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Old 01-09-2010, 04:37 PM   #1
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LG g6x3 or Super Charger Cam!!! Your Thoughts

The Mods will start this coming week!!! My Richmond 4:10 gears have been ordered. I have been racking my brain all weekend because I am torn between going with the LG g6x3 Cam or just doing a smaller cam that will support a Super Charger that I "MIGHT" one day decide to do later down the road. Both cams including install will cost about the same.

Obviously with the smaller Super Charger cam, I will not get as much Horsepower and Wumpity.-Wump sound as I would with the g6x3.

On one hand, I like the coolness factor of an Old School N/A build with that Wumpity-Wump Cam, Heads, Intake etc... and just may decide to stay N/A and if so.... the SC Cam may be a mistake. On the other hand I may decide that I want more HP and the SC route would be an easy option to fill that need w/o killing driveability.

Like I said The Super Charger is a "Maybe One-Day" Mod.
I guess I could always swap Cams if I decide to Super Charge but that would be a costly mistake.

Your opinions are greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-09-2010, 04:43 PM   #2
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The cam swap along with the supporting mods will make just as much power for alot less money. Put a bottle on it and the blower cars will cry a river.....
I like my 530 rwhp N/A car along with the 740 rwhp on a 150 pill.
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:13 PM   #3
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I plan to use a a Comp Cam 238/244 @.050 .610/.610 112 with a procharger
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Look into latemodel racecraft's Slayer cam.
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Old 01-09-2010, 06:47 PM   #5
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I am going with the LG 6 x 3 and 4:1 gear in next month!
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Old 01-09-2010, 07:05 PM   #6
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The cam swap along with the supporting mods will make just as much power for alot less money. Put a bottle on it and the blower cars will cry a river.....
I like my 530 rwhp N/A car along with the 740 rwhp on a 150 pill.
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Got The PM. Thanks For your advice OrangeChevyII.
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I am going with the LG 6 x 3 and 4:1 gear in next month!
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Got The PM. Thanks For your advice OrangeChevyII.
Do I need to work you up a price on a Nitrous kit & Install?
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:36 PM   #8
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Look into latemodel racecraft's Slayer cam.
I am assuming that the "Slayer Cam" is not a blower friendly cam. It Sounds pretty nasty.
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:41 PM   #9
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Do I need to work you up a price on a Nitrous kit & Install?
Decisions....Decisions.......
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:48 PM   #10
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Decisions....Decisions.......
Why dont you just get the Nasty NA cam and when you are ready for the SC, Ill just make you a smoking deal on the cam swap/SC install.

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Old 01-09-2010, 10:16 PM   #11
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I'm gonna sound like a Vengeance sales rep pretty soon...but obviously I'm pretty happy with what they did for me...and tennessee can be a short drive to Atlanta...

OCCASIONALLY I'll think that I will want to go the FI route...but it's ALWAYS when I'm reading the forums and NEVER when I'm behind the wheel.

You asked for opinions...that's mine. And my car sounds just flat out mean.
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The dyno numbers I posted with the spray are also Nano assisted. Nitrous Daves and Nano together make KILLER power and one hell of a stock "bottom end" killer power.

My car's power is still supported by the stock fuel system......even on nitrous. Blower cars cant do that so add another 800 bux to the blower tab for the fuel system upgrade you'll need to make the kind of power Im making with stock stuff.
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Old 01-10-2010, 12:43 AM   #14
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Did I hear correct? You drove up to Rick in KY to drive his SS?



Imagine his car, with 4:10s and 150 shot.
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You guys need to carefully check piston to valve clearance with some of the camshafts your discussing in this thread. Just because a shop sell it doesn't mean it automatically is going to work without any issues. .020" pistons to valve clearance isn't allowable by any stretch of the imagination... When we designed our LS3 camshafts we used our engine dyno to test numerous camshafts side by side. We also took time to check piston to valve clearance on each camshaft to insure what we found work well, also cleared properly....

If guys checked they're install properly you'd be how little clearance some of these camshafts have....
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:31 PM   #16
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I'm gonna sound like a Vengeance sales rep pretty soon...but obviously I'm pretty happy with what they did for me...and tennessee can be a short drive to Atlanta...

OCCASIONALLY I'll think that I will want to go the FI route...but it's ALWAYS when I'm reading the forums and NEVER when I'm behind the wheel.

You asked for opinions...that's mine. And my car sounds just flat out mean.
Hey Mossman,
I have watched your video multiple times. Your car is an inspiration and it sounds totally Bad Ass!!!! Thanks a lot for the advice.

I have heard some really good things about Vengeance but I have already been working with Cincy Speed. They are great guys to deal with.
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:42 PM   #17
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Did I hear correct? You drove up to Rick in KY to drive his SS?



Imagine his car, with 4:10s and 150 shot.
Craig, Rick just tossed me the keys and said "Take her down the Road" Talk about one Super Cool Dude!!!!

His g6x3 cammed SS was a BEAST!!!!!!
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You guys need to carefully check piston to valve clearance with some of the camshafts your discussing in this thread. Just because a shop sell it doesn't mean it automatically is going to work without any issues. .020" pistons to valve clearance isn't allowable by any stretch of the imagination... When we designed our LS3 camshafts we used our engine dyno to test numerous camshafts side by side. We also took time to check piston to valve clearance on each camshaft to insure what we found work well, also cleared properly....

If guys checked they're install properly you'd be how little clearance some of these camshafts have....
Hey Jason.. Thanks for your input. Are you specifically referring to the g6x3 Cam? I was under the impression that a very reputable company like LG Motorsports had spent tons of time researching this particular Cam and that it is a proven Cam for the LS-3 motor. Is there something I have missed here???
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Craig, Rick just tossed me the keys and said "Take her down the Road" Talk about one Super Cool Dude!!!!

His g6x3 cammed SS was a BEAST!!!!!!
Awesome! Rick is planning on coming back to us for a Nitrous Kit install along with 4:10s. His SS is going to be one bad mofo!!

As for yours, just imagine your louder exhaust with the same thump...Do your neighbors like you??

Too bad Matt put his away for the winter. He has the same Headers and CB you are getting installed along with Nitrous. Once the roads are clear, hopefully soon, he will be back for some final tweaks and a few pulls on the roller with the spray! Its going to be sic.
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The Mods will start this coming week!!! My Richmond 4:10 gears have been ordered. I have been racking my brain all weekend because I am torn between going with the LG g6x3 Cam or just doing a smaller cam that will support a Super Charger that I "MIGHT" one day decide to do later down the road. Both cams including install will cost about the same.

Obviously with the smaller Super Charger cam, I will not get as much Horsepower and Wumpity.-Wump sound as I would with the g6x3.

On one hand, I like the coolness factor of an Old School N/A build with that Wumpity-Wump Cam, Heads, Intake etc... and just may decide to stay N/A and if so.... the SC Cam may be a mistake. On the other hand I may decide that I want more HP and the SC route would be an easy option to fill that need w/o killing driveability.

Like I said The Super Charger is a "Maybe One-Day" Mod.
I guess I could always swap Cams if I decide to Super Charge but that would be a costly mistake.

Your opinions are greatly appreciated.
bro i have the same problem as you , decisions decisions its driving me crazy i want 427 or 454 with a huge cam too.
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Darrel we can custom spec a cam that will have that great cam sound sound, good wheel hp and still be S/C friendly if you want. Trust me no voodoo here just solid experience, know how, good parts and very particular tuning strategies.
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Old 01-10-2010, 02:23 PM   #22
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bro i have the same problem as you , decisions decisions its driving me crazy i want 427 or 454 with a huge cam too.
Yes My Man. Talk about Coolness Factor!!!
There is just something about a 427 and Camaro that goes together like Peanut Butter and Jelly!!!

The LS-7 427 option has also crossed my mind.
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Darrel we can custom spec a cam that will have that great cam sound sound, good wheel hp and still be S/C friendly if you want. Trust me no voodoo here just solid experience, know how, good parts and very particular tuning strategies.
Thanks Tracey. I will call you guys tomorrow to further discuss my options

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Why dont you just get the Nasty NA cam and when you are ready for the SC, Ill just make you a smoking deal on the cam swap/SC install.

Thats one "SWEET" offer Craig. That Nasty g6x3 is VERY, VERY tempting!!!! I could always run it and IF I "One Day" decide to go w/ a SC, we could swap out.

You Guys at Cincy Speed Kick ASS!!!!

BTW Craig, My neighbors Ride Harleys, Raise Hell, Shoot Guns and Drink Beer all night!!!!

They are my Kinda Scum Buddy!!!!

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You guys need to carefully check piston to valve clearance with some of the camshafts your discussing in this thread. Just because a shop sell it doesn't mean it automatically is going to work without any issues. .020" pistons to valve clearance isn't allowable by any stretch of the imagination... When we designed our LS3 camshafts we used our engine dyno to test numerous camshafts side by side. We also took time to check piston to valve clearance on each camshaft to insure what we found work well, also cleared properly....

If guys checked they're install properly you'd be how little clearance some of these camshafts have....

you think there will be an issue running a 238/244 @.050 .610/.610 112?
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You guys need to carefully check piston to valve clearance with some of the camshafts your discussing in this thread. Just because a shop sell it doesn't mean it automatically is going to work without any issues. .020" pistons to valve clearance isn't allowable by any stretch of the imagination... When we designed our LS3 camshafts we used our engine dyno to test numerous camshafts side by side. We also took time to check piston to valve clearance on each camshaft to insure what we found work well, also cleared properly....

If guys checked they're install properly you'd be how little clearance some of these camshafts have....
So with that being said, the G6x3 cam is fine.
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