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Old 01-07-2010, 05:05 PM   #1
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cost to install a Maggie?

Ok, question, living up here in the NW USA we have limited shop choices, what is the cost to install a maggie kit say from like SLP or other venders?

Say I buy a kit, have it sitting in the trunk, drive car or ship to you, you swap out and I drive /ship back. Just cost to install and make it turn key?

Or can someone with good knowledge install one of these kits? with the hand held tuner and make it right? or am I asking for problems?

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Call Lingenfelter Performance Engineering in Decatur Indiana they will be able to help. People from all over ship cars to them to install Superchargers. They are also one of the best in the business.
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Call Lingenfelter Performance Engineering in Decatur Indiana they will be able to help. People from all over ship cars to them to install Superchargers. They are also one of the best in the business.
Man, you did a nice addition to the car. Why 10 rib? and what do you mean 10/14 rib?
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You gonna get raped at lingenfelter.


Do you already have the supercharger?
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Old 01-07-2010, 05:23 PM   #5
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im planning on doing mine.. and im no "certified mechanic". What you should do is look over these instructions and see if you have the tools and the know how to get it done.

http://www.magnusonproducts.com/pdf/...ro_LS3_L99.pdf


Install would rang from $1000 - $1500 in Ca. Sending your car out and having it shipped is REDICULOUS.
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I road tripped and brought my car home from LPE. I don't see how having a great company like LPE to install their package for a couple thousand extra over parts is bad? I don't ever have to get in my car and wonder if it is tuned right. It is a peace of mind.
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Honestly it will vary by shop.
I have been offering free installs with forced induction kits if you pay retail price....

But other shops I have spoken with charge about 750 to install. You are talking about 2 days of labor to be up and running including a full tune.
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I road tripped and brought my car home from LPE. I don't see how having a great company like LPE to install their package for a couple thousand extra over parts is bad? I don't ever have to get in my car and wonder if it is tuned right. It is a peace of mind.
WOW you paid a couple thousand over parts for a manifold swap.
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supercharger

yes I have a SLP kit, trying to make a ZL575 without shipping car across the country to do it. My car only has 82 miles on it? so not sur it is in my best interest to try? but the instructions seem pretty straight forward

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Man, you did a nice addition to the car. Why 10 rib? and what do you mean 10/14 rib?
Thanks, I went with the 10 rib front and the 14 rib rear drive for the supercharger. We built up the engine with lots of goodies. Then to achieve the boost levels and hp that I have requested we must use a much larger belt drive to prevent belt slippage. See the attached pics. I personally believe that every penny that I spent was money well spent with LPE. You get what you pay for. I like the experience that LPE has with building engines.
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yes I have a SLP kit, trying to make a ZL575 without shipping car across the country to do it. My car only has 82 miles on it? so not sur it is in my best interest to try? but the instructions seem pretty straight forward

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The instructions always make it sound easy. I personally don't trust myself to work on things like this it's a2010 Camaro Engine. I figured it like this, I could probably paint my own house right but I surely coudn't do it as good as a professional.
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The instructions always make it sound easy. I personally don't trust myself to work on things like this it's a2010 Camaro Engine. I figured it like this, I could probably paint my own house right but I surely coudn't do it as good as a professional.
The only difference is the parts only go on one way. I was nervous the first time I swapped my ls1 intake for an ls6, but after swaping motor after motor and trans after trans after trans its easy. It just fear of messing up the first time. Usually you mess up when your relaxed and think you know what your doing and you forget to tighten shit. But when your nervous you check things like 4 times.
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WOW you paid a couple thousand over parts for a manifold swap.
No - I paid a little bit more to have them install the s/c, fuel injectors, Borla Cat Back exhaust, Pedders Coilovers, KB Boost a pump, CAI, and professional dyno tune - oh yeah and the 3yr/36k warranty on the engine and s/c.

It seems well worth it to me. Did you give yourself a warranty and dyno tune it yourself too?? I don't have a dyno laying around and the shops around here I wouldn't trust with my bicycle....
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You gonna get raped at lingenfelter.


Do you already have the supercharger?
Why do you feel this way?

Feel free to contact me by email, by phone or PM to validate your post. It is easy to figure the total cost involved with our shop rate, the time and parts involved to build a car as we would build it, and back it with our warranty. I encourage you to inform yourself before bashing our name. Just a manifold swap could not be further from the truth. There is the right way to do it, and then over a hundred wrong ways to do it. We don't just slap it on, throw in the magnuson cal and ship it. We spend time with each individual car, and make sure its 100% right in every aspect before they go home. Seems that a lot of people are eager to post and highlight their accomplishments, and "great price points", but they sure don't like to share their failures when things go wrong, and stand behind them.
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Well said Jeff!!! You will get quality work at Lingenfelter!!!!
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Why do you feel this way?

Feel free to contact me by email, by phone or PM to validate your post. It is easy to figure the total cost involved with our shop rate, the time and parts involved to build a car as we would build it, and back it with our warranty. I encourage you to inform yourself before bashing our name. Just a manifold swap could not be further from the truth. There is the right way to do it, and then over a hundred wrong ways to do it. We don't just slap it on, throw in the magnuson cal and ship it. We spend time with each individual car, and make sure its 100% right in every aspect before they go home. Seems that a lot of people are eager to post and highlight their accomplishments, and "great price points", but they sure don't like to share their failures when things go wrong, and stand behind them.
Jeff, I'm happy to see you come in and point out the obvious. At least for John's name sake! :-)

Although, many people know who LPE is, but for new clients, it's best to point out what LPE stands for!
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:14 AM   #17
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Thanks, I went with the 10 rib front and the 14 rib rear drive for the supercharger. We built up the engine with lots of goodies. Then to achieve the boost levels and hp that I have requested we must use a much larger belt drive to prevent belt slippage. See the attached pics. I personally believe that every penny that I spent was money well spent with LPE. You get what you pay for. I like the experience that LPE has with building engines.
Paul, thanks for the info. I have a great appreciation for those people [like yourself] who do things the right way, all the way!
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No - I paid a little bit more to have them install the s/c, fuel injectors, Borla Cat Back exhaust, Pedders Coilovers, KB Boost a pump, CAI, and professional dyno tune - oh yeah and the 3yr/36k warranty on the engine and s/c.

It seems well worth it to me. Did you give yourself a warranty and dyno tune it yourself too?? I don't have a dyno laying around and the shops around here I wouldn't trust with my bicycle....
You made it seem as if you paid 2k for the supercharger/tune install alone.

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Dont get me wrong, I know your guys work is nothing but top notch, but you also pay top notch to have said work done. Ive just read here and there from people that have been to your shop (all happy I might add) and when they were throwing out numbers, I was like damn.

But what are your actual labor rates and tuning costs? Word of mouth has been known to be wrong or exaggerated before.
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You made it seem as if you paid 2k for the supercharger/tune install alone.



Dont get me wrong, I know your guys work is nothing but top notch, but you also pay top notch to have said work done. Ive just read here and there from people that have been to your shop (all happy I might add) and when they were throwing out numbers, I was like damn.

But what are your actual labor rates and tuning costs? Word of mouth has been known to be wrong or exaggerated before.
Our labor rate is $90.00 per hour. This includes install labor of the charger itself, install labor on the additional components that doesn't come with the standard kit, road testing, calibration, dyno testing, and fine tuning. As you can imagine, we go to a further degree of installation on every aspect. Additional plumbing, electrical and fabrication work are all part of the equation.
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Our labor rate is $90.00 per hour. This includes install labor of the charger itself, install labor on the additional components that doesn't come with the standard kit, road testing, calibration, dyno testing hand tuning. As you can imagine, we go to a further degree of installation on every aspect. Additional plumbing, electrical and fabrication work are all part of the equation.
$90 an hour? Thats actually really normal. Hmmm. Good to know.
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Were $1,000 tuned here.
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[QUOTE=rodimus prime;1360274]You made it seem as if you paid 2k for the supercharger/tune install alone.

Sorry for the confusion - I didn't list all the parts that are included in their packages and the extra parts that I had added on when it got there. Believe me, I thought about just adding the s/c and having someone local do it but it came down to reliability and a company standing behind their work. It was all worth it to me........and I will be bringing it back for their 650hp package with the forged internals later on.
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As others have said, if you want a top notch hassle free RELIABLE experience, send your car to Lingenfelter. They are not "learning on the job" & it will be done right when you get it & it will be backed by a 3 yr/ 36 mos warranty if by some slim chance anything were to crop up. Of course if one wants to go the cheap chiseler route & maybe save a few pennies by buying their own parts & taking it to someone who's " learning" as they go along( likely a lot of "errors" in the trial & error process), then one should have at it. Instead of an enjoyable flawless experience, one can get ready for all kinds of "surprises" that can get very expensive rapidly as your eyes get wide & your jaw drops at each phone call of more problems from the " cut rate" tuner.
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I installed my own but it is not for everyone so if your not totally comfortable ripping in to your Camaro take it some where that you and the forum speek highly of!!! I got over 4,000 miles on mine 2,200 with the Magnacharger it is a blast add some headers and CAI you have a beast on your hands I'm a 505rwhp and 510rwtq,Cam and meth to come!!! Keep us in the loop lets us know what you do and some HP and TQ #'s!!! Good Luck!!!
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