Does anyone have an L99 1SS with Automatic Start?

[SamIyam]

The dealer told me that all SS's with Automatics (L99) have the automatic start... and then I have read on this site that you can get the automatic start for $100 extra...

So, what's ths story?

I'd liek to hear it from someone who actually has a 1SS with an L99 Automatic Transmission and AUTOMATIC START.

Anyone?

Thanks folks!

Sam

[Mr CLuTcH]

Hey, I have a SIM 1SS, it does not come with the autostart feature. I talked to my dealer which referred me over to GMPARTSDIRECT.com; you can get the autostart feature added for $100.00 dollars.

[Champion51]

No autostart on my 1SS Auto

[Spooker_Doodles]

Already got answered.

[Bert]

I think the early ones did not have it, but the later ones do -- so if you order one now, or if it is on the lot now, all automatic transmissions will have the remote start; I'm guessing the $100 is to add the remote start to one of the earlier ones that didn't have it

is that a good guess?

[Blade]

I thought the remote starter was part of the convenience package. And if you got a A6 with that package, you get the remote starter.

[Mr_Draco]

Originally Posted by SamIyam

The dealer told me that all SS's with Automatics (L99) have the automatic start... and then I have read on this site that you can get the automatic start for $100 extra...

So, what's ths story?

I'd liek to hear it from someone who actually has a 1SS with an L99 Automatic Transmission and AUTOMATIC START.

Anyone?

Thanks folks!

Sam

There is no such thing as automatic start....

Now if you're talking about remote start, then that is NOT available on the 1SS. It is part of the Convenience and Connectivity package which can NOT be purchased with the 1SS. Whoever told you you can get it for $100 extra is blowing smoke. You're only option is to go aftermarket if you want this.

[Camarofan69]

why cant it be not be purchased with the 1 ss? i have it on my 1 lt whats the difference?

[Mr_Draco]

Originally Posted by Camarofan69

why cant it be not be purchased with the 1 ss? i have it on my 1 lt whats the difference?

Only GM knows the real reason behind why it can't be added but it's been speculated that they think that the people who buy the 1SS could care less about the options and buy it because they want a SS, similar to how people who buy the LS buy it because they want a Camaro.

[Bert]

Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

There is no such thing as automatic start....

Now if you're talking about remote start, then that is NOT available on the 1SS. It is part of the Convenience and Connectivity package which can NOT be purchased with the 1SS. Whoever told you you can get it for $100 extra is blowing smoke. You're only option is to go aftermarket if you want this.

that makes sense -- if you buy the automatic AND the C&C package you get the remote start, there are notes about that when you select the options in the on-line configuration tool

[HeavyD]

2SS with auto gets a remote start, standard equipment.
1SS with auto CANNOT get remote start, not available at all.
2LT with auto gets a remote start, standard equipment.
1LT with auto, WITHOUT C&C package, remote start not available.
1LT with auto, WITH C&C package, remote start included in C&C package
1LS with auto, CANNOT get remote start, not available.

The reason as to why GM opted to go this route with this feature is mind boggling. Remote starters are very popular and easy money. GM has never publicly released any information or reason as to why you can't add a remote start, or why the 1SS couldn't be ordered with the C&C package. They have been asked many times why, no official answer. As for the C&C package not being available in the 1SS, like mentioned before, it is by popular speculation that it was all marketing. People who could afford a 1SS should also be able to afford 2SS, and so if wanted only some of the features from a 2SS you would just have to completely upgrade to the 2SS. GM's way of trapping customers to spend more money and sell more stuff. As for adding remote starts to the unequipped cars, that is still on-going and really hasn't been answered either. Here is my speculation on that... In a 2SS, the remote key fob transmits the remote start signal. This is received by the Keyless Entry Module and an digital message is sent through the car's CAN network to the Body Controller. The BC receives the remote start message, and starts the remote sequence. In a 1SS, the keyfob has no remote start button. Either the 1SS's have a different Keyless entry module is not capable of receiving a remote start signal from a key fob or communicating a remote start message to the Body Controller, and/or, the Body Controller is not capable or not programmed to receiving a remote start message. This hasn't been answered either, because again, no one here really knows. This would be something to ask the GM engineers. So I believe to have a true "Factory" remote start added to a 1SS you would have to have the proper keyless entry module and the proper Body Controller with the proper programming, and of course, a remote start key fob. I think the keyless entry and body control module are the same in all the cars, but the programming is different. I believe the programming cannot be changed at the dealership level at least not at this time anyway because they don't have the proper software and/or training. This is why dealers are no help right now. As for the GM Accessories remote start, that is totally different altogether! What most dealers are referring to is the "Advanced Two-Way Paging" remote start. This is totally different keyfob again with a LCD display screen on that receives info from your car about it's status. To install this I believe it will be $500+ because as it is right now the Camaro doesn't have the capability to transmit information to the keyfob. The Camaro can only recieve from the factory keyfob. To get this 2-way remote start to work they would have to install a new keyless entry module that also transmits information back the keyfob. They would also have to program the car so the Body Controller will properly communicate with the new entry module by accepting the remote start message and communicate the information back again for the feedback display on your remote key fob. Because of the programming issues with getting a factory remote start to work, I believe the 2-way system is encountering the same problems. I think GM engineers can't get it to work as an add-on right now for some reason, maybe because of all the Bankruptcy restructuring, who knows? One last thing for the 2-way system, the 2-way remote start fob will be inaddition to the factory one, meaning you would have to carry around BOTH fobs because the actually key is still part of the factory key fob, this to me is stupid!
Even the factory remote start only runs for 10 mins. You can restart the sequence and add another 10 mins, but if the car is running for 2 mins and you add 10mins it will only run for 12 mins total then the key has to be used. In my area you need at least 15 mins to get any heat in the engine on a cold cold day. So I have to use the remote start twice to get the engine warm? This is also stupid! I really think GM dropped the ball on the whole remote start thing. With temps hitting freezing in Florida right now, I think even they would like that option down there too!!! I mean, seriously, in this day and age, in the year 2009-2010 you can spend $50000, (after taxes, Canadian) on a brand new, computer controlled car and you can't get a factory remote start? That's major BS!!!

[Bert]

Originally Posted by HeavyD

. . . Even the factory remote start only runs for 10 mins . . . . In my area you need at least 15 mins to get any heat in the engine on a cold cold day. So I have to use the remote start twice to get the engine warm? This is also stupid! I really think GM dropped the ball on the whole remote start thing. With temps hitting freezing in Florida right now, I think even they would like that option down there too!!! . . .

They were probably counting on Global Warming; this new Global Cooling trend was totally unexpected!

[SamIyam]

Thanks for the responses.

I guess I'll have to get in my car and start it all by myself.

Oh well.

Sam

[Nicholas]

Originally Posted by Bert

I think the early ones did not have it, but the later ones do -- so if you order one now, or if it is on the lot now, all automatic transmissions will have the remote start; I'm guessing the $100 is to add the remote start to one of the earlier ones that didn't have it

is that a good guess?

Nope I just got my 1SS new years and they done not come with Auto Start..you must add this feature for an additional $100.00

[Speed 1]

Hello,

I was told today that you need to order a new key with the remote option..... than the dealer can program it to your car.

Hope it's true.... I'll find out more info from the dealer tomorrow.

I was also told about $100.00 for add on.

[aldaran]

Originally Posted by Speed 1

Hello,

I was told today that you need to order a new key with the remote option..... than the dealer can program it to your car.

Hope it's true.... I'll find out more info from the dealer tomorrow.

I was also told about $100.00 for add on.

Good Luck with that. Unless things have changed, I don't believe its that easy.

[Speed 1]

Originally Posted by aldaran

Good Luck with that. Unless things have changed, I don't believe its that easy.

Just got a e-mail from the dealer... once he has my VIN #, he will order the part.

Lets see what happens!!

[Screaminz2002]

I asked today and according to gm you can add the remote start to the 1ss. It is 115.00 and 1.2 hours to install. The parts Guy looked it up by vin and GM parts to verify. You cannot install yourself and it was quoted at 250 out the door.

[Mr CLuTcH]

There is no such thing as automatic start....

Now if you're talking about remote start, then that is NOT available on the 1SS. It is part of the Convenience and Connectivity package which can NOT be purchased with the 1SS. Whoever told you you can get it for $100 extra is blowing smoke. You're only option is to go aftermarket if you want this.

Dude,...with all due respect,...what the hell are you all talking about? What do you mean you CANT have the remote start feature added to a 1SS? I have a 1SS, it didn't come equipped with the remote start feature, but I had it add later on by the dealer. A remote start feature alone is not limited to 2SS', it's a simple feature, you can even have it added via after-market. You mean to tell me, the after market can add a remote start to a 1SS but your dealer can't? That makes no sense, especially since my SS has it. Note: I had it added by my Chevy dealer a month and 1/2 after I got my car.

Now it needs to be ordered specifically for you car, you can't just go purchase it and walk out with it the same day. Your dealer has to order it, then when it comes in, you have to bring the car in and let them install it for you and replace your current key fob. Now I dont mean to sound mean or anything, but I just simply disagree with the assertion that a 1SS can't have this added.

[SamIyam]

Thanks Mr. Clutch... I was hoping to find a guy who had a 1SS with a remote start!

You-da-man!

And I'm gonna have my dealer do the same! Yeehaw!

Sam

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Dude,...with all due respect,...what the hell are you all talking about? What do you mean you CANT have the remote start feature added to a 1SS? I have a 1SS, it didn't come equipped with the remote start feature, but I had it add later on by the dealer. A remote start feature alone is not limited to 2SS', it's a simple feature, you can even have it added via after-market. You mean to tell me, the after market can add a remote start to a 1SS but your dealer can't? That makes no sense, especially since my SS has it. Note: I had it added by my Chevy dealer a month and 1/2 after I got my car.

Now it needs to be ordered specifically for you car, you can't just go purchase it and walk out with it the same day. Your dealer has to order it, then when it comes in, you have to bring the car in and let them install it for you and replace your current key fob. Now I dont mean to sound mean or anything, but I just simply disagree with the assertion that a 1SS can't have this added.

He meant you cannot order your car from the factory with it.

[justincase_2008]

such bs a 1 ss can remote start call onstar say u lost ur key they will unlock it and start it. its just another way for them to get u to get the 2ss. its all in the remote the code is already built in just not used.

[MyIBMssRS]

Originally Posted by justincase_2008

such bs a 1 ss can remote start call onstar say u lost ur key they will unlock it and start it. its just another way for them to get u to get the 2ss. its all in the remote the code is already built in just not used.

Since when can Onstar turn your engine on??? Even if they could you certainly couldn't drive it without a key.

[justincase_2008]

Originally Posted by MyIBMssRS

Since when can Onstar turn your engine on??? Even if they could you certainly couldn't drive it without a key.

They started my moms trailblazer before. Its a simple computer code built in the on-board computer. I would really like to see what parts they put in and why it takes 1.2 hours to do so.

[slick rick]

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63855

Now for the real kicker. The actual Remote Start module is already installed in the vehicle. It is in the dashboard! The Remote Start (P/N: 92213216) 'module' that I purchased is actually an extension wire harness and a plastic case for the module in the dashboard. These are needed to move the actual module from the dashboard to the top of the windshield, just right of the rear view mirror. The Tech told me that the module needs to be moved to extend the range of the transmitter. So you are paying $115.00 for a little wire harness, a small plastic case and four tye wraps.

IMPORTANT: The key fob (transmitter) is NOT included in the Remote Start kit (P/N: 92213216) even though a picture of the fob is shown when advertising the part, just read the fine print.