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Old 08-15-2008, 07:11 PM   #26
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GM will be coming out with a Bumblebee package from what I've been told here at work. If you were going to do it yoursself, you would have to charge at least 4-5K to do a nice job and make it worth your while (profit wise).
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Old 08-15-2008, 07:32 PM   #27
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We have no immediate plans to offer a Bumblebee Package --

There will be three cars specially painted (not at the plant) to fulfill the Transformers Contest.

Ladies and Gentlemen -- the cost of the Bumblebee paint alone approaches what some of you would be willing to pay....that does not include any prep or the painting itself -- or cleanup --
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Old 08-15-2008, 07:37 PM   #28
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We have no immediate plans to offer a Bumblebee Package --

There will be three cars specially painted (not at the plant) to fulfill the Transformers Contest.

Ladies and Gentlemen -- the cost of the Bumblebee paint alone approaches what some of you would be willing to pay....that does not include any prep or the painting itself -- or cleanup --
That's bad news I guess, but opens the door for others to offer it. You guys could have probably gotten a discount from Valspar if you bought the paint in bulk purhaps and passed the savings along to those willing to pay the extra fee..
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Old 08-16-2008, 12:27 AM   #29
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We have no immediate plans to offer a Bumblebee Package --

There will be three cars specially painted (not at the plant) to fulfill the Transformers Contest.

Ladies and Gentlemen -- the cost of the Bumblebee paint alone approaches what some of you would be willing to pay....that does not include any prep or the painting itself -- or cleanup --
Always did love the crypticesqueness that is fbodfather. But this is really a good non cryptic message without the need to decypher. He's right it is expensive to paint that. Don't worry super, very open ended remark. It's not squashing the possibility of offering the package. It's one of those can't confirm nor deny remarks. Just not in the works. The imediate Goal of GM is to have a very successful launch of the Camaro. Marketing has to take it's course. A year after there should be some extra options. Might be a while but they have to see how many people will actually want that paint scheme in order to put it into production. There's not a large percentage of cars that are specially ordered. So just be patient... Hey I want a Bumblebee paint job too.

I'd be willing to pay. I kinda figured there would be a huge cost. I've got my dicast to match the color with. It seems to be the right color. But I'll be repainting my Camaro anyway. I think I'll match the color as close as I can. Then I'll paint on a very dark metalic grey, like a dark gun metal instead of black just to give it a gotta-be-me type look for the stripes.
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A reverse color combo on a black Camaro would look really cool....I feel a photoshop coming on!
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Old 08-16-2008, 06:56 PM   #31
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We have no immediate plans to offer a Bumblebee Package --

There will be three cars specially painted (not at the plant) to fulfill the Transformers Contest.

Ladies and Gentlemen -- the cost of the Bumblebee paint alone approaches what some of you would be willing to pay....that does not include any prep or the painting itself -- or cleanup --
I'm confused then. We've seen comments from CamaroScotty that there is a Bumblebee edition coming out and that this was announced in the information received 07/21. Am I missing something here?
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Old 08-16-2008, 07:12 PM   #32
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We have no immediate plans to offer a Bumblebee Package --

There will be three cars specially painted (not at the plant) to fulfill the Transformers Contest.

Ladies and Gentlemen -- the cost of the Bumblebee paint alone approaches what some of you would be willing to pay....that does not include any prep or the painting itself -- or cleanup --
Ya im sure the paint alone would be in the 3 to 4k range...then disassemble/prep/paint/color sand/touch-up/clear coat('s)/reassemble...Labor/ect.ect

This is a 8k to 10k paint job if done correctly...And neither you nor I would want anything than the best for my / your Camaro!!!
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Old 08-16-2008, 07:19 PM   #33
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wareagle900: Will there be any other color choices? bumblebee perhaps?
JohnFitzpatrick: We have 10 colors available for the Camaro. Go to Chevy.com/Camaro under "gallery" to view available colors. Regarding Bumblebee, stay tuned...
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Ya im sure the paint alone would be in the 3 to 4k range...then disassemble/prep/paint/color sand/touch-up/clear coat('s)/reassemble...Labor/ect.ect

This is a 8k to 10k paint job if done correctly...And neither you nor I would want anything than the best for my / your Camaro!!!
I posted a solution to this in another thread.. GM advertises a limited time package (3 months) on TV ads that must be placed thru the dealers just like they do with any number of limited edition lines. Let's say the price of paint alone for each is $3-$4 thousand, then if GM in a three month period gets 40,000 or more orders, they stop allowing newer orders and they buy that amount of paint and add it to a particular line and complete the orders. This way painting the car costs no more than any other regular paint clear-coat. The extra cost would be in painting the stripe separately which they could forgo by using black vinyl and have the dealer install it. That way if the buyer wants to get the stripes painted, they get someone else to do it or they have to get the vinyl which the dealer will charge for the installation if you choose it. This is a win win situation for GM as they get a limited run and they get free advertising as more Bumblebee's are on the road with the accurate films color..

Remember that already included in the cost of the car is a paint job and polishing from factory so why pay for it twice along with a disassembly of the car. (that's where the costs skyrockets to $10,000). If GM does it, it is just the cost of the paint (which as we know runs in the $3 -$4K range and GM could get a discount buying in bulk from Valspar..) in other words if they choose to use this method I describe above and do get lots of orders which I think they most definitely will, it is very doable and GM comes out winning in the end...
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I posted a solution to this in another thread.. GM advertises a limited time package (3 months) on TV ads that must be placed thru the dealers just like they do with any number of limited edition lines. Let's say the price of paint alone for each is $3-$4 thousand, then if GM in a three month period gets 40,000 or more orders, they stop allowing newer orders and they buy that amount of paint and add it to a particular line and complete the orders. This way painting the car costs no more than any other regular paint clear-coat. The extra cost would be in painting the stripe separately which they could forgo by using black vinyl and have the dealer install it. That way if the buyer wants to get the stripes painted, they get someone else to do it or they have to get the vinyl which the dealer will charge for the installation if you choose it. This is a win win situation for GM as they get a limited run and they get free advertising as more Bumblebee's are on the road with the accurate films color..

Remember that already included in the cost of the car is a paint job and polishing from factory so why pay for it twice along with a disassembly of the car. (that's where the costs skyrockets to $10,000). If GM does it, it is just the cost of the paint (which as we know runs in the $3 -$4K range and GM could get a discount buying in bulk from Valspar..) in other words if they choose to use this method I describe above and do get lots of orders which I think they most definitely will, it is very doable and GM comes out winning in the end...
I totally agree with you...if its done from the MFG, and in limited size of say 10k to 15k units a year...it would be half the price.

But if you want an after market (Quality) paint job, thats custom (not original color), your going to pay thru the nose!.....PERIOD!!!!
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I totally agree with you...if its done from the MFG, and in limited size of say 10k to 15k units a year...it would be half the price.

But if you want an after market (Quality) paint job, thats custom (not original color), your going to pay thru the nose!.....PERIOD!!!!
It doesn't even have to be limited in size. They could allow dealers to take a certain amount of orders and have a goal to reach in numbers. Once that is reached, they stop allowing new orders to take place and they can figure out a deal with Valspar on getting the paint and do it themselves on one of the lines.. It could be 30,000 or more orders and then they know exactly how many to fulfill. Once it is done, they switch it back to whatever color it was before.. It would be less than half the price by the way if done this way if you consider the deal GM will get in a discount buying so much paint in bulk and the cost of painting will be no different than it is normally which is already factored in to the cost of the car.....
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Old 08-16-2008, 11:03 PM   #37
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I just have a question and it may be a stupid one but why does it have to be Valspar paint? I understand that what was used on the concept/Bumblebee cars but do you really think the general public will know that. I'm sure that PPG or DuPont can match it or come so close that knowone will know the difference. I'm thinking that could be an option. But I'm still keeping mine black with the 68 style bumblebee stripe. I will be removing the GM chicklet and replacing it with a similar sized Autobot logo. Just to keep mine unique.
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I just have a question and it may be a stupid one but why does it have to be Valspar paint? I understand that what was used on the concept/Bumblebee cars but do you really think the general public will know that. I'm sure that PPG or DuPont can match it or come so close that knowone will know the difference. I'm thinking that could be an option. But I'm still keeping mine black with the 68 style bumblebee stripe. I will be removing the GM chicklet and replacing it with a similar sized Autobot logo. Just to keep mine unique.
I've said all along if they could match it, then great, even better since it would be cheaper overall. However using the original paint is better...
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How many commenters have seen bumblebee in person? Both inside under lights and outside under sun?

That cannot be easily matched. It cannot be duplicated for $3000-$4000.

If you want a bumblebee look alike, win the contest or order velocity yellow with cyber gray stripes and call it a day.
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How many commenters have seen bumblebee in person? Both inside under lights and outside under sun?

That cannot be easily matched. It cannot be duplicated for $3000-$4000.

If you want a bumblebee look alike, win the contest or order velocity yellow with cyber gray stripes and call it a day.
The paint does cost around $3,000 to $4,000 and GM could get it for less. Painting the car would be no different than painting with any other color..
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The paint does cost around $3,000 to $4,000 and GM could get it for less. Painting the car would be no different than painting with any other color..
Wrong... unlike jewel tints and pure colors, the bumble bee color is a metallic pearlescent ("candy") color. It will require AT LEAST 2 curing periods, one in between base color and the metallic, and then another between the base/metallic and the candy. You can't do that on a production line. SO in order for GM to do this they need to circumvent the entire production process at the paint booth. Anytime you go outside the process in a manufacturing plant you accrue cost and it ISN'T cheap.

The bumble bee paint job just isn't going to happen from the factory. If your willing to drop the dough on it find a reputable shop, fork over your wallet and car, and prepare for a good month or two downtime.

Now decals, maybe a special steering wheel cap or center caps on the wheels, heck even a numbered badge or custom stripe color I can see. BUT NOT a complicated expensive paint job.
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I love the bumblebee look but no way am I paying $4k extra for paint.

I'm hoping the rally yellow is more yellow-orange than lemon yellow. Some photos make it look really good.
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I love the bumblebee look but no way am I paying $4k extra for paint.

I'm hoping the rally yellow is more yellow-orange than lemon yellow. Some photos make it look really good.
The Cobalt is available in Rally Yellow now. I expect it is the same color.
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Hmm thats a bit lemony for me, guess back to blue.
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I do not want a "transformers" car. I just want the paint job. Having Autobot symbols anywhere on the car 10 years from now will look bad/outdated/dorky/"trying too hard". I'll pay a max of $2000 for the paint, just as long as its professional.
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I do not want a "transformers" car. I just want the paint job. Having Autobot symbols anywhere on the car 10 years from now will look bad/outdated/dorky/"trying too hard". I'll pay a max of $2000 for the paint, just as long as its professional.
I don't think a professional paint job for $2000 is realistic. I think I read somewhere that the Bumblebee paint was a 3 stage system. If that were done on the assembly line, it would mean it would cost a lot more than that because of the extra equipment it would take to add another stage.
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We have no immediate plans to offer a Bumblebee Package --

There will be three cars specially painted (not at the plant) to fulfill the Transformers Contest.

Ladies and Gentlemen -- the cost of the Bumblebee paint alone approaches what some of you would be willing to pay....that does not include any prep or the painting itself -- or cleanup --
Bad move Scott.
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I'd buy it, not immediatly, unless it came on the car.
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The Yellow paint.

OK every. I know that every one here wants the Bumblebee paint job on there Camaro. When fbodfather said it would be very expensive he was right. The camaro that was in the movie was constructed by Saleen. The body mold placed over a Pontiac GTO frame. The Paint was also done in-house as well. Every one keeps saying that the paint is Valspar sunrise, but it is not. It is a paint called Sunflair from saleen used on the S5S Raptor. The car is around 200K and the paint job is around 17-25K sorry guys.
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