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Old 01-10-2010, 01:16 PM   #1
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DIY RS headlight install in Non RS car Help

Can anyone tell me if they have done this successfully? I am looking to install the RS HID headlights in my non RS car. Pics with the wiring requirements? Please let me know as my lights are almost ready to install.
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:20 PM   #2
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same question, for an LS
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Old 01-10-2010, 03:41 PM   #3
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I made my 2 SS into RS headlight setup from ACC style halo's for my head lights and fog lights and also added HID"S. wasn't too hard to do.
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Old 01-10-2010, 04:35 PM   #4
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Like mine? I did that too, in Amber. Now I would like to have the new CCFL in the RS light. Now I need to understand the wiring requirments for the RS HID lights.

Need someone that is doing this our has attemted. Can anyone help?

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I made my 2 SS into RS headlight setup from ACC style halo's for my head lights and fog lights and also added HID"S. wasn't too hard to do.
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Old 01-10-2010, 04:51 PM   #5
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Does anyone have any info????????
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Old 01-10-2010, 07:31 PM   #6
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:01 PM   #7
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I did the after burners ccfl to my tail lights too. They were a kit also from ACC Style. There instructions were very good and the install very easy.
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Me too, Those are sick......... Looking awesome......
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:46 PM   #9
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I don't think it will be worth the effort. Even if you installed it, you need some sort of code from GM to make it work. There's an user on here who has this problem.
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Old 01-10-2010, 09:14 PM   #10
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Can anyone tell me if they have done this successfully? I am looking to install the RS HID headlights in my non RS car. Pics with the wiring requirements? Please let me know as my lights are almost ready to install.
Ask Mecha he might be able to help you. He installed my HID's and halos on my Non-RS.
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Old 01-10-2010, 09:19 PM   #11
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I have the HID's, Halo's and afterburners already installed, my next project is to get a plug in play RS light transition into the non RS cars......

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Old 01-10-2010, 09:30 PM   #12
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I have the HID's, Halo's and afterburners already installed, my next project is to get a plug in play RS light transition into the non RS cars......

Check out my garage

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SWEET!!! I just checked it out and I want the interior done now. I liked the last pic. Your car looks great no doubt.
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:53 AM   #13
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http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52791

try PMing runt. Looks like he got his wired up and working except for the hgh beams.
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Old 02-22-2010, 01:07 PM   #14
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So I just got back from talking to my dealership about this and they said it's quite possible, but will be expensive. They said that I'd need to buy the following:

2 RS Headlights/Housing components (this is like 10 different parts, but included in one price) - $800 each so $1600 total.
1 wire harness for headlights - $250
2 specific sized bolts, the parts guy didn't say - $4 each
BMI flash (whatever that is)
Tons of labor at $80 an hour.

I also asked what if I buy all this stuff from them and it doesn't work. They said that they would contact GM and figure it out till it does. In theory it should work out fine since people will be in accidents and these parts will need to be replaced eventually.

Hope this helps. I'm considering it but it's an expensive add on. I wish I would've got the RS package with it, but it was my last chance to get the exact car I wanted (minus the RS package) before they put those dumb sensors on the back of the car.
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Old 04-19-2010, 12:51 AM   #15
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Bump - I'm not the O.P., but I'm thinking about doing this myself. I skimped on the RS because I wanted to save some cash. But the biggest motivator for me doing this upgrade isn't the "cool look", it's that I can't see shit with stock headlights. The ****ing beam is barely wider than the car! It's horrible. So I figure if I can find a deal on some RS lights, I'll get the ability to see at night :-) and also the cool look of RS lights. But I have little experience working on cars. I'm pretty handy generally speaking though. Here's the info I'm looking for:

1) How do you take the light units out to begin with? I actually just found a youtube link before posting to this thread... but the video doesn't actually SHOW very much. A guy sticks his hand into a dark wheel well and that's supposed to show me how to do it...

2) Wiring. First I hear that this mod won't work because the computer will think something's wrong. Then I hear you can get a wiring harness to make it work? Where do you get these harnesses?
Is this just like the LED hacks on other cars? Where they draw so little power, the car thinks a bulb is out? If so, would it be better to just get the car's computer flashed rather than use the harness, because that means the harness would just have inline resistors to "waste" the extra power, so the xenons draw as much as the halogens. (or this whole thing could be wrong).

2a) Are ballast's included in the headlights themselves on the RS lights? Or are they a separate piece that I'd need to get?

3) Alignment? Back in the day headlights used to have alignment screws to get the beams right. Is this still the case? Or are these things made with enough precision that everything is lined up out of the box? If you do need to align them... how would you go about doing that?
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Old 04-23-2010, 01:26 AM   #16
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Bump - I'm not the O.P., but I'm thinking about doing this myself. I skimped on the RS because I wanted to save some cash. But the biggest motivator for me doing this upgrade isn't the "cool look", it's that I can't see shit with stock headlights. The ****ing beam is barely wider than the car! It's horrible. So I figure if I can find a deal on some RS lights, I'll get the ability to see at night :-) and also the cool look of RS lights. But I have little experience working on cars. I'm pretty handy generally speaking though. Here's the info I'm looking for:

1) How do you take the light units out to begin with? I actually just found a youtube link before posting to this thread... but the video doesn't actually SHOW very much. A guy sticks his hand into a dark wheel well and that's supposed to show me how to do it...
if you saw the video of the green camaro, then youre right on track, when you look in to the wheel well you will see 3 screws that will need to come out, plus all others that are described in the video


2) Wiring. First I hear that this mod won't work because the computer will think something's wrong. Then I hear you can get a wiring harness to make it work? Where do you get these harnesses?
Is this just like the LED hacks on other cars? Where they draw so little power, the car thinks a bulb is out? If so, would it be better to just get the car's computer flashed rather than use the harness, because that means the harness would just have inline resistors to "waste" the extra power, so the xenons draw as much as the halogens. (or this whole thing could be wrong).

You can get the wiring harness from AAC, but i higly recomend that you get OEM plugs they are like 40 bucs each. becuase AAC will only provide you with single connections that you will need to insert individually in to the pins, i personally did not liked that at all.
also i did not had any issues with the camaro's computer, you do not need to reflash the ECU


2a) Are ballast's included in the headlights themselves on the RS lights? Or are they a separate piece that I'd need to get?

Ballast should be included with the headlights, you can look for them they are round and are screwed to the bottom of the headlight
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3) Alignment? Back in the day headlights used to have alignment screws to get the beams right. Is this still the case? Or are these things made with enough precision that everything is lined up out of the box? If you do need to align them... how would you go about doing that?
I didnt had to re-align them, but they do have an alignment screw if you want to mess with it


Hope this info helps you, P.M. any other questions you have
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:33 AM   #17
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Very good answer Christian Moto
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:26 PM   #18
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To install rs lights (halo hid and fog) I need the

1.Bulbs
2.Housing
3.Some kind of special wire for the ECU

is this correct? Nothing needs to be done to the body right?
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:27 PM   #19
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Bulbs and housing are one unit. At least that's how I got mine. Still trying to find a working wiring harness though.
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You are right, but just to be clear you need the HID complete housing not just the bulbs.

And you will need to buy the Harness, AAC sells them and i believe some one else sells them.

And for the fogs, (If you have the LS) you will need the housing and you will need to cable it to a switch, because you're LS will not have the wiring, and the ECU will not be programed to just plug it in.
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Bulbs and housing are one unit. At least that's how I got mine. Still trying to find a working wiring harness though.
Did you tried AAC's wiring harness, i used that and it worked fine.
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:38 PM   #22
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Yeah I did. It didn't work, had wrong connectors, missing connectors. They were going to call me back and they never did. And then one of their people told me I read the wiring diagram wrong, because the diagram has the headlight plugs listed in reverse order. So I ended up returning the harness. Then the other guy that sells them, otto something, never responds to messages. Now he apparently has PMs turned off on this forum. And nowhere in previous PMs or on any of his threads I've seen, has he ever given a link of where to buy his mythical harnesses. His website is just a home page and nothing else. So these brand new RS headlights have been sitting in a box in my house for maybe two months now :( I'm on the fence about wether I should just resell them, or holding out for another company to come up with a product.
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Oh men, Sorry to hear that. I bet it must be very frustrating.
Maybe i can help you out with the harness., What exactly happened that it did not worked? the wiring diagram can be confusing (ive been there), but im sure we can figure it out.
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AAC doesn't make the harness anymore, from what i've found out... which is a damn shame, because I don't know if ottobody does either. Like l008 said, ottobody's site is just a site, and nothing else. They promote their T/A conversion, and that's about it. I even wanted to buy their used set of halo's in a listing they had here, but have yet to see any responses in that thread...

Surely, there's an easy way to make a retrofit harness and make it 100% totally plug & play with no modifications whatsoever. it's all just wiring, right?
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Wow, Its a shame that AAC does not make the harness any more, it had a lot of potential, all it needed was to include the OEM harness (35 bucs each from GMparts direct), and this would have been a true plug and play harness.
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