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Old 08-15-2008, 05:20 PM   #1
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Why no Hugger orange???

If you show a concept with a certain color you should always have that color available as an option...the challenger did it...heck i remember the eclipse even came out with the same color as their concept a few years ago....

when the vert is out will there be a color available just like the vert concept because that inferno orange is just not going to cut it....

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Old 08-15-2008, 06:24 PM   #2
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If you show a concept with a certain color you should always have that color available as an option...the challenger did it...heck i remember the eclipse even came out with the same color as their concept a few years ago....

when the vert is out will there be a color available just like the vert concept because that inferno orange is just not going to cut it....
Maybe when you can buy a vert you can get it in that color..... Until dec 09 you cant get a vert.... Something to think about....
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The concept convertible is not Hugger Orange.

Hugger Orange does not have any metallic in it..the concept has 'pearl' in it....and is also a showcar paint job ....

Inferno Orange is close.
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Didn't GM sell the name "Hugger Orange"?
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SS, can you explain why the delay on white? Thanks
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oh ok no problem...f-bod

i'm guessing it will cost about 10 thousand for that paint job...hmm inferno orange i might have to settle for lol...but i might consider getting that pearl orange custom painted...
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My daddy told me..."There's never a better paint job than the factory paint job."
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My daddy told me..."There's never a better paint job than the factory paint job."
does he work at a factory? orange peel sucks...



tho as for the Hugger Orange... maybe they are saving it for the Z28....

whatya think Scott? wouldnt that be a bad@$$ way to set the Z28 (when it comes out, not if) apart, to offer it with the Hugger Orange option, so everyone knows whos the big daddy on the block?
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does he work at a factory? orange peel sucks...
Owned a body shop for 40 years. Told me that in the 70's, it still holds true ...With a few rare exceptions. orange peel sucks...almost bad as fisheyes
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Old 08-15-2008, 07:20 PM   #11
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Owned a body shop for 40 years. Told me that in the 70's, it still holds true ...With a few rare exceptions.
idk. like i said orange peel sucks, and 90% of vehicles coming off the line today come from the factory with it.
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Here's the point...Take 2 new identical cars, strip and repaint one, leave the other alone. Put both outside for 20 years. Factory paint wins.
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not necessarily. how much you spending on the paint? what type of paint you using? who's painting it?
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:18 PM   #14
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My question is, when I order my convertible, will GM offer the 'red line' wheels to go with it.
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:23 PM   #15
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Factory paint jobs are usually (if not always) baked on at about 450 degrees. Most body shops that I have been in don't even have the ability to do that. I would guess that's supposed to make them more durable.

But, I have seen good quality paint jobs last many years and I have seen many factory paint jobs go bad in just a few years. Seems like I remember S-10s and dodge neons in the 90's were notorious for bad factory paint jobs.
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Your choice...All 3.
A good modern paint booth can bake, but it tends to melt plastic parts on the car. I didn't think I'd be opening a can-o-worms here. You guys go get your brand new cars repainted. I'll stick with the factory paint thank you very much. Maybe we can compare paint jobs at the 2030 Indy get-together
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Here's the point...Take 2 new identical cars, strip and repaint one, leave the other alone. Put both outside for 20 years. Factory paint wins.
It all depends on the shop and how much you pay for it. There are some really great high quality applications, and some that are not so much.
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does he work at a factory? orange peel sucks...



tho as for the Hugger Orange... maybe they are saving it for the Z28....

whatya think Scott? wouldnt that be a bad@$$ way to set the Z28 (when it comes out, not if) apart, to offer it with the Hugger Orange option, so everyone knows whos the big daddy on the block?
Orange peel sucks, but you get it at aftermarket (body) shops too. The biggest difference is, bodyshops aren't affraid (I should say aren't burdened with) to apply thick coats of color/tricoat/clearcoat because all factory jobs apply the least amount of material as possible to save money on the paint. I've seen may cars (GM included) that had base coats so thin you could see the e-coat through the color, and it was difficult, if not impossible, to blend an entire side of a car in order to obtain a reasonalble color match. It sucked because that was more of the OEM paint we had to get into, which meant more of the car we had to pull apart and put back together. In addition, because that clearcoat is so thick, it is a lot more forgiving to polishing the fisheyes, nibs, and orange peel out without sacrificing UV protection for the basecoat (the actual color of the paint underneith.)

I personally would prefer having OEM paint on my car with a bit of orange peel than a flat surface with aftermarket paint. It's still not as good, IMHO. (I'd been in the auto industry for ten years, at a dealership and bodyshop, hence my observations.)

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Factory paint jobs are usually (if not always) baked on at about 450 degrees. Most body shops that I have been in don't even have the ability to do that. I would guess that's supposed to make them more durable.

But, I have seen good quality paint jobs last many years and I have seen many factory paint jobs go bad in just a few years. Seems like I remember S-10s and dodge neons in the 90's were notorious for bad factory paint jobs.
True. The most, most aftermarket shops will bake to, SAFELY, is like 150*. There are factory electronics and trim pieces that would get damaged otherwise. When you think about it, the factory paints cars and parts unassembled, unlike when you take your car to an autobody shop for repairs.
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Risk of metal oxidation is higher in repaint too. bare untreated Metal rusts almost immediately believe it or not.
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I can do a much better looking paint job in my driveway than some of the factory paint jobs. Sure...it takes longer and if I charged someone to do it to there car, it would be expensive because its labor intensive. If its a new car, with no body damage ,there shouldn't be any bare metal exposed unless you sanded to much. All you have to do is smooth out the factory orange peel, not sand down to metal.
But, if you repaint it, you will probably void and warranty on the exterior surfaces. A certain amount of Orange Peel is acceptable on a factory paint job because 90% of the buyers don't even know what it is or what it looks like. All they care about is shiny and no dents. And if you think about it, its a pretty good paint job considering the amount of time it took to apply it.
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I can do a much better looking paint job in my driveway than some of the factory paint jobs. Sure...it takes longer and if I charged someone to do it to there car, it would be expensive because its labor intensive. If its a new car, with no body damage ,there shouldn't be any bare metal exposed unless you sanded to much. All you have to do is smooth out the factory orange peel, not sand down to metal.
But, if you repaint it, you will probably void and warranty on the exterior surfaces. A certain amount of Orange Peel is acceptable on a factory paint job because 90% of the buyers don't even know what it is or what it looks like. All they care about is shiny and no dents. And if you think about it, its a pretty good paint job considering the amount of time it took to apply it.
No paint booth=dirt in paint. Even on a new car, not sanding thru, (good luck with that)now you have a paint thickness issue. Paint has to expand and contract, A thick paint job will delaminate faster. We haven't even gotten to filler issues yet. Any GM plant painters want to chime in on this subject?
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SS, can you explain why the delay on white? Thanks


I also want to know why no white until July 09 ???

I really want Bumblebee yellow because rally yellow is TOO BRIGHT.

My second choices are either Inferno or white. I wish the orange was a little brighter.

So white is maybe my first choice now, but I want to buy a loaded SS manual end of may 09.
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I think the leading speculation on the white delay is that it is due to the Indy 500. We're guessing the Camaro will be the 09 pace car and it will be painted white (with orange stripes?) and so offering white in the summer after the race makes for a sort of special edition.
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