, 03:03 PM

So is this thread telling me my 4th GEN ss, with power programmer, Borla cat back exhaust, K&N filter, will actually out run my completely 5th Gen stock 1ss? The red one is for sale by the way.

jcamere94z28 · 01-05-2010, 03:20 PM

why don't you go to a track with a friend that you trust and can drive.. and race your own 5th gen vs your 4th gen...?

the upcoming · 01-05-2010, 03:44 PM

yah see how they do and itll answer every 1s questions

0-60n4.6 · 01-05-2010, 05:15 PM

I would like to know this as well...i would really like to race one myself....my 06 stang has CAI,Tune,UDP's,full exhaust and 390's....it would be a good run

SGOS252382 · 01-05-2010, 05:40 PM

It all depends on who you talk to. I've seen several races (stock vs stock) and the 2010 Camaro SS pulls on the 4th generation Z28 on the top end everytime. I also owned an LS1 z28s (4th gen). It was slower than my 2010 Camaro based on track times (mod vs mod).

The V6 2010 Camaro is no match from a 4th generation Z28 (LS1). It would make a decent match against a 3rd generation Z28 (LT1). Most stock LT1 z28s run in the 14s. The problem is most of the stock LT1's run like crap now.

The V6 2010 Camaro is much faster than all the previous V6 Camaros.

JHart · 01-05-2010, 11:27 PM

an ls1 car, with intake/headers/full exhaust/tune, i've ran when i first got my 1ss. had 1/4 to a 1/2 car on him at 95 slowly pullin harder and harder on him. first and second, dead friggin even.

1bad65 · 01-06-2010, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 0-60n4.6

I would like to know this as well...i would really like to race one myself....my 06 stang has CAI,Tune,UDP's,full exhaust and 390's....it would be a good run

I've ran two 4th Gen SS Camaros and pulled on both of them. My car is similar to yours, it has a CAI/tune and full exhaust. I do have the 3:31s though. I've not ran a 5th Gen SS yet.

0-60n4.6 · 01-06-2010, 09:30 AM

that had to have been an auto...a 6 speed ss with those mods should be in the mid 12 range in the 1/4....ive only seen 4 2010 SS's run the 1/4 and 2 of them where fully forged with N02 and in the low 11's the other two were stock and where in the mid 13's but there TS was in the 106 range

KarFan · 01-06-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SGOS252382

It all depends on who you talk to. I've seen several races (stock vs stock) and the 2010 Camaro SS pulls on the 4th generation Z28 on the top end everytime. I also owned an LS1 z28s (4th gen). It was slower than my 2010 Camaro based on track times (mod vs mod).

The V6 2010 Camaro is no match from a 4th generation Z28 (LS1). It would make a decent match against a 3rd generation Z28 (LT1). Most stock LT1 z28s run in the 14s. The problem is most of the stock LT1's run like crap now.

The V6 2010 Camaro is much faster than all the previous V6 Camaros.

All good info except the 3rd Gen 1982 to 1992 Camaro never came with the LT1. Factory stock LT1 4th Gens from 1993 to 1997 have the capability to easily break 14 sec ET's.

REEFBLUE93 · 01-07-2010, 02:06 PM

I agree with the others that said to steer clear of the Z28's and 4th gen SS's with a 5th gen V6. You'll get smoked every time in every type of race unless you get a really good power adder. Almost all 4th gens, whether they be LT or LS equipped, are no longer going to be stock. I drive a 17 yr old Mustang and there are still a lot of people that are naive enough to believe it is stock save for some exhaust.

*CamaroSpike23* · 01-07-2010, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGOS252382

It all depends on who you talk to. I've seen several races (stock vs stock) and the 2010 Camaro SS pulls on the 4th generation Z28 on the top end everytime. I also owned an LS1 z28s (4th gen). It was slower than my 2010 Camaro based on track times (mod vs mod).

The V6 2010 Camaro is no match from a 4th generation Z28 (LS1). It would make a decent match against a 3rd generation Z28 (LT1). Most stock LT1 z28s run in the 14s. The problem is most of the stock LT1's run like crap now.

LT1 Z28s and SS's are 4th gens.

3rd gen Camaros had either a TPI or a TBI for a V8 option. and they ran like crap from day one.

and unless you've got a 5th gen that can run 11's for less than $10k, my 4th gen, 94Z with an LT1 has got you beat.

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Originally Posted by REEFBLUE93

I agree with the others that said to steer clear of the Z28's and 4th gen SS's with a 5th gen V6. You'll get smoked every time in every type of race unless you get a really good power adder. Almost all 4th gens, whether they be LT or LS equipped, are no longer going to be stock. I drive a 17 yr old Mustang and there are still a lot of people that are naive enough to believe it is stock save for some exhaust.

I've seen some stock 4th gens around down here, most of them are v6's tho.

djm96z28 · 01-07-2010, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGOS252382

It all depends on who you talk to. I've seen several races (stock vs stock) and the 2010 Camaro SS pulls on the 4th generation Z28 on the top end everytime. I also owned an LS1 z28s (4th gen). It was slower than my 2010 Camaro based on track times (mod vs mod).

The V6 2010 Camaro is no match from a 4th generation Z28 (LS1). It would make a decent match against a 3rd generation Z28 (LT1). Most stock LT1 z28s run in the 14s. The problem is most of the stock LT1's run like crap now.

The V6 2010 Camaro is much faster than all the previous V6 Camaros.

Mine doesn't.

rodimus prime · 01-07-2010, 04:43 PM

Third gen tpi motors hit 14s pretty easy.

sweaver · 01-07-2010, 09:08 PM

I raced my 98 WS6 T/A Against my '10 Camaro 2ss when I first got it, And my T/A was faster, not by much, But it was faster,
After the camaro took a trip to Livernois, That T/A don't stand a chance!

0-60n4.6 · 01-07-2010, 09:11 PM

was your WS6 Stock?

sweaver · 01-07-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 0-60n4.6

was your WS6 Stock?

Just flowmasters for sound, Thats it...

0-60n4.6 · 01-07-2010, 11:08 PM

hmmmm this is very interesting...i will say this though...it is hit or miss with the LS1's now a days i mean 02 was the latest so they are getting old but the ones that have been taken care of are still a terror on the street...im really wanting to get a race with a new SS i may go hunt one down in DFW this weekend and get some vid to post

azvren · 01-07-2010, 11:49 PM

I don't know if people here cant drive but i've beaten plenty of bolted ls1 camaros and trans am's. I murder stock ones. All I have is Roto fab cai muff delete and magnaflow x pipe. Either people here cant drive or my SS is a factory freak.

01-04-2010, 10:30 PM	#1
JCO2185 John Drives: 2010 2LT/RS Summit White Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 650	5th gen vs 4th gen 2LT/RS Only had it for about a month now, and so far, ive had 3 4th gens try and race me. Ill just be driving down the highway and they seem to come find me out of nowhere, pull up next to me, and want to race. I just ignore them. This is my first camaro, so im not sure how mine would fare up against 4th gens. whats the differences in power?

01-05-2010, 10:33 AM	#5
FI4T0MCAT Drives: 1969 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 465	My 4th gen SS and 5th gen SS have about the same mods on them, and my 4th gen will actually beat my 5th gen. The 5th gen is just heavy. __________________

01-05-2010, 01:12 PM	#7
Brokinarrow Drives: 1984 Honda Nighthawk 700s Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Indianola, IA Posts: 5,340 View My Garage	They are more than likely just excited to see a new Camaro on the roads and want to see/hear that engine move Just drop the peddle for a lil bit and give them a show __________________

01-05-2010, 03:03 PM	#8
jayC1974 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1ss aqua blue Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: sherwood AR Posts: 44	So is this thread telling me my 4th GEN ss, with power programmer, Borla cat back exhaust, K&N filter, will actually out run my completely 5th Gen stock 1ss? The red one is for sale by the way. Attached Images

01-05-2010, 05:15 PM	#11
0-60n4.6 Drives: 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sherman, TX Posts: 107	I would like to know this as well...i would really like to race one myself....my 06 stang has CAI,Tune,UDP's,full exhaust and 390's....it would be a good run __________________ JLT CAI, brenspeed tune, steeda UDP, pypes LT headers, 1/8 in 8.3 @ 87 1/4 in 12.7 @ 108

01-04-2010, 10:42 PM	#2
76z28 Drives: 1976 camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: bakersfield Posts: 473	if its a v6 4th gen you will smoke them but if its a ss or z28 they will eat you alive the ss will literally be door to door with the new ss the z28 not so sure but the z28 will out run the v6

01-05-2010, 12:38 PM	#6
KarFan Drives: CARS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Posts: 451	Might be a good idea to refrain from racing on public roads especially if you don't know the competition.

01-05-2010, 03:20 PM	#9
jcamere94z28 Drives: None Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,311	why don't you go to a track with a friend that you trust and can drive.. and race your own 5th gen vs your 4th gen...?

01-05-2010, 03:44 PM	#10
the upcoming Drives: 10'2SS/RS,94'toyoda,02'vette Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette louisiana Posts: 852 View My Garage	yah see how they do and itll answer every 1s questions

01-05-2010, 05:40 PM	#12
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,004	It all depends on who you talk to. I've seen several races (stock vs stock) and the 2010 Camaro SS pulls on the 4th generation Z28 on the top end everytime. I also owned an LS1 z28s (4th gen). It was slower than my 2010 Camaro based on track times (mod vs mod). The V6 2010 Camaro is no match from a 4th generation Z28 (LS1). It would make a decent match against a 3rd generation Z28 (LT1). Most stock LT1 z28s run in the 14s. The problem is most of the stock LT1's run like crap now. The V6 2010 Camaro is much faster than all the previous V6 Camaros. __________________

01-05-2010, 11:27 PM	#13
JHart I haz camaro again :) Drives: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 1SS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Union, South Carolina Posts: 641	an ls1 car, with intake/headers/full exhaust/tune, i've ran when i first got my 1ss. had 1/4 to a 1/2 car on him at 95 slowly pullin harder and harder on him. first and second, dead friggin even. __________________ 2010 Camaro 1SS(back in a camaro again, yessssss!) 2010 silverado z71 ccsb(sold, old dd) 2010 camaro1ss(sold, missed, will have another someday)

01-06-2010, 09:30 AM	#15
0-60n4.6 Drives: 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sherman, TX Posts: 107	that had to have been an auto...a 6 speed ss with those mods should be in the mid 12 range in the 1/4....ive only seen 4 2010 SS's run the 1/4 and 2 of them where fully forged with N02 and in the low 11's the other two were stock and where in the mid 13's but there TS was in the 106 range __________________ JLT CAI, brenspeed tune, steeda UDP, pypes LT headers, 1/8 in 8.3 @ 87 1/4 in 12.7 @ 108

01-07-2010, 02:06 PM	#17
REEFBLUE93 Account Suspended Drives: 1993 Rustang Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 943	I agree with the others that said to steer clear of the Z28's and 4th gen SS's with a 5th gen V6. You'll get smoked every time in every type of race unless you get a really good power adder. Almost all 4th gens, whether they be LT or LS equipped, are no longer going to be stock. I drive a 17 yr old Mustang and there are still a lot of people that are naive enough to believe it is stock save for some exhaust.

01-07-2010, 04:43 PM	#20
rodimus prime Account Suspended Drives: Cargo van. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Metal Metal Land Posts: 1,248	Third gen tpi motors hit 14s pretty easy.

01-07-2010, 09:08 PM	#21
sweaver Drives: 10' CAMARO SS2 LIVERNOIS BUILT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Toledo OH Posts: 223	I raced my 98 WS6 T/A Against my '10 Camaro 2ss when I first got it, And my T/A was faster, not by much, But it was faster, After the camaro took a trip to Livernois, That T/A don't stand a chance!

01-07-2010, 09:11 PM	#22
0-60n4.6 Drives: 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sherman, TX Posts: 107	was your WS6 Stock? __________________ JLT CAI, brenspeed tune, steeda UDP, pypes LT headers, 1/8 in 8.3 @ 87 1/4 in 12.7 @ 108

01-07-2010, 11:08 PM	#24
0-60n4.6 Drives: 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sherman, TX Posts: 107	hmmmm this is very interesting...i will say this though...it is hit or miss with the LS1's now a days i mean 02 was the latest so they are getting old but the ones that have been taken care of are still a terror on the street...im really wanting to get a race with a new SS i may go hunt one down in DFW this weekend and get some vid to post __________________ JLT CAI, brenspeed tune, steeda UDP, pypes LT headers, 1/8 in 8.3 @ 87 1/4 in 12.7 @ 108

01-07-2010, 11:49 PM	#25
azvren Drives: Camaro 2SS RS IBM Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Odessa, Tx Posts: 236	I don't know if people here cant drive but i've beaten plenty of bolted ls1 camaros and trans am's. I murder stock ones. All I have is Roto fab cai muff delete and magnaflow x pipe. Either people here cant drive or my SS is a factory freak.

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